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User currently offlinedalce From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1693 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 32809 times:

With the old growing to nearly 250 posts, we better continue here discussing about Swiss, fleet adjustments, BSL and it's network and many other items.


The old thread can be found here : Swiss Aviation Thread #24


Cheers,
DALCE

[Edited 2010-10-14 23:30:35]


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 32612 times:

It looks like Edelweiss Air will increase their long haul fleet to two aircraft; I always thought that the A332 that they will use as of 19.10.2010 would be a provisional solution until their new ordered A333 will arrive as the leasing contract for the A332 they currently use will expire? WIll in that case the ex LX A332 and the newly ordered A333 have the same seating etc including AVOD or will the A332 continue to have the old school IFE system?

User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 32570 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 1):
always thought that the A332 that they will use as of 19.10.2010 would be a provisional solution until their new ordered A333 will arrive as the leasing contract for the A332 they currently use will expire?

That was indeed the plan...

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 1):
WIll in that case the ex LX A332 and the newly ordered A333 have the same seating etc including AVOD or will the A332 continue to have the old school IFE system?

I really wonder which seating and IFE the 333 of WK will have.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 32498 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 2):

I really wonder which seating and IFE the 333 of WK will have.

The IFE will be the same as on the A333 from LX for comonality reasons regarding maintenance. I would assume the seats in Y will probably the same just with a bit less pitch to fit in a couple of more rows. C class probably is some kind of seating between the cradle seats of the LX A332's to the current A340 seating.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 32256 times:

How come LX023 (GVA-ZRH) which was operated by HB-JMC an A333 landed at ZRH today and not GVA? Did the plane go tech en route and therefore was sent directly to ZRH as the LX 022 flight today was operated by HB-JHE which first had to be shipped to GVA?

User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 32197 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
Did the plane go tech en route and therefore was sent directly to ZRH as the

Unfortunately the info has already been removed from the system. However, the delay code for LX23 was technical (aircraft defects), so it looks like your theory is correct. It was HB-JHC. Maybe someone else has more details?



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineaviationmaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2481 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 31886 times:

Just a small update regarding the upgrading of the C-Class on LX's A343s. It seems as if HB-JME is now the third A343 in the fleet to sport the new C-Class after JMJ and JMK.

User currently onlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 31815 times:

I made an interesting detection (which did not know): I looked up the SWISS flights to CDG and not only found the flights from ZRH and GVA but also from MXP to CDG with a SWISS number. It seems that they code-share on the LH Italy flights. This is new for me. Is it only to CDG or all flights by LH Italy?

[Edited 2010-10-18 06:02:12]

User currently offlineMD11A340 From China, joined Jan 2007, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 31480 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 1):
WIll in that case the ex LX A332 and the newly ordered A333 have the same seating etc including AVOD or will the A332 continue to have the old school IFE system?

HB-IQI 'Kiburi' inaugural flight in WK color to Varadero.
J class seat


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 31446 times:

Quoting MD11A340 (Reply 8):
HB-IQI 'Kiburi' inaugural flight in WK color to Varadero.

So they basically just stuck new seat covers on and that's it.


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 31360 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 9):

So they basically just stuck new seat covers on and that's it.

Well, seat pitch in C looks a bit more cramped.. Guess they added a few rows.



Good day to you sir! Please turn left, your seat is in the first row.
User currently offlineaviationmaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2481 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 31239 times:

Quoting aviationmaster (Reply 6):
Just a small update regarding the upgrading of the C-Class on LX's A343s. It seems as if HB-JME is now the third A343 in the fleet to sport the new C-Class after JMJ and JMK.

Just noticed today that the number of refurbished A343s is now at four.

HB-JMA
HB-JME
HB-JMJ
HB-JMK

Quoting MD11A340 (Reply 8):
HB-IQI 'Kiburi' inaugural flight in WK color to Varadero.

Pretty dissapointing looking cabin after the whole fuss they did about their "new" A330.


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 31222 times:

Quoting aviationmaster (Reply 11):
Pretty dissapointing looking cabin after the whole fuss they did about their "new" A330.

Agreed.

Not so much difference from the 332s ex-SR really.

Interiors similar to 333s in Y and to 343s pre-refurbishment in J would have been a reasonable expectation.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 31109 times:

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 10):

Well, seat pitch in C looks a bit more cramped.. Guess they added a few rows.

