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US Airways Loses Gucci Bag Worth 50k  
User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20307 times:

Imagine the look on the US Airways baggage consultant when this was reported lost:

http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/09/2...airline-loses-gucci-bag-worth-50k/

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/airl...cci_threads_lB4in8DZ8SeDEgT8FJvvcP

Suprised that Gucci doesn't have a private jet!

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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20272 times:

Whoever checks in such a valuable bag at an airport must be naive or stupid.   

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[Edited 2010-09-25 22:53:50]


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13616 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20271 times:
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Read the Contract of Carriage. It's only worth $2500.  


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20243 times:
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Well that's just too bad....

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 2):
Read the Contract of Carriage. It's only worth $2500.  

Exactly. My Walmart bag is worth just as much as a Gucci bag in the eyes of the airline



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User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20233 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Thread starter):
Suprised that Gucci doesn't have a private jet!

He himself may not have one, however, Gucci is owned by Pinault-Printemps-Redoute (French company). It is possible they have one, and it was not available.



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20211 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Thread starter):
Suprised that Gucci doesn't have a private jet!

I don't know how often he flies anywhere, so it may not be worthwhile buying one, but a charter maybe.
I am not sure of the wisdom of packing irreplaceable objects in checked luggage. I wonder if he declared a higher value when checking-in and paid for extra insurance.


User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 20181 times:

And I thought it was bad when I had a $400 jacket stolen out of my checked bag...

I hope they figure out where his baggage is.


User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19959 times:

I have no sympathy for any idiot who has $50,000 worth of valuables in checked luggage. Gucci knew the risk when he checked the bag.

User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19938 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 7):
I have no sympathy for any idiot who has $50,000 worth of valuables in checked luggage. Gucci knew the risk when he checked the bag.

Totally agree. Some people when they travel seam to leave their brains at home.


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15749 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19926 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 2):
It's only worth $2500.

It will cost them a lot more than that in publicity. United basically broke the world's most valuable guitar a while back.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19908 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 2):
Read the Contract of Carriage. It's only worth $2500.

hahahahahaha. Besides you can get a knock off in Shenzhen or somewhere for like 50 bucks....


User currently offlineEnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19905 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 1):
Whoever checks in such a valuable bag at an airport must be naive or stupid.   

Exactly. Why would the guy trust airline workers to properly handle his bag and not loose it? You can't trust baggage handlers to handle baggage.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 19857 times:

Maybe this is snobbish of me, but why fly US Airways Madrid-DC? Could've flown nonstop on United or flown any number of European airlines with better service than US Airways.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5296 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 19771 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 1):
Whoever checks in such a valuable bag at an airport must be naive or stupid.

My thoughts exactly. Anything that valuable should not be checked. Period.



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User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 19694 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 14):
Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 1):
Whoever checks in such a valuable bag at an airport must be naive or stupid.

My thoughts exactly. Anything that valuable should not be checked. Period.

How else should in travel. Reality is THE passenger knowS the airlines libaility limit and should have TRAVEL INSURANCE.

I am sure the pax had insurance. What's all the fuss?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19807 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19620 times:

Question: if you are going to check highly valuable materials, is there a way to purchase extra insurance for those materials? I know that if you are shipping something you can purchase insurance for expensive items.

User currently offlineCysafan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19394 times:

Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 12):
Exactly. Why would the guy trust airline workers to properly handle his bag and not loose it? You can't trust baggage handlers to handle baggage.

Exactly.. Never a judge a book by its cover. No matter how much you pay for your class of service on an airliner, never be so confident. Baggage handlers are random people. They have good and bad in any country any airport especially major ones where demand for flights are high! I guess he checked in that bag since he is not flying Y Class.


User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19361 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Question: if you are going to check highly valuable materials, is there a way to purchase extra insurance for those materials?

You can buy coverage from the airlines for excess valuation for your bags, but it only covers up to $5,000 and will still exclude many items like jewelry and electronics. The most a travel insurance policy will normally cover is $2,500. Credit card coverage is much less. Your only choice is to have an insurance policy for those items.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18826 times:

I have sympathy for this guy. He obviously had a lot of things to carry with him on his trip and checking them in was the only option due to the amount of luggage he had.

