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Delta's 77L Fleet On What Routes?  
User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14889 times:

I just saw an ad for Delta's lie-flat Business Elite seats. It said that you can find them on flights to London, Dubai, Johannesburg, and Sydney for now. So I was wondering what other routes are the 77L exclusively on, or are they just exclusive to SYD, DXB, and JNB? For example, I see that ATL-NRT today is a 77L but perhaps this is not used everyday.

Also is LHR an exclusively 767-400 station (the 764 subfleet with lie-flat seats to be exact)?

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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9310 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14885 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):

ATL-DXB D
ATL-JNB D
LAX-SYD D
DTW-HKG 5w

and then after that they fly DTW-PVG 1-2w some ATL-DTW, ATL-LAX, DTW-LAX, LAX-ATL

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):

Also is LHR an exclusively 767-400 station (the 764 subfleet with lie-flat seats to be exact)?

yes till ATL-LHR #2 starts, it will be a 763 as Delta will be out of lie-flat 400s till mods are done.



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User currently offlinegoldenstate From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 571 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14804 times:
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ATLNRT is daily 77L service.

Also, interesting that you should mention ATLLHR and 77L in the same thread because the 77Ls do end up on ATLLHR round trips now and then.

Side note: the first 77E will go for flat seat mod on Oct 1.


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1611 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14751 times:

The first two 747-400's have been sent for interior mods already--rumor says they will do two per month.


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User currently offlineDl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14637 times:

Where does delta use the 772ER? Hopefully the 763 will start the upgrade cycle soon to keep the LHR market strictly lie flat

User currently offlinemichman From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14521 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 3):
The first two 747-400's have been sent for interior mods already--rumor says they will do two per month.


Cool, I'm flying JFK-NRT in November. Maybe I'll get lucky.


User currently offlinenwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14316 times:

What is Delta's longest flight now? It used to be Atlanta - Mumbai, but from what I can see, Mumbai (BOM) is served all out of Amsterdam now

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5240 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14297 times:

Quoting nwafflyer (Reply 6):
What is Delta's longest flight now? It used to be Atlanta - Mumbai, but from what I can see, Mumbai (BOM) is served all out of Amsterdam now

Either ATL-JNB or DTW-HKG. I can't remember which one at the moment.



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User currently offlineyeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 882 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14208 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 7):
Either ATL-JNB or DTW-HKG. I can't remember which one at the moment.

ATL-JNB = 7329 nm
DTW-HKG= 6805 nm



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User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9310 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14210 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 7):

Either ATL-JNB or DTW-HKG. I can't remember which one at the moment.

ATL-JNB



yep.
User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1352 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14179 times:

Quoting nwafflyer (Reply 6):
What is Delta's longest flight now? It used to be Atlanta - Mumbai, but from what I can see, Mumbai (BOM) is served all out of Amsterdam now

It is Atlanta -- Johannesburg.


The following list is about a year old, and one or two positions might have changed, but DL's longest pairing is still ATL-JNB:



The world's longest nonstop scheduled flights, in nautical miles:

1. Newark-Singapore: 8,288 (Singapore Airlines)

2. Los Angeles-Singapore: 7,621 (Singapore Airlines)

3. Atlanta-Johannesburg: 7,334 (Delta)

4. JFK-Hong Kong: 7,014 (Cathay Pacific, Continental)

5. JFK-Johannesburg: 6925 (South African Airways)

6. Los Angeles-Melbourne: 6,883 (Qantas)

7. Toronto-Hong Kong: 6,787 (Air Canada)

8. JFK-Mumbai: 6,777 (Air-India)

9. Vancouver-Sydney: 6,741 (Air Canada)

10. Los Angeles-Sydney: 6,507 (United, Qantas, Delta, V Australia)



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User currently offlinetullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14046 times:

Quoting aviateur (Reply 10):
6. Los Angeles-Melbourne: 6,883 (Qantas)

...and V Australia



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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14018 times:
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Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 3):
The first two 747-400's have been sent for interior mods already--rumor says they will do two per month.

Are you sure about this? The press release they made at the beginning of the month said they weren't going to start until Summer 2011. I would be very surprised if the plans changed in such a short amount of time that they are already starting mods, unless this is something other than the seat mod.


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9310 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14005 times:

Quoting goldenstate (Reply 2):
ATLNRT is daily 77L service.

crap i new i forgot one.

ATL-NRT-SIN D
DTW-HKG 5w
LAX-SYD D
ATL-DXB D
ATL-JNB D
DTW-PVG 2w



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User currently offlinecompensateme From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13868 times:

Quoting aviateur (Reply 10):
The following list is about a year old, and one or two positions might have changed, but DL's longest pairing is still ATL-JNB:

EWR-HKG (7008) and ORD-HKG (6772) are two long-running routes missing from the list. Perhaps other's are missing as well.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13780 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 3):
The first two 747-400's have been sent for interior mods already--rumor says they will do two per month.

