I don't know how often he flies anywhere, so it may not be worthwhile buying one, but a charter maybe.
I am not sure of the wisdom of packing irreplaceable objects in checked luggage. I wonder if he declared a higher value when checking-in and paid for extra insurance.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 22965 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 20558 times:
Question: if you are going to check highly valuable materials, is there a way to purchase extra insurance for those materials? I know that if you are shipping something you can purchase insurance for expensive items.
Cysafan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20332 times:
Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 12): Exactly. Why would the guy trust airline workers to properly handle his bag and not loose it? You can't trust baggage handlers to handle baggage.
Exactly.. Never a judge a book by its cover. No matter how much you pay for your class of service on an airliner, never be so confident. Baggage handlers are random people. They have good and bad in any country any airport especially major ones where demand for flights are high! I guess he checked in that bag since he is not flying Y Class.
ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3735 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20299 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16): Question: if you are going to check highly valuable materials, is there a way to purchase extra insurance for those materials?
You can buy coverage from the airlines for excess valuation for your bags, but it only covers up to $5,000 and will still exclude many items like jewelry and electronics. The most a travel insurance policy will normally cover is $2,500. Credit card coverage is much less. Your only choice is to have an insurance policy for those items.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13765 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19263 times:
First of all, no one should have their checked baggage or any their contents stolen no matter the location or airline. Per the article, it was the contents, of historical and family history materials, that made the alleged value.
While some are wanting to blame US or the destination bag handling in the USA for this loss, it also could have occured in MAD. One has to wonder if during the mandated bag screening, the screeners spot for 'hot' bags, that is ones loaded with valuable contents that may be easy to steal and move and tip off others to steal from. That means there is bad management and security for such employees and areas are also factors. Perhaps for such areas they need to change security so employees have to go through metal detectors, change clothes, when the leave any such secure areas. They need to have strict controls as to those work in those areas, with through and frequent financial checks of employees, strict management, pay them a decent amount to discourage the need to steal and strong punishment for anyone caught.
Yes because all of us baggage handlers are thieves and crooks with no brains. I can tell you for a fact not all of us steal as a matter of fact my ramp crew have never even so much as looked at bags in that manner. How many of us thieving baggage handlers are nice enough to pick your clothes off the ramp and put them bag in the bag and even zip it up for you because tsa neglected too. Not many but we always do. Maybe you should consider your opinion of people before you blast your uneducated mouth about things in which you have no idea what your talking about.
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q120 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18582 times:
I cant believe that some people are saying that Gucci is stupid for checking in his bag. For all it matters he could have packed $100,000 worth of items in his bag. The guy drops a load of cash to fly first class and he should be considered an important client for US Airways. This guy has connections to other very rich people and thus I am shocked that he even flew with US Airways in the first place. The airline needs to find this bag, it should be a priority. Yes every lost bag should be a priority but its all down to the dollar bill, who's more valuable to the airline in the long run. I would laugh if US Airways replaced everything with counterfeit goods.
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Slinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18436 times:
Reading all this I'm incredulous at the comments, perhaps the guy had a meeting in Madrid en route to the US, you don't know anything other a couple of short news articles, perhaps his bag was to big too take onboard, perhaps lots of things, perhaps it was highly insured - nor do I subscribe to the view that baggage thieves, TSA agents or whoever are all thieves and that's what we should accept when travelling. What a place the world has come ti.
T5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18030 times:
Quoting USAirways787 (Reply 21): Yes because all of us baggage handlers are thieves and crooks with no brains. I can tell you for a fact not all of us steal as a matter of fact my ramp crew have never even so much as looked at bags in that manner. How many of us thieving baggage handlers are nice enough to pick your clothes off the ramp and put them bag in the bag and even zip it up for you because tsa neglected too. Not many but we always do. Maybe you should consider your opinion of people before you blast your uneducated mouth about things in which you have no idea what your talking about.
Yeah. I agree. I know the feeling very well and it puts all of us in a bad light.
But we catch all the hell because we handle the baggage. You have to know if it was mainline employees or contracted employees. Contracted employees come and go. At least M/L employees care and give a damn about making sure your bag gets sent to the right city. And there are some bad apples there as well. Don't get me wrong and I'm not blaming contracted employees, but some of these outfits don't pay a real great wage.
And in some airports, you better worry about the TSA stealing your stuff instead of us rampers.
There's plenty of proof of that..............
This will be bad PR. UA had plenty of that during the guitar incident.
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ABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 883 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18022 times:
I have a coworker who explains this to customers. "A gucci bag is what you take to a slumber party. A Walmart bag is what you take on a trip". There are plenty of directions the blame can be taken on this thread. But in the end a little common sense should have been used. The arrogant presumption some people have that just because its a gucci bag it will be treated better than any other bag is beyond compare. Baggage handlers see so many bags at any given time that most dont even notice its a gucci. There are some bad seeds in every work place so this bag could have been nabbed in any location. Now could it have been carried on board? Was it small enough to do so? Funny how some want to blame the airline, and some are blaming the customer. I say there is plenty of blame to go around to everyone involved, but again it still falls to the customer, to use some common sense.
A line is evidence that other people exist.