KH



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 18325 times:

First of all, no one should have their checked baggage or any their contents stolen no matter the location or airline. Per the article, it was the contents, of historical and family history materials, that made the alleged value.

While some are wanting to blame US or the destination bag handling in the USA for this loss, it also could have occured in MAD. One has to wonder if during the mandated bag screening, the screeners spot for 'hot' bags, that is ones loaded with valuable contents that may be easy to steal and move and tip off others to steal from. That means there is bad management and security for such employees and areas are also factors. Perhaps for such areas they need to change security so employees have to go through metal detectors, change clothes, when the leave any such secure areas. They need to have strict controls as to those work in those areas, with through and frequent financial checks of employees, strict management, pay them a decent amount to discourage the need to steal and strong punishment for anyone caught.


User currently offlineUSAirways787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 18000 times:

Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 12):

Yes because all of us baggage handlers are thieves and crooks with no brains. I can tell you for a fact not all of us steal as a matter of fact my ramp crew have never even so much as looked at bags in that manner. How many of us thieving baggage handlers are nice enough to pick your clothes off the ramp and put them bag in the bag and even zip it up for you because tsa neglected too. Not many but we always do. Maybe you should consider your opinion of people before you blast your uneducated mouth about things in which you have no idea what your talking about.



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User currently offlineq120 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 17644 times:

I cant believe that some people are saying that Gucci is stupid for checking in his bag. For all it matters he could have packed $100,000 worth of items in his bag. The guy drops a load of cash to fly first class and he should be considered an important client for US Airways. This guy has connections to other very rich people and thus I am shocked that he even flew with US Airways in the first place. The airline needs to find this bag, it should be a priority. Yes every lost bag should be a priority but its all down to the dollar bill, who's more valuable to the airline in the long run. I would laugh if US Airways replaced everything with counterfeit goods.   


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User currently offlineSlinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 17498 times:

Reading all this I'm incredulous at the comments, perhaps the guy had a meeting in Madrid en route to the US, you don't know anything other a couple of short news articles, perhaps his bag was to big too take onboard, perhaps lots of things, perhaps it was highly insured - nor do I subscribe to the view that baggage thieves, TSA agents or whoever are all thieves and that's what we should accept when travelling. What a place the world has come ti.

User currently offlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 17092 times:

Quoting USAirways787 (Reply 21):
Yes because all of us baggage handlers are thieves and crooks with no brains. I can tell you for a fact not all of us steal as a matter of fact my ramp crew have never even so much as looked at bags in that manner. How many of us thieving baggage handlers are nice enough to pick your clothes off the ramp and put them bag in the bag and even zip it up for you because tsa neglected too. Not many but we always do. Maybe you should consider your opinion of people before you blast your uneducated mouth about things in which you have no idea what your talking about.

Yeah. I agree. I know the feeling very well and it puts all of us in a bad light.
But we catch all the hell because we handle the baggage. You have to know if it was mainline employees or contracted employees. Contracted employees come and go. At least M/L employees care and give a damn about making sure your bag gets sent to the right city. And there are some bad apples there as well. Don't get me wrong and I'm not blaming contracted employees, but some of these outfits don't pay a real great wage.

And in some airports, you better worry about the TSA stealing your stuff instead of us rampers.
There's plenty of proof of that..............

This will be bad PR. UA had plenty of that during the guitar incident.



