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YV Will Continue Flying As US Express Until 2015  
User currently offlineberyllium From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

US Airways will extend contract with Mesa until September 2015...
J.O. has 5 more years to rule...

http://www.bnet.com/blog/airline-bus...rong-with-the-bankruptcy-code/2499

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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Although the thread is about YV continuing with US, the article itself that you posted is a very well written article, basically illustrated that all YV did in bankruptcy was shed jobs, screw creditors and shareholders, and line managements pockets.

At least its only until 2015, which ironically is also when the ZW contract with US is up as well.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2864 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

No surprise there. YV is the only USX carrier serving the PHX hub, so it'd be quite hard to replace that entire feeder op with another carrier (or multiple carriers). Plus, US has a great thing going with those 86 seat CR9s. UA/CO, DL, and AA especially would love to be able to outsource flying to that level. Not quite sure how the US pilots agreed to that one!


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 2):
Plus, US has a great thing going with those 86 seat CR9s. UA/CO, DL, and AA especially would love to be able to outsource flying to that level. Not quite sure how the US pilots agreed to that one!

It was actually a product of the HP merger, since the 900's came onto the YV property in that time. During the transition...the agreement was honored in the transition agreement, but with restrictions, and also the 190 was scoped at that time. In the absence of a single contract though....the 900's are still around and until USAPA gets its act together and gets everyone to sing Kumbaya, they aren't going to make a dent on scope. However if UA/CO and/or AA gets tougher scope in their contract...scope could come into play again.


User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2084 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):
In the absence of a single contract though....the 900's are still around and until USAPA gets its act together and gets everyone to sing Kumbaya, they aren't going to make a dent on scope.

I'm not sure there will be a single contract by the time this extension expires.


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):

Also DALPA (or DPA   ) Contract time is 2012.

Quoting silentbob (Reply 4):

I'm not sure there will be a single contract by the time this extension expires.

Hard to say, USAPA may change its union 2-3 more times by then.   



yep.
User currently offlineUSXGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

I'm wondering if YV lost their rights to exclusivity in PHX and LAS... I know this was part of their contribution of the HP bailout back in the early or mid 90s.


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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2864 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting USXGuy (Reply 6):
if YV lost their rights to exclusivity in PHX and LAS... I know this was part of their contribution of the HP bailout back in the early or mid 90s.

Ahhhh didn't know they had that. Now it all starts to make sense. I forgot all about LAS - the swift closure of the hub must have done a number on YV, who did all kinds of flying out of there in the mid-2000s when it was at its peak. Now they just do LAS-SFO/LAX/PHX/FAT, I'm guessing the base has been closed?



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