iad787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 501 posts, RR: 44 Posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 27398 times:
Korean Air's first A380 - MSN035 - just outside this morning in Toulouse. Love that big blue tail, cannot wait to see it all painted up in Hamburg. First flight should be in about 8 to 10 days. Anyone know when the handover to KAL is?
Whilst it would be lovely to see the 1st flight in 8-10 days, it will be closer to about 6 weeks. Engine & taxi tests aren't due until the end of October, with 1st flight usually a week or so after that, depending on space at XFW.
You can keep upto date with all the A380 production issues/milestones on the A380 production thread #7 on these boards.
ebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 24792 times:
That's going to be one nice looking airplane. Hopefully Korean Air gets optimum use out of it and doesn't regret having ordered it.
Are there any likely new customer for the A380 in the foreseeable future?
col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2040 posts, RR: 22 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 24481 times:
Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 3): That's going to be one nice looking airplane. Hopefully Korean Air gets optimum use out of it and doesn't regret having ordered it.
Don't know of any airline who is using the 380 regret ordering it, nor any pax not happy about flying on it, including me. I am sure KE know what they are doing. Great airline, now with a very quiet plane. ICN-KUL would be nice for the 380 please!!
kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11993 posts, RR: 36 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 24276 times:
Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 3): That's going to be one nice looking airplane. Hopefully Korean Air gets optimum use out of it and doesn't regret having ordered it.
Absolutely; that's going to be a beauty! KE is looking to add quite a bit of capacity over the coming years, what with the 77Ws (now being delivered), 748s (pax and cargo), 787s and of course, A380s.
Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 3): Are there any likely new customer for the A380 in the foreseeable future?
Lots looking; TK was mentioned very recently as having an interest; I also expect to see IB being one of the next five or six customers, along with a major Indian carrier (AI or 9W) or CX. I'm sure Airbus is pushing the A380 on many others as well. CZ will be the next new carrier to take delivery after KE.
KHPN From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 144 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22764 times:
Once she's fully painted that's going to be one beautiful bird
cpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 44 Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22676 times:
Quoting col (Reply 4): Don't know of any airline who is using the 380 regret ordering it, nor any pax not happy about flying on it, including me.
Airlines are extremely happy about the plane - and customers love it. That's going to be such an elegant plane one it is fully painted up. Now hopefully they'll hurry up and put a SkyTeam colour scheme on one of them!
JetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1429 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 21788 times:
Oooh, I would love to see it in full colors! Can't wait! Now there's SQ,EK,QF,AF,LH and KE! I hope they send it to JFK
timberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 20261 times:
This is from an article I found over the weekend. " we plan to fly A380s to U.S. destinations including San Francisco, Atlanta and Chicago."
timberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 20018 times:
Here is the link to the artical I read listing US destinations for planed A380 service. [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509284198356948.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs]
SSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 19898 times:
Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 12): I believe the first route will be their strongest ones ICN-LAX
Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 12): This is from an article I found over the weekend. " we plan to fly A380s to U.S. destinations including San Francisco, Atlanta and Chicago."
Is there more than 1 380-ready LAX gate? Or will QF and KE have to maintain non-conflicting schedules for the single gate?
varigb707 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1229 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18430 times:
SSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18362 times:
Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 15): Is there more than 1 380-ready LAX gate? Or will QF and KE have to maintain no-conflicting schedules for the single gate?
Quoting myself.... I know that a 380 could use a remote gate at LAX, right? But I doubt an airline would schedule its new, high-profile 380 if it had to habitually use a remote gate.
I remember flying nonstop from GRU-LAX and we were late so we lost our gate at LAX and had to use the remote. Very annoying/inconvenient after a long flight.
as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5834 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17678 times:
Interesting listing San Francisco. As KE has never been extremely strong. The 772 is the a/c of choice most of the year with 747's in the summer. But service is not even daily.
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777law From Monaco, joined Jul 2006, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16629 times:
Quoting col (Reply 4): Don't know of any airline who is using the 380 regret ordering it, nor any pax not happy about flying on it, including me
I've flown on an SQ A380 from LHR to SIN and I have one thing to say: Never, never again for any A380. I personally loathe the plane. It is amazingly uncomfortable - seats narrow with very little leg-room. It is totally overcrowded. Takes over an hour to board the plane and almost the same amount of time to de-board. Econ is packed like a cattle car and if you're in a window seat in econ, good luck seeing anything. The wing is so massive that it blocks out the view of almost everything else. I'll take a 747, 777, 330 or 340 any day over a 380.
Good luck to KE with their A380's. I for one will do everything I can to avoid their A380 routes.
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pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16626 times:
The Korean community is more than 2 mln. in the U.S.
The most are on the West Coast. SFO and LAX are obvious destinations.
It should be added that it's quite a prosperous community.
Income and education level is considerably higher than U.S. average.
So it is supposed to travel much.
babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3537 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16299 times:
Quoting 777law (Reply 19): I've flown on an SQ A380 from LHR to SIN and I have one thing to say: Never, never again for any A380. I personally loathe the plane. It is amazingly uncomfortable - seats narrow with very little leg-room. It is totally overcrowded. Takes over an hour to board the plane and almost the same amount of time to de-board.