I wish this were true but I don't think this is accurate. I just gave it a quick glance but it looks like all 16 ships are currently in active rotation.



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13737 times:

Quoting aviateur (Reply 10):
The world's longest nonstop scheduled flights, in nautical miles:

1. Newark-Singapore: 8,288 (Singapore Airlines)

2. Los Angeles-Singapore: 7,621 (Singapore Airlines)

3. Atlanta-Johannesburg: 7,334 (Delta)

4. JFK-Hong Kong: 7,014 (Cathay Pacific, Continental)

5. JFK-Johannesburg: 6925 (South African Airways)

6. Los Angeles-Melbourne: 6,883 (Qantas)

7. Toronto-Hong Kong: 6,787 (Air Canada)

8. JFK-Mumbai: 6,777 (Air-India)

9. Vancouver-Sydney: 6,741 (Air Canada)

10. Los Angeles-Sydney: 6,507 (United, Qantas, Delta, V Australia)



Chicago-Hong Kong should be on there for United, its around 6700-6800 nautical miles. It was the world's longest nonstop flight from the mid-90's up until CO started Newark-Hong Kong I believe.
*Looks like compensateme beat me to it, sorry.
One more thing to add: LAX-BKK on TG A345, its well over 7000 nm.

Quoting Dl767captain (Reply 4):
Where does delta use the 772ER? Hopefully the 763 will start the upgrade cycle soon to keep the LHR market strictly lie flat

This is off the top of my head so probably some errors but here goes:
ATL-TLV (can't remember but might be 77L's on some days)
ATL-LOS
ATL-DTW
DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG (also think it might be 77L's some days)
Soon to be DTW-NGO once DL starts LAX/DTW-HND with the 744's. I guess the 772ER will continue to MNL still (or is it HNL the 744's continue to?).
Also ATL-FRA operated as a 772ER during much of the summer (don't know when it started and ended on that route), its back to a 764 now.

[Edited 2010-09-26 21:04:20]

User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9310 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13540 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 16):
Soon to be DTW-NGO once DL starts LAX/DTW-HND with the 744's. I guess the 772ER will continue to MNL still (or is it HNL the 744's continue to?).

DTW-NGO-MNL 5w

NGO-HNL will be on a 76L (looks like it the aircraft will fly come from NRT (NRT-HNL-NGO))

Quoting 747fan (Reply 16):
ATL-TLV (can't remember but might be 77L's on some days)

all 777

Quoting 747fan (Reply 16):

DTW-PVG (also think it might be 77L's some days)

2 weekly



yep.
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13525 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 16):
Soon to be DTW-NGO once DL starts LAX/DTW-HND with the 744's. I guess the 772ER will continue to MNL still (or is it HNL the 744's continue to?).

Yes, the 777 will fly DTW-NGO-MNL and return. HNL-NGO is slated to be operated with 763ER so no 777's on that.

744's will continue to operate NRT-MNL and NRT-HNL.



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User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1577 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13031 times:

Quoting compensateme (Reply 14):
Quoting aviateur (Reply 10):
The following list is about a year old, and one or two positions might have changed, but DL's longest pairing is still ATL-JNB:

EWR-HKG (7008) and ORD-HKG (6772) are two long-running routes missing from the list. Perhaps other's are missing as well.

Indeed. LHR-SIN @ 6766NM for one.


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User currently offlineoriginalblis From Israel, joined Jan 2010, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12283 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 16):
This is off the top of my head so probably some errors but here goes:
ATL-TLV (can't remember but might be 77L's on some days)

i've flown both 77L and 772 on ATL-TLV. i've also seen a 77L scheduled and a 772 show up.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12175 times:
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Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 1):
ATL-DXB D

I have seen the 77E on ATL-DXB several times. Are you sure it's 77L daily? Or have they just been subs?



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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11590 times:
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DTW-PVG is only a 77L on Sunday (Tuesday return). For the winter, it goes all 77E.

User currently offlineMPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9748 times:

The world's longest nonstop scheduled flights, in nautical miles: (Updated, with tomorrow's scheduled aircraft)

1. Newark-Singapore: 8,288 (Singapore Airlines[345])

2. Los Angeles-Singapore: 7,621 (Singapore Airlines[345])

3. Atlanta-Johannesburg: 7,334 (Delta[77L])

4. New York-Hong Kong: 7,014 (Cathay Pacific[77W], Continental[77E])

5. JFK-Johannesburg: 6,925 (South African Airways[343])*

6. Los Angeles-Melbourne: 6,883 (Qantas[744/380?], V Australia[77W])

7. Toronto-Hong Kong: 6,787 (Air Canada[77L], Cathay Pacific[77W])

8. JFK-Mumbai: 6,777 (Air-India[77L])

9. Chicago-Hong Kong: 6,772 (United[744])

10. Vancouver-Sydney: 6,741 (Air Canada[77L])

11. Los Angeles-Sydney: 6,507 (United[744], Qantas[744/380], Delta[77L], V Australia[77W])

?. London-Singapore: 5,879 (Bristish Airways[744], Singapore Airlines[77W,380], Qantas[380])

*Operated Nonstop Southbound Only
? Unknown number but someone thought it made the list.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9696 times:

Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 23):
The world's longest nonstop scheduled flights, in nautical miles: (Updated, with tomorrow's scheduled aircraft)

This is still incorrect, you are missing DTW-HKG and ATL-DXB which would make the top 10. ATL-DXB is longer than LAX-SYD and DTW-HKG is longer than ORD-HKG.