Looks like 1 more row was added to the front compartment as with LX there were 4 and now it seems to be 5 rows. Compared to the C Class in the current WK A332 it is a improvement and IFE of course as well  


User currently offlineka From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 31049 times:

...and on the EDW-facebook-fansite you can see pics of how the cabin in the factory-new A333 will look like. C will be not even near the original LX-A340 seats...
http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/ede...50096377498098

KA.



Keep smiling - you might be on Radar!
User currently offlinesandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 30982 times:

I think we have to keep in mind that EDW is still a leisure carrier and consequently can't sell a premium network carrier's product profitably. I don't think you'll find anything better on Condor, Thomson and the likes.

I'm now off to LUG, haven't flown on a Saab for years  


User currently offlinesr176 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 30849 times:

That is right EDW is a leisure carrier. But among them they are still by far the best.

Skywork Airlines of Berne has also totally improved their corporate identity and they are expanding at least in the long term. (www.flyskywork.com )

I wish them good luck


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 30765 times:

The Skywork livery looks pretty good. I think they will get some more publicity with this.

They also decided not to operate the announced Berne to Brussels and Brussels to Angers routes. I hope they have better luck with the other destinations.



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 30593 times:

Quoting ka (Reply 14):
...and on the EDW-facebook-fansite you can see pics of how the cabin in the factory-new A333 will look like. C will be not even near the original LX-A340 seats...

the biggest improvement seem to be the economy class seats. But then again as was mentioned, WK is a leasure airline and at least they will have now AVOD in all classes.


User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 30372 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 17):
They also decided not to operate the announced Berne to Brussels and Brussels to Angers routes. I hope they have better luck with the other destinations
Quoting RJ100 (Reply 17):
They also decided not to operate the announced Berne to Brussels and Brussels to Angers routes. I hope they have better luck with the other destinations.

Are you sure? What I know, they just postponed it to end of March, to start it up with the summer-schedule. As they actually will get good governement money on the Bruxelles - Angers part it would be foolish not to fly it. Obviously the entire flight is as good as paid by this summ. On the BRN - BRU part they can count on a good number of governement travellers, as the "Bundesreisezentrale" is normally booking flights out of BRN when they are in existence. So the BRU route was always quite ok for a 30-seater. LX did it as long as they had the S340. Sunair did it as long as they had 5 daily Billund - BRU flights, where from one to two could be extended to BRN.

What will be interesting with Skywork is, that they are still discussing a new aircraft. They are not that happy with the Q400 but it gives them full load capacity out of BRN. Rumors are from a second Q400 over a E190 (they offered an E190 to tour operators for the next summer) up to A319. Whatever, the announcement will probably come soon  

It seems that the partnership between Skywork and Aaretal Reisen - the main tour operator at BRN - is history. So as aaretal will continue with a similar or even better programm next summer, it will be interseting to see what will now happen in BRN. The chances are good, that the first time in history of the airport, the programm will become really attractive. If local Swiss customers will start to use their airport, nothing stands against a good evolution  

Cheers
Legacy135  


User currently offlinePhilInBRN From Switzerland, joined Jun 2009, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30348 times:

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 19):
Skywork and Aaretal Reisen - the main tour operator at BRN - is history. So as aaretal will continue with a similar or even better programm next summer, it will be interseting to see what will now happen in BRN.

As far as I understand, Aaretal Reisen will still be the main tour operator on Skywork flights. But Skywork also wants to become less dependent on this operator. Consequently they intend on opening a travel bureau in Berne city.

But interesting times lie ahead in BRN


User currently offlinesr176 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 30249 times:

Helvetic is about to consider to base an F100 in BRN for a few days each week in summer 2011.

User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 30038 times:

21):
Helvetic is about to consider to base an F100 in BRN for a few days each week in summer 2011.
  you are not supposed to tell that already   lol

the official press releaase will follow soon, as contracts are about o be signed right now. As usual, we are in aviation, don't believe it before you see it  
.....actually the want to fly every day expect MON and WED....

Cheers
Legacy135  

[Edited 2010-10-23 13:59:45]

User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 29744 times:

Other good news: LX is to step up GVA-ATH from 1 to 2-daily, starting 29th April 2011  http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20101025.aspx

Both flights will be operated with a 320.

10yrs ago, SR would fly this route 1-daily, with an AR1.


