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BA288 747 Phoenix, Evac Update?  
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3195 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7054 times:

The 747 that they all evacuated at Phoenix because of smoke in the cabin, was there a final report published on this?


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User currently offlineKPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

I've not seen anything in the local paper although that isn't surprising.

I also checked the websites for the City of Phoenix which runs the airport and fire department at Sky Harbor. No press releases or reports that I could see publicly.

Would the FAA / NTSB / BAA do an investigation of this? Or does this stay in the carrier or local airport?

Cheers,
Cory


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5692 times:

Here you go


http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/Factor201002.pdf

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...ng%20747-436,%20G-CIVB%2006-10.pdf


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User currently offlineindolikaa From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

quoting AAIB report:
An extensive engineering investigation after the event was not able to provide any explanation for the origin of the fumes.


A prank on the part of mischievous parties, perhaps?

To not find a cause after that kind of investigation is quite a statement.



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User currently offlineskyharborshome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

The report shows how serious this situation became. Most passengers do not know the difference in whether or not a door is armed. They think if you open a door in an emergency, you have a slide. This could have turned very ugly if the passengers further panicked and pushed towards a door that was opened without an inflated slide.

I also had not heard a fire extinguisher had been discharged. The report mentioned that the discharged retardant may have been confused as smoke but I think they missed the point. If any of us were in an aircraft and we see a fire extinguisher used, all of us would be heading towards an exit as we would perceive an active fire has been identified.

Several hindsight comments could be made on the actions taken but this seemed like a sudden event during push back that no one was prepared for and I am not sure how you train for that. I am not going to fault BA here but this is truly a puzzling event. We never expect an incident involving a fully operational aircraft to go unsolved. Assumptions are dangerous, I realize, but I think a reasonable assumption would be a maintenance worker or passenger accidentally did something and they are afraid to come forward. Other than that, to not have a cause or explanation causes all of us to be befuddled.



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User currently onlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3320 times:
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Quoting skyharborshome (Reply 4):
perceive an active fire has been identified.

?

Quoting skyharborshome (Reply 4):
sudden event during push back
Quoting skyharborshome (Reply 4):
passengers further panicked and pushed towards a door that was opened without an inflated slide

Maybe vie got my sequence of events wrong. I fly a lot both short haul and long haul a lot. Iirc the doors are armed and cross checked before push back? How come doors where opened after departure from the gate and no slide deployment?

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User currently offlinetymnbalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Many years ago a BA flight from IAH to LGW diverted to BWI because of fumes in the cabin. No emergency evac. The cause? Someone spilled nail polish.


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User currently offlinestarguy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 5):
Maybe vie got my sequence of events wrong. I fly a lot both short haul and long haul a lot. Iirc the doors are armed and cross checked before push back? How come doors where opened after departure from the gate and no slide deployment?

Sequence of events are.

Door to automatic
Pushback
Fumes/smoke present
Commander decides to return to stand and reconnect the jet bridge so command is given for doors to be set to 'Manual'.
In the time it takes to reconnect the tug, situation worsens in the cabin.
Panicked passenger then opens door.


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