washingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3199 times:
Until new terminals opened in Delhi, Tel Aviv, Beijing, etc, how dated were the old terminals at these airports? Were they "modern" at all? I'm looking for feedback from travellers who used these terminals before the new ones opened.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 11610 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
Last time I was in TLV was in '91, for the PanAm transition. I can remember the ticket counter area being very cramped, especially when airport security set up for the flights. Baggage claim didn't seem too bad, but you could tell it was an older terminal and of course, the remote parking of a/c with shuttle buses from the terminal was very awkward.
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Coal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2345 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2768 times:
PEK still uses T1 & T2. I believe T1 is still used for some int'l flights while T2 is mostly China Eastern / Shanghai Airlines plus other domestic (Hainan, C. Southern, etc). T3 is Air China, Star Alliance, and a few other int'l carriers.
teme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1843 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2738 times:
I was in Delhi in December 2008. And then the old terminal was rather full of people there weren't enough space for the pax to check in. But the transit area was ok. Not so crowded than the check in area.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2984 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
I haven't ever been to TLV or DEL but I did visit PEK in 2007, before the new T3 opened. I flew in and out of there on KE, who used T2 then. In fact, they still use it today. T2 opened in 1999, a bit before China was thrust into the international spotlight for its economic growth and all. A mere 8 years later, with Beijing set to host the Olympics and China's economy booming, the place was extremely crowded - the wait for customs was over an hour (and we arrived during the rather slow early afternoon period, well before all the flights from the U.S.), and there were long lines/swarms of people everywhere upon departure. I would think with T3 open and the global economic slowdown it's probably a bit less crowded - for now. Truth be told, it felt a lot like our own late 90's-era terminals: DCA B/C and AUS come to mind. Dark features, soaring windows, functional but very little flair. There were lots of security checkpoints (baggage, passport, etc.) that we don't see in the U.S. and an overall lack of signage that made it a bit confusing, but it was certainly more pleasant than the likes of LAX and ORD. Bottom line - nothing wrong with T2 at all. It is still well above the global standard for a major international terminal. It just so happens to be inferior due to a really, really nice new terminal right next door .
One airport that really got a great terminal upgrade was YYZ. The old T2 was fine, but the old T1 was absolutely awful. The new T1 is an excellent upgrade from that rat hole I flew into on NW in the late 90s! Another airport that had a perfectly adequate terminal but built a new one anyway was RSW. I guess they just wanted to really impress their visitors with something shiny and new!
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washingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 1): Baggage claim didn't seem too bad, but you could tell it was an older terminal and of course, the remote parking of a/c with shuttle buses from the terminal was very awkward.
I believe this was the case until the new terminal opened in 2004.
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 4): It is still well above the global standard for a major international terminal. It just so happens to be inferior due to a really, really nice new terminal right next door .
Interesting, thank you for your post! I guess I just assumed that the new terminals were replacing old artifacts that we would call "Third-world terminals"...Also weird to think of 1999 as being old!! Seems like yesterday...
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 4): One airport that really got a great terminal upgrade was YYZ. The old T2 was fine, but the old T1 was absolutely awful. The new T1 is an excellent upgrade from that rat hole I flew into on NW in the late 90s!
4xear From Israel, joined Jul 2010, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
The old terminal in LLBG was very cramped, with a very limited number of gates. Various times during the day, there was complete chaos before boarding. After check-in, you had to head up one floor to the departure lounge, with the duty-free shops taking up quite a bit of floor-space. After boarding pass checks, you had to go down one floor again in order to board an especially wide bus (Neoplan manufacture) to get to the aircraft. In order to relieve some pressure a second terminal was built. It became partially a charter terminal and partially the domestic terminal. From Terminal 2 you could see the cargo apron. The domestic departure flights were parked across from the cargo apron.
When the international (third terminal) was finally completed three years (IIRC) behind schedule, all scheduled international departures moved to that terminal. It is state-of-the-art with jetways and four wings. Many more aircraft can dock at the terminal. The old Terminal 1 first was deserted, but eventually it became the refurbished domestic terminal. Terminal 2 became the terminal for some charter operations, but is essentially deserted for large portions of the day.
If you arrive on an international flight and want to connect to a domestic flight for example to LLET (Eilat), you still hve to get from Terminal 3 to Terminal 1 with a free shuttle bus. I am looking forward to the day when the connection can be made much more streamlined, but I not holding my breath.