Keep going, Swiss  

Any chance ZRH-ATH be later upgraded from 3 to 4-daily?

[Edited 2010-10-25 11:56:41]

[Edited 2010-10-25 11:57:34]

User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 29729 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 23):
Any chance ZRH-GVA be later upgraded from 3 to 4-daily?

GVA-ZRH is 9x daily. You sure you didn't mean another route ?


25 OA260 : Indeed great news and hope to see more Swiss expansion in ATH .
26 Post contains images SR4ever : Yes, I did, sorry for the typo
27 ZRH : A question on Swiss' long-haul fleet: is this correct that all 343 are leased and all 333 belong to SWISS?
28 Post contains links viasa : You can check this very easy by yourself: http://www.bazl.admin.ch/fachleute/luftfahrzeugregister/index.html Baboo will return the three Embraer 190s
29 Post contains links ZRH : SWISS reports an operating profit of CHF 232 mi (=app the same in USD) for the first 9 months (last year for the same period 113 mi = plus 105%). The
30 dtswi : Quote from last swiss official financial report: "Product investments: The entire SWISS long-haul fleet will be equipped with the state-of-the-art Bus
31 ZRH : You are right. I also read this and did not understand it. I guess it must be the 343s.
32 ka : the A343 are NOT getting the new frist class. in the german original text, it is well clear. as discussed several times there are several reasons for
33 SR4ever : I am now pretty sure that the 343s will get the new F and Y cabins in a not-so-distant future, let alone the 346s ordered by SR and to be cascaded fr
34 ZRH : In this case I have to read the German text, the English must be a bad translation. Edited: I read the German text. You are right there they say: ...
35 Post contains links ZRH : Why do journalists usually have no idea about aviation. In the Tagesanzeiger online there is an article about a SWISS A 321 which had to turn back to
36 Post contains images ZRH :
37 nyswiss : Any chance that Swiss will take over some Baboo routes (Bucarest, Nice) to further expand the network out of Geneva now since Baboo has withdrawn from
38 HECA : Is it certain LX will take over these A346s from SA?
39 Post contains links Humberside : Now official. Flying Wed-Sun. Friday scheduled service to Brindisi, otherwise all flights are charter as follows: Wed - Heraklion Thu - Kos Fri - Pre
40 PhilInBRN : Nothing but rumours at this time.
41 ka : Of course not! SA is currently introducing 2 more A343 as they need more capacity, urgently. Why on earth should they think of disposing any A346??!!
42 ZRH : I think you are right. It seems that SWISS is interested in a few 346 but I don't understand where this rumor about the SA 346 came up. I never heard
43 LXA340 : Nevertheless SWISS will need to upgrade it's First Class on the A343's to stay competitive. My guess would be around 2012 when LH will roll out it's
44 Post contains links AntonovA330 : Apparently, Helvetic will serve Cardiff 4/w (1-345--) from March 28 on: http://www.travelinside.ch/travelinside/de/index.php?we_objectID=16482 Accordi
45 Humberside : See
46 ZRH : Edelweiss will fly to Beirut (from Facebook):
47 SR4ever : I am sure NCE and FCO will be back on the route map in a not-so-distant future. OTP may come back, too.
48 AntonovA330 : Frequency and flight times aren't very appealing... What kind of clientele are they aming for? Can we see an LX service if the route is found to be p
49 Viscount724 : There's no way LX's cost structure can compete with EasyJet on a very shorthaul route like GVA-NCE (161nm). Passengers don't care about service on 40
50 SR4ever : Agreed. Couldn't LX start ZRH-BRS at some stage (2-3 daily AR1 or C10) ? While the UK market may still stagnate for a little while as the recovery wi
51 runway23 : I take it you've never taken baboo on GVA-NCE. The demographics of people who fly Baboo on that route are not the same as those who fly easyjet. Most
52 SR4ever : Agreed, but this is WK, not LX. Holidaymakers, with a good share of ethnic traffic I guess. It would be a desirable move, ideally with 1 night + 1 da
53 Viscount724 : Well, it obviously hasn't been a good market for Baboo since they're almost dead. Their 3 Embraer 190s are now stored at GVA airport, presumably awat
54 SR4ever : In terms of volume, there is certainly a market, as GVA and NCE both rank 2nd in the airports leagues of their countries. The daily single TGV servic
55 Viscount724 : Found fares as low as CHF26.95 (without checked luggage which most passengers on that route probably won't have) for several dates in the last 10 day