I find that hard to believe. Maybe you were on some other aircraft? I will never fly long haul on anything else.
That Korean bird will look fantastic. Hope it gets to LHR one day.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
777law From Monaco, joined Jul 2006, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15957 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 20): I find that hard to believe. Maybe you were on some other aircraft?
I know my aircraft well enough to know I was on an A380 - I don't believe any other commercial aircraft has a staircase at the rear, has 2 full passenger decks or has an economy class section in the rear of the top deck. I know some like the plane, I don't.
Maybe KE's A380's will be more comfortable than SQ's - but I doubt it. I think the whole idea of a VLA like the A380 makes great business sense but is terrible for passenger comfort - whether it's SQ, KE, EK, AF or someone else operating the plane.
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HOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2690 posts, RR: 54 Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15932 times:
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Quoting 777law (Reply 18): Never, never again for any A380. I personally loathe the plane. It is amazingly uncomfortable - seats narrow with very little leg-room.
Seat pitch and width are matters that are specific to the airline that operates the aircraft, and they have little to do with the actual aircraft type itself.
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Panman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15800 times:
Quoting 777law (Reply 18):
I've flown on an SQ A380 from LHR to SIN and I have one thing to say: Never, never again for any A380. I personally loathe the plane. It is amazingly uncomfortable - seats narrow with very little leg-room. It is totally overcrowded. Takes over an hour to board the plane and almost the same amount of time to de-board.
On our 380's it takes us around 30 minutes to board using two bridges and 45-50 minutes using one at LHR. And we use the same gate agents as SQ (Plane Handling - formerly Aviance). So somehow I think you are exagerating. Even when the aircraft has towed back to the gate with less than an hour to go (pre catered at the remote stand), we have got it away on time (well when the aircraft itself doesn't throw a tantrum) ...
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10346 posts, RR: 40 Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 15677 times:
This is very good news. Another airline will have A380s in the sky.
Can't wait to see pictures of the interior/cabin fittings.
I wish the new Korean Air A380 and his successors a very happy and safe flying career!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
25 PBOA380FAN: Any chance of KE operating their A380 into London?
26 MadameConcorde: Any idea what the first flight will be? Incheon to where?
27 SKAirbus: Are there any A380 compatible gates at the main terminal at ICN (where Korean normally parks) or will their aircraft use the A380 gates at the satelli
29 ZK-NBT: First flights were announce as ICN-LAX. I guess they may do some NRT or HKG routes or something before that though.
30 na: That´ll be the best-looking A380 so far with the bulk of the massive fuselage blending into the blue sky. I guess it will rarely be seen in Europe th
31 frigatebird: Then I'll advise you to take an EK 77W the next time, or even better an AF 77W COI version. The latter has even 1 seat more than the SQ A388... And I
32 N14AZ: As per http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list it should be in Q3/2011, although I would think this will be early Q3/2011, since the last
33 LHRBlueSKies: I have flown both AF to CDG & SQ to SIN, and both were more than satisfactory in Y-class, although I'm sure the journies would have been divine i
34 EK413: This airframe, MSN035, is temporarily registered at F-WWAT and will be handed over to the Korean flag carrier as HL8213. Interesting is the registrati
35 Airvan00: On 3 nights per week QF departs 2 A380's from LAX within 50min of each other, presumably from different gates.
36 AA777223: Don't plan on flying many places other than LHR, SYD, LAX, JFK, CDG, FRA, DXB, NRT, Singapore or a few others in the next few years then, eh?
38 oa260: Me also , I have to say if there is a route with an A380 over another aircraft I would go with the A380 all the time even if I had to pay more. I fou
39 HOONS90: IIRC, every single gate at the international section of the main terminal is A380 compatible.
41 hal9213: Interesting to find someone else, who actually doesnt like the A380 as a passenger (apart from close friends). Since some people asked, my negative po
42 KPDX: Prepare to be attacked by a angry Airliners.net mob for not being 100 percent satisfied with the best invention is mankind. [Edited 2010-10-01 11:49:1
43 col: I am the opposite, that is why I hate long haul on the 77W and some of the cross Atlantic 757's. You are forever ramming your headset in your ears to
44 PEET7G: I guess it is all up to what people prefer, and how they are hooked up on aviation... for me flying is a never ending love, even flying in a glider,
45 Aesma: I'm eager to see the bird fully painted, but not like others who already believe it will be beautiful, I'm not yet convinced I'll like it.
46 oneworld77: Wow!! SQ A380 was fine by my standards. To put in perspective I DO NOT fly EK's or AF's 777's. So cramped. EK's Y class front cabin downstairs felt ve
47 Aesma: When in TLS the aircraft is empty, no seats, no nothing inside. That's done at the Hamburg facility and takes 9 months.[Edited 2010-10-03 06:51:35]
48 ivo: It will look like this: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...inerphotos/photos/big/00009193.jpg Ivo
49 SSTsomeday: I must say that is disappointing. My first trip on the 380 will likely be to CDG or SYD, which I was looking forward to. I understood the windows wer
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