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User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 853 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 17084 times:

I have a coworker who explains this to customers. "A gucci bag is what you take to a slumber party. A Walmart bag is what you take on a trip". There are plenty of directions the blame can be taken on this thread. But in the end a little common sense should have been used. The arrogant presumption some people have that just because its a gucci bag it will be treated better than any other bag is beyond compare. Baggage handlers see so many bags at any given time that most dont even notice its a gucci. There are some bad seeds in every work place so this bag could have been nabbed in any location. Now could it have been carried on board? Was it small enough to do so? Funny how some want to blame the airline, and some are blaming the customer. I say there is plenty of blame to go around to everyone involved, but again it still falls to the customer, to use some common sense.
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25 Tigerguy : He went to PHL first, and US has one of the few nonstops to PHL. It's also the cheapest nonstop. It's even the cheapest commercial option of the lot,
26 lightsaber : If it wasn't insured... ghad... Yes, but I do not know how. My company insures my luggage for up to $50k. But here is the deal, I often carry up to $
27 0NEWAIR0 : I think all of those first class flyers dropping big bucks for meetings, vacations, packing up their expensive suits or what-have-you's know very wel
28 frmrCapCadet : Why isn't there a procedure for checking very valualbe or fragile objects? I am sure airliner accountants could come up with a cost structure in an af
29 srbmod : Such a thing is already in place to an extent. Most airlines will allow you to declare a higher value on your checked bag for a fee ($10-50 depending
30 JBirdAV8r : That's why my luggage consists of two brands: Travelpro and eBags. Dependable, rugged, but ultimately disposable. I chuckle when I see people running
31 jeffrey1970 : I agree that Usairways should find his bag. So should the TSA, and who ever handled his bag in Madrid. However, what if he was a passenger who paid f
32 q120 : If he was a passenger who paid an economy fare for his ticket, and it still had $50,000 worth of items in the bag. That's a good question. I'm going
33 art : I'm astonished that someone who had irreplaceable historic photos did not carry them in hand baggage. Insuring them would not make it possible to repl
34 777way : I have no sympathy for people who think its ok for a bag to cost 50K, excluding its contents.
35 Post contains images KELPkid : Maybe Gucci should hire out a Canadian country band and have them make a song called "Because USAirways loses valuable bags" I wonder if the Gucci com
36 heathrow : Theese people should not be allowed to travel. It's their own fault.
37 Aviacsa737 : Look, by no means am i a friend of US airways or a defender of the horrible service of US carriers, however, if you are stupid enough to spek 50K on a
38 757luver : This wouldn't be the first time someone would have taken a "to big" bag in the cabin. That was one of my thoughts, was it even put on the plane when
39 Post contains images OA412 : I see. So he is only an important client, and his bag and contents are only worth retrieving if he's a rich person? Yeah that's the best way to look
40 fsnuffer : It is sad that the perception is you cannot check anything of value on the airlines for fear of theft. It is really sad that airlines mitigate this th
41 Post contains images Aviacsa737 : Dont you know? Integrity is too expensive for airlines to have, and certainly management. It costs just too much to give the customer what you promis
42 Woof : Wow, what a nice lot we have on here... "no sympathy" "deserved to lose it" "serves him right" Do we know it wasn't insured for its full value? Even s
43 CrimsonNL : Does it even matter how much it's worth? Whether it's a 5 dollar Wal-Mart bag filled with newspapers, or a designer bag with 50.000 dollar content, th
44 Post contains images IBOAviator : Oh well--- he lost his bag- it's air travel and that's the reality of it. A lot of people want to immediately place blame on Gucci because obviously h
45 Post contains images yodobashi : It certainly would be .... BUT the bag wasn't worth £50K, the contents were Agree wholeheartedly .... many of the comments here smack of pure jealou
46 Post contains images Aviacsa737 : And why shouldnt they? Its not like they'll have a problem replacing it. I think youll find a hard time finding anyone with sympathy for the richin t
47 IBOAviator : You hit the nail square on the head! Exactly right. Although it is odd that a man of such wealth would choose to fly on a civilian carrier, no one kn