56 SR4ever : Mostly on the early-morning flight, while the 2 remaining daily flights have higher price-tags...
57 OA260 : This will be a good route for them IMHO . Summertime is packed in all classes on many carriers as I found out this Summer. Subject to the political s
58 Post contains links glidepath73 : A Cessna has made an emergency landing on its way to ZRH in south Germany this evening. All two passengers survived with some injuries. The exactly ty
59 runway23 : It doesn't say anything to be honest and you are trying to correlate two things that aren't tied. How are you so sure that it isn't a success for Bab
60 LXA340 : I saw that HB-IQH was flying today for SWISS operating flight LX086 to YUL, this plane didn't fly anymore since july. Considering that LX has 8 A333's
61 Post contains images sandroZRH : They sent her to ATH two days ago. I don't care wether they have more A332s flying as long as they won't deploy one on LX16 tomorrow, or i'll be tota
62 ZRH : Poor business class passengers. I wish you a lot of pleasure in NY. I envy you, NYC is on of my favorite cities.
63 Post contains images sandroZRH : Oh I wish i could stay, im connecting onto a Jetblue flight to MCO But thanks anyway!
64 ZRH : I was always wondering. When you fly as a passenger, do you have automatically a cockpit permit as a SWISS pilot or do also have to ask the captain?
65 Post contains images LXA340 : enjoy the A333 and of course New York
66 330lover : On the 'relatively short' flights (compared to real long haul), I suppose it's not too bad either...
67 Post contains images sandroZRH : No, of course I have to ask the captain, but I have erm, let's say "higher priority/status" than a regular passenger
68 dalce : Is HB-IQH being deployed to more European destinations the upcoming days/weeks??
69 Post contains images aviationmaster : Hey Sandro Seems like you got lucky, since HB-JHF operated your flight yesterday. Will you be staying in MCO only or in NYC too? I'm flying to NY on
70 LXA340 : it went to CAI today as LX236/7
71 LIPZ : Strong rumor : ZRH-FCO with Alitalia (twice daily) is supposed to begin in S11.
72 LXM83 : It hasn't been mentioned here that Vueling will start a twice daily BCN-ZRH service for the summer timetable 2011 (effective from 27Mar11) as follows:
73 PhilInBRN : Also, EK has supposedly requested time slots at GVA for daily flights to DXB using Boeing 777 aircraft.
74 Post contains links ZRH : I only want to share a nice picture which you find on the page of ZRH: http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/Port...etrieb/Flugbetrieb_im_Fr_hling.JPG
75 ZRH : The decision of the hosting of the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup™ takes place place today and tomorrow in Zurich. There are a lot of VIPs here, as fo
76 sandroZRH : Yep, they have already been here yesterday..
77 ZRH : Bill Clinton arrived in an official "United States of America" B 737.
78 Post contains links and images LXA340 : In the bellow link you will find the article about the latest award SWISS has won, this time for the seat desgin of the new First Class. Very interest
79 MD11A340 : Hi Everyone, Is Edelweisse going to BJS next summer been confirmed? How about HU? I heard from one of my friend from HU that they will fly to ZRH as o
80 Post contains links LXA340 : If someone is interested; SWISS is auctioning of a pair of the "old" Business lie flat seats from one of it's A340's. Bellow you will find the link: h
81 dtswi : you are perfectly right - swiss has no choice than updating their first class product on the 340 to match it with 333. I am convinced, despite offici
82 Knightsofmalta : I for one sincerely hope they will not 'upgrade' First on the A340 to the new seats, because the new seats and cabin are by no means an improvement,
83 Post contains links ZRH : I did not realize till now that at November 30th the third bridge and new gate opened for boarding the A 380. The two bridges for the main deck are Ga
84 LXA340 : HB-JMA HB-JME HB-JMJ HB-JMK Further A343's will be upgraded starting later this month
85 PhilInBRN : LX took delivery of a brand new A321 HB-IOM today. It will fly its first scheduled service on December 16.
86 Post contains links HAM : Hello increases its equity from 8 to 22 million CHF; the supervisory board approved the lease of a 4th A320 (due for delivery in Q2 2011). Source: htt
87 dalce : That is good news! Finally some factory fresh blood to the Europe fleet!
88 Post contains links AntonovA330 : In an interview, SWISS CEO Hohmeister said they expect to end 2010 with a profit even higher then last year. For 2011, they want to increase existing