: He went to PHL first, and US has one of the few nonstops to PHL. It's also the cheapest nonstop. It's even the cheapest commercial option of the lot,
: If it wasn't insured... ghad... Yes, but I do not know how. My company insures my luggage for up to $50k. But here is the deal, I often carry up to $
: I think all of those first class flyers dropping big bucks for meetings, vacations, packing up their expensive suits or what-have-you's know very wel
: Why isn't there a procedure for checking very valualbe or fragile objects? I am sure airliner accountants could come up with a cost structure in an af
: Such a thing is already in place to an extent. Most airlines will allow you to declare a higher value on your checked bag for a fee ($10-50 depending
: That's why my luggage consists of two brands: Travelpro and eBags. Dependable, rugged, but ultimately disposable. I chuckle when I see people running
: I agree that Usairways should find his bag. So should the TSA, and who ever handled his bag in Madrid. However, what if he was a passenger who paid f
: If he was a passenger who paid an economy fare for his ticket, and it still had $50,000 worth of items in the bag. That's a good question. I'm going
: I'm astonished that someone who had irreplaceable historic photos did not carry them in hand baggage. Insuring them would not make it possible to repl
: I have no sympathy for people who think its ok for a bag to cost 50K, excluding its contents.
: Maybe Gucci should hire out a Canadian country band and have them make a song called "Because USAirways loses valuable bags" I wonder if the Gucci com
: Theese people should not be allowed to travel. It's their own fault.
: Look, by no means am i a friend of US airways or a defender of the horrible service of US carriers, however, if you are stupid enough to spek 50K on a
: This wouldn't be the first time someone would have taken a "to big" bag in the cabin. That was one of my thoughts, was it even put on the plane when
: I see. So he is only an important client, and his bag and contents are only worth retrieving if he's a rich person? Yeah that's the best way to look
: It is sad that the perception is you cannot check anything of value on the airlines for fear of theft. It is really sad that airlines mitigate this th
: Dont you know? Integrity is too expensive for airlines to have, and certainly management. It costs just too much to give the customer what you promis
: Wow, what a nice lot we have on here... "no sympathy" "deserved to lose it" "serves him right" Do we know it wasn't insured for its full value? Even s
: Does it even matter how much it's worth? Whether it's a 5 dollar Wal-Mart bag filled with newspapers, or a designer bag with 50.000 dollar content, th
: Oh well--- he lost his bag- it's air travel and that's the reality of it. A lot of people want to immediately place blame on Gucci because obviously h
: It certainly would be .... BUT the bag wasn't worth £50K, the contents were Agree wholeheartedly .... many of the comments here smack of pure jealou
: And why shouldnt they? Its not like they'll have a problem replacing it. I think youll find a hard time finding anyone with sympathy for the richin t
: You hit the nail square on the head! Exactly right. Although it is odd that a man of such wealth would choose to fly on a civilian carrier, no one kn
: Not really. Not about bashing the rich...blaming the irresponsible. Yes, US Airways bears the brunt of the blame. But there are better ways to ship $
: I don't work for mainline, and I actually DO give a damn about my passengers and bags...
: US Air @ Philly are notorious for pilfering from luggage. I remember seeing, not too long ago, an article about it. Very sad news if all those family
: These comments are of course assuming the customer had a choice? Is there a possibility that the carrier insisted the bags be checked? How else do an
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: Here's a thought - DON'T SEND THEM ON A COMMERCIAL FLIGHT. Hire a private jet, have your items sent via a shipping company and fully insured, etc. Th
: Yeah, heaven forbid an airline, you know, actually TRY to get a passengers belongings to the same destination. Shame on the passenger for thinking an
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: No, I personally think there's no excuse for airlines losing or damaging a customer's checked items. Having said that, the reality is that it DOES ha
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: He wanted to fly into DCA not IAD because it is much closer to Capitol Hill and he was on a tight schedule. Bizzarely, for some reason, US is popular
: Just because you are rich and famous, doesn't mean you won't be looking for the cheapest fare. Perhaps US offers for 1st Class at a cheaper fare vs.
: Bingo. You wouldn't take this on the NYC Subway, you shouldn't take it on an airline either.
: [quote=q120,reply=32]f he was a passenger who paid an economy fare for his ticket, and it still had $50,000 worth of items in the bag. That's a good q
: My statement was place tongue firmly in cheek. I thought the general consensus that somehow Gucci is at fault for checking his luggage was misguided.
: Personally, I fully trust the airlines to carry anything that I take with me on my trip (since no airlines has lost my bags...yet) However I would nev
: Nope that is a simple cop out. You 'take' bags off the pax you take responsibility. Besides they were not being 'sent' they were accompanying the pas
: First issue, avoid PHL at all costs. US is notorious for having gang members or people involved with Philadelphia area criminal gangs working as bagg
: There seems to be a lot of people jumping to the conclusion that the bag has been stolen. It is just possible that it ended up on the wrong flight and
: I'm with you on that. i bet these are teh same people that gripe about passengers and their carry on bags. Next time, he should use the company car.
: Wow.... The attitude of most of you here is appalling. How can you seriously wish that someone lose their luggage, just because they have expensive st
: When was the last time you were in a US cargo bin? The worst tags I've ever seen were hardly "gang related" (though I guess that depends on your defi
: Sounds like us needs to learn how to handle bags from FL. Thats one thing FL beats EVERYBODY on.
: Then that's good news - I no longer work in Philadelphia (worked with USPS/PI on a nearly daily basis from 1988 to 2006) and no longer deal with the
: So what's he going to do, buy another bag that his grandfather made for his mother, buy some new family photo's .... ? Granted, I wouldn't check anyt
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: Not at all. You asked how he was supposed to take these on a commercial flight, and I pointed out that it simply did not HAVE to be taken on a commer
: And you know that this passenger did not have to have these items with him, do enlighten me as to how you know this? As a prominent businessman it is
: A simple rule of checked baggage I have always followed is 'can I be without the contents'. I always have a change of clothes in carryon, and anything
: Does anyone know if Gucci's bags were recovered?