48 JBirdAV8r : Not really. Not about bashing the rich...blaming the irresponsible. Yes, US Airways bears the brunt of the blame. But there are better ways to ship $
49 KaiGywer : I don't work for mainline, and I actually DO give a damn about my passengers and bags...
50 b707forever : US Air @ Philly are notorious for pilfering from luggage. I remember seeing, not too long ago, an article about it. Very sad news if all those family
51 ediCHC : These comments are of course assuming the customer had a choice? Is there a possibility that the carrier insisted the bags be checked? How else do an
52 Post contains images EA CO AS : Here's a thought - DON'T SEND THEM ON A COMMERCIAL FLIGHT. Hire a private jet, have your items sent via a shipping company and fully insured, etc. Th
53 Post contains images Aviacsa737 : Yeah, heaven forbid an airline, you know, actually TRY to get a passengers belongings to the same destination. Shame on the passenger for thinking an
54 EA CO AS : No, I personally think there's no excuse for airlines losing or damaging a customer's checked items. Having said that, the reality is that it DOES ha
55 usflyer msp : He wanted to fly into DCA not IAD because it is much closer to Capitol Hill and he was on a tight schedule. Bizzarely, for some reason, US is popular
56 LTBEWR : Just because you are rich and famous, doesn't mean you won't be looking for the cheapest fare. Perhaps US offers for 1st Class at a cheaper fare vs.
57 JBirdAV8r : Bingo. You wouldn't take this on the NYC Subway, you shouldn't take it on an airline either.
58 jeffrey1970 : [quote=q120,reply=32]f he was a passenger who paid an economy fare for his ticket, and it still had $50,000 worth of items in the bag. That's a good q
59 EnviroTO : My statement was place tongue firmly in cheek. I thought the general consensus that somehow Gucci is at fault for checking his luggage was misguided.
60 Quadagon : Personally, I fully trust the airlines to carry anything that I take with me on my trip (since no airlines has lost my bags...yet) However I would nev
61 ediCHC : Nope that is a simple cop out. You 'take' bags off the pax you take responsibility. Besides they were not being 'sent' they were accompanying the pas
62 stasisLAX : First issue, avoid PHL at all costs. US is notorious for having gang members or people involved with Philadelphia area criminal gangs working as bagg
63 Quokka : There seems to be a lot of people jumping to the conclusion that the bag has been stolen. It is just possible that it ended up on the wrong flight and
64 Post contains links and images Superfly : I'm with you on that. i bet these are teh same people that gripe about passengers and their carry on bags. Next time, he should use the company car.
65 Maverick623 : Wow.... The attitude of most of you here is appalling. How can you seriously wish that someone lose their luggage, just because they have expensive st
66 Post contains images wn676 : When was the last time you were in a US cargo bin? The worst tags I've ever seen were hardly "gang related" (though I guess that depends on your defi
67 Atlwest1 : Sounds like us needs to learn how to handle bags from FL. Thats one thing FL beats EVERYBODY on.
68 stasisLAX : Then that's good news - I no longer work in Philadelphia (worked with USPS/PI on a nearly daily basis from 1988 to 2006) and no longer deal with the
69 Post contains images yodobashi : So what's he going to do, buy another bag that his grandfather made for his mother, buy some new family photo's .... ? Granted, I wouldn't check anyt
70 EA CO AS : Not at all. You asked how he was supposed to take these on a commercial flight, and I pointed out that it simply did not HAVE to be taken on a commer
71 EDICHC : And you know that this passenger did not have to have these items with him, do enlighten me as to how you know this? As a prominent businessman it is
72 Geo772 : A simple rule of checked baggage I have always followed is 'can I be without the contents'. I always have a change of clothes in carryon, and anything
73 akelley728 : Does anyone know if Gucci's bags were recovered?
74 Post contains images stasisLAX : The bags weren't lost......
75 EA CO AS : Where is it written that he couldn't have found alternate means of travel though? You're making the assumption that by God, the only way he was able
76 Post contains links ha763 : Actually, the answer is in the articles in the OP (and all the others found online). Both articles mention that the items were going to be used for a
77 Aviacsa737 : Have you seen the misery rich people have cause to the world by destroying the economy? Havr you seen how rediculous it is when they have 50K in a ba
78 airportugal310 : The thread has veered off-topic and is not generating any new information related to the original topic. Any posts added after the thread lock will be
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