89 Post contains links oa260 : A Swiss TR here for those interested. Also does anyone have any updates on the construction of the new Pier? Swiss Business Class DUB-ZRH-ATH-ZRH-DUB
90 Post contains links aviationmaster : Great trip report! The work at Pier B should be completed by the end of next year. http://www.zurich-airport.com/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-656/
91 Post contains images nyswiss : Anybody know what happen to LX 14 today ? It seems to be a A332, and I'm booked in C class on it .....
92 LXA340 : For some odd reason LX014 was an A332 for the past days, however today it was late more than 4 hours, possibly it had to be subed in for an A333 that
93 oa260 : Thanks and thanks for the info I cant wait to see it open. Will make life easier again.
94 Post contains links ZRH : ZRH is more interesting for spotting at the moment. Because of the snow in LHR, FRA, CDG different long-haul flights are diverted to ZRH. There are (o
95 SR4ever : Which ones? - MAN, 1st UK Regions airport, BD hub - LCY, as demand remains strong (and a powerful tool against EZS) - DME, strong demand, too - any o
96 Humberside : MAN is not a bmi hub. They serve 4 destinations from MAN: ABZ, EDI, LHR, Lyon
97 Post contains images AntonovA330 : The article doesn't mention which destinations. As there aren't many ex-GVA anyway, you might be right with any of your choices
98 Post contains images sandroZRH : The worst snowstorm in Europe and I've been at work all the time without a single delay, while seeing all the diverted LH, AF and BA aircraft scattere
99 330lover : I'd like to see them taking over the BRU-GVA route from SN. They are really on a different quality scale, IMO. But probably will never happen...
100 AntonovA330 : True, but you still don't need two hands to count 'em all... well almost... As of frequencies, I was wondering if a second daily DUB (ex ZRH) would w
101 SR4ever : Next year, when SN has fnally joined the LH Group, we can reasonably expect improvements: - no more B-Light class - enchanced catering offer in Europ
102 Post contains images SR4ever : There is potential indeed, even though quite many destinations are already served by Star Alliance partners. As far as bigger routes are concerned, F
103 330lover : Hope so, would be a major improvement compared to now. Another 'hope so'. Knowing SR was going to be launch costumer for 346 before things went wrong
104 SR4ever : Probably, yes. B-light class isn't such a bad idea on paper, but it often turns out to be poor value for money, given the fares actually charged. The
105 Post contains images LXA340 : Are there any significant differences in the cockpit of the new A321 compared to the rest of the fleet that is up to 15 years old except for the new
106 sandroZRH : Swiss will finally join the TATL JV of LH/AC/UA/CO on the 1st of july 2011. Was about time! OS and BMI will be joining on the same date. Yes, there ar
107 LIPZ : Any source for this? I'm also curious about BMI, which currently doesn't serve Canada or USA at all.
108 Post contains images aviationmaster : Check his profile - he works for LX.
109 Post contains images sandroZRH : Swiss intranet newsfeed edit: I was wondering about that aswell. Maybe a sign of things to come?[Edited 2010-12-23 09:15:50]
110 dens : A friend of mine who is working at GVA airport just told me the following news : - Gulf Air will be back to GVA as of 2011. After the annoucements of
111 LXA340 : Thanks Sandro, can't wait to see pictures of it, the new cabin design of the Airbus A32S is also really nice.
112 SR4ever : Very much agreed. Any chance WY also come to GVA?
113 Post contains images PhilInBRN : Very slick livery indeed. They will reportedly receive a 2nd Dornier 328 in February to open up new routes to London, Elba, Ibiza and Mallorca.
114 LXLucien : Any update about the Inverness Route? It's a bit strange, it only appears on the route-map, but it's a dead link and it's not listed as a destination
115 Post contains links LONGisland89 : Grüezi, Frohi Wiehnachtä mittenand! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cjwnyZfzHU
116 Post contains links SRforever : Nothing new actually. It's a charter for swiss touroperator Hotelplan and their Falcon Travel brand. It has already operated this year on Saturdays f
117 DALCE : Next week my AMS-ZRH flight is scheduled to be operated by Edelweiss equipment. What differences in service and cabin lay-out can I expect. Obviously