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25 deltal1011man : yep. The ER does sub work for the LR if needed, but the LR can hold more cargo out of hot DXB.
26 metsfan1 : If you are looking at longest scheduled flights you are missing EK LAX-DXB (77L) at 7,246 nm and LY LAX-TLV (777) at 6,581 nm.
27 cubastar : Off topic a little but.......I know that at least one -400 is modified. I flew on it LHR-ATL (Flt 0009) on Sept. 09. Elite had the 1-2-1 seats which
28 timf : That would be a 767-400, not 747-400. There are 7 of these that were updated last year and fly mainly LHR routes.
29 karan69 : @MPDPilot From 2010 Winter Schedule Air India will be ending JFK - Mumbai and starting BOM-EWR on 77L and later on 77W from Summer Schedule DEL-ORD on
30 Post contains images bananaboy : It was me! Don't want to drag topic off track anymore but where do you get that figure from? GC Mapper shows distance as 6766NM and KVS Tool (not sur
31 MPDPilot : As I mentioned these are the schedules for tomorrow but I will add them, just to see how they fit. I just updated the above list with what I saw in t
32 IrishAyes : What about JFK/EWR-DEL? I am pretty sure those are both over 7,000 mi? Also, I thought JFK-HKG went through YVR, so it is not nonstop?
33 LAXtoATL : Could have been subs, also ATL-DXB was not always scheduled 77L daily. Not sure exactly when it went daily, but last year it was scheduled with both
34 747fan : TG's Bangkok-Los Angeles should be on that list at around #4 or 5. Operated by an A345, about 7200nm I believe. Thanks l1011man & transpac787. I
35 deltal1011man : The Delta 777 has pretty low utilization so they aren't cutting anything to add DTW-NGO.
36 Viscount724 : CX has 3 daily JFK-HKG flights, all 777-300ER. Two are nonstop (7014 nm) and one is via YVR. CO also operates EWR-HKG nonstop with 777-200ER (7009 nm
37 Post contains images lucky777 : I think it's amazing that 18 of the 22 longest routes in the world are flown by some version of a 777. Long live the mighty 777!!!
38 aviateur : . Regarding my list above, I haven't checked the Great Circle Mapper yet, but EK's flights to LAX and SFO might now be in the top ten. Like I said, th
39 yeogeo : LGW-SIN is 6744 statute miles or 5869nm according to OAG. AI does not yet fly these two routes nonstop, if I'm not mistaken.[Edited 2010-09-27 19:17:4
40 STT757 : CO's EWR-DEL should be on there as well.
41 yeogeo : True! Again using OAG numbers: DXB-LAX = 7232nm DXB-SFO = 7019nm[Edited 2010-09-27 19:37:30]
42 Irishpower : 19. Los Angeles-Sydney: 6,507 (United[744], Qantas[744/380], Delta[77L], V Australia[77W]) 20. Chicago-Delhi: 6,503 (Air India[77L], American[77E]) ?.
43 ManekS : Flown by a BA 772 as well.
44 MPDPilot : It doesn't make into the top 20 actually. Because of the shape of the coast it is actually slightly closer, just like it is closer to HI than LA. Bot
45 aviateur : Nice job MPDPilot. Thanks. PS
46 yeogeo : I second that! (although if this turns into a reoccurring thread, including "planned" routes such as those from ORD by AI could prove to be a headach
47 yeogeo : I believe I have a new number 20 for the list: AUH-SYD (EY - A346) according to OAG = 6523nm ! What does your great circle mapper say of this route? I
48 rajrs : EWR - BOM Continental EWR - DEL Continental ORD - DEL American Airlines DEL - JFK Air India
49 yeogeo : EWR-BOM is on the list at #15 and the rest are less than 6500nm and therefore not in the top 20. yeo
50 MPDPilot : Great Circle Mapper has it at 6510nm either way above LAX-SYD. TOP 20 ONLY 1. Newark-Singapore: 8,288nm (Singapore Airlines[345]) 2. Los Angeles-Sing
51 flyibaby : All I have to say is having flown the 3rd longest route non-stop (ATL-JNB) that all of these airlines should consider putting in a pillowtop seat bott
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