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AI *A Membership Delayed ... Again  
User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8624 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3301 times:
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I did a search and all the previous threads seem to have been archived

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...%20Alliance%20Membership%20Delayed


It has been a long road for Star Alliance and its future member Air India, whose entry into Star has been delayed by information technology issues. The carrier will now join the world’s largest alliance next summer (instead of March), Star Alliance CEO Jaan Albrecht told The DAILY in Addis Ababa

Is anybody surprised that the last final unbreakable ultimate deadline of March 2011 has slipped again ? This is getting very silly , at this rate IT will be in Oneworld before AI make it into *A in spite of AI having had a two year head start .


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User currently offlineterryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Very ironic that "information technology issues" is the problem.

Isn't India where we outsource much of the worlds IT support too?

[Edited 2010-10-05 14:04:42]

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3152 times:

Not a surprise really but still a shame another delay. Hope they will make the next deadline by next Summer.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

What ever happened to Star's discussions with Jet Airways? Do they still want two Indian carriers?

Someone posted recently a note saying that Jet is now in serious discussions with SkyTeam. Who knows.



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1108 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

This is pathetic and embarrassing for AI.... How have they not solved their IT issues by now is a mystery to me. I'm surprised *Alliance hasn't revoked their membership invitation by now!

User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8492 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2868 times:
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Air India with their new terminal in New Dehli, 777 fleet nonstop to North American hubs, soon a 787 fleet and all those computer engineers should be able to solve IT issues quickly.

User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 4):
This is pathetic and embarrassing for AI.... How have they not solved their IT issues by now is a mystery to me. I'm surprised *Alliance hasn't revoked their membership invitation by now!

Embarrassing for both AI and especially Star Alliance. Given that AI must have agreed at the time of invitation to complete the process by a specific date and to have it delayed again and again is unacceptable. I have a feeling Star Alliance has no choice but to put up with this nonsense as the Indian government will likely not allow them to withdraw or cancel AI invitation and accept 9W instead as it would show how inept they from meddling with the state-owned carrier.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 6):
I have a feeling Star Alliance has no choice but to put up with this nonsense as the Indian government will likely not allow them to withdraw or cancel AI invitation and accept 9W instead as it would show how inept they from meddling with the state-owned carrier.

  

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 3):
What ever happened to Star's discussions with Jet Airways? Do they still want two Indian carriers?

Someone posted recently a note saying that Jet is now in serious discussions with SkyTeam. Who knows.

Interesting. I have not heard that, and joining Skyteam would have to be done in conjunction with a new Euro hub.


User currently offlinezkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

think star should give up on them have another go at another airline in India thats going to play ball.


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User currently offlinevivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Quoting terryb99 (Reply 1):
Very ironic that "information technology issues" is the problem.
Isn't India where we outsource much of the worlds IT support too?

What IT issues?? It was more of a staff will issue rather than a skill issue.

IT issues are just a cover for the gross inefficiencies, bureaucracy and staff problems (read strikes, unions, etc) that exist in the erstwhile IC and AI.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
Air India with their new terminal in New Dehli, 777 fleet nonstop to North American hubs, soon a 787 fleet and all those computer engineers should be able to solve IT issues quickly.

If the will was there, the process could have been easily completed a long time ago.

Look at Kingfisher for example. When they acquired DN a few years ago, they merged and combined the IT systems of the two airlines within no time. Agreed that IC and AI are much larger than what DN & IT were, but it still would not take three years!

Quoting zkojh (Reply 8):
think star should give up on them have another go at another airline in India thats going to play ball.

Not going to happen.

The Indian Government will not allow Jet Airways to join *A before AI does.

There have been talks in unofficial circles that there were some discussions between 9W and *A about an alliance, but nothing concrete came out of it.


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