118 ZRH : I guess the service will be SWISS standard. The cabin is little bit different to the SWISS cabin but nevertheless very good for a charter airline. I
119 DALCE : Just came back from my ZRH trip. Outbound was operated by Edelweiss as stated before. They sure have a nice product and was positively surprised! Back
120 Post contains links PhilInBRN : Some news concerning the LX Summer 11 schedule: Zurich – Barcelona eff 28APR11 All 4 Daily operates with Airbus A321 (LX1950/1951 till 27/28APR11 op
121 nyswiss : I apologize, this has been discussed before,but will Swiss receive any new 320 / 321 in 2011 allowing them a further expansion of their European netwo
122 PhilInBRN : Swiss will receive two A320s (planned to be HB-JLP and HB-JLQ) in March and April of this year allowing them to increase services in Geneva to Madrid
123 ZRH : Does Edelweiss keep the 332? Does not the 333 replace it?
124 Post contains links PhilInBRN : No they will keep it for at least the Summer 2011 schedule. This will allow them to increase frequencies on some routes as well as launching new serv
125 ZRH : Narita is quite a strange destination for EDW. They compete directly with their mother company SWISS with its daily flights. It is like SWISS upgrade
126 sr176 : Ist't it that EDW has 2 flights to NRT, but one is only open to Japanese tour companies ? The saturday is not competing the LX flight, in fact it has
127 PhilInBRN : Can't find the source but now that you're mentioning it I believe NRT will indeed be operated twice weekly, one time with LX code share the other tim
128 SwissVA : Hi everyone, Especially SandroZRH, ZRH, LXLucien and Aviationmaster! The others I did not have the honours yet to meet in person on one of the legenda
129 Post contains links ZRH : Why do I always have to be annoyed when I read something about aviation in the newspapers, even in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung: http://www.nzz.ch/nachri
130 debonair : Nope... According to GULF AIR: Both Geneva and Milan will be served by a Boeing 737 -700 aircraft, wet-leased by Gulf Air from Privatair - a leading
131 AirMale : And Oman Air will soon land in Zurich. No dates announced yet, but they are currently looking for staff based in Zurich.
132 Post contains images ZRH : Now they really changed the pic to an A 340, as I suggested them. My email was successful.
133 LXA340 : Thanks for the update for the summer timetable of SWISS. Do you know when SWISS will have all the A332's removed from the fleet?
134 PhilInBRN : To this date I have not heard anything about the final removal of the A332 fleet. I'm not even sure if Swiss will get rid of all of them considering
135 BrianDromey : The frames might also be useful for destinations which are considered, by some, a bit long for A32X and there is not demand for 3 class service. Midd
136 nyswiss : The purser of LX 15 on Dec 19th (when the 332 came to JFK instead of the 333) told me that all 332's would be gone by April
137 Post contains images SwissVA : lol, shows you how well informed we are as staff! Well, I haven't heard anything official yet about the exact operation, I am guessing it will be a f
138 Post contains links AntonovA330 : Some news concerning EDW/LX' 1 weekly ZRH-PEK flight: It will start on July 7th (last flight on October 14th), aircraft will be A332, flight numbers L
139 PhilInBRN : There are rumours that Cathay will resume 5 weekly service to Zurich on 777-300ER in fall 2011.
140 SR4ever : Let's hope that LX will fly ZRH-PEK in the near future. Could a 333 over Russia make it?
141 PhilInBRN : Look for this to become official once they take delivery of their five new A330-300s in 2012. They could then free up some A343s in order to operate
142 knightsofmalta : Let's just hope nobody else beats them to it.
143 Viscount724 : There are longer 333 nonstop routes than ZRH-PEK (4315 nm). For example, LH FRA-SEA (4439 nm).
144 Post contains images aviationmaster : Welcome back! This would be fantastic news if it is indeed true. Would be great to have CX back in ZRH again.
145 DALCE : Could those sleeping 343's in ATH from OA be of any help? Is this somehow realistic to have them added to the LX fleet?
146 Post contains links aviationmaster : AC flight 878 from YYZ encountered turbulence over the Atlantic, which lead to 14 injuries (2 crew members). The B763 was met by medical services once
147 HAM : Hello's second A320, HB-JIY, arrived at ZRH. One of the last three MD90s, HB-JID, has left the fleet, will get maintenance at Stockholm and then go to
148 Post contains links and images PhilInBRN : And here's the new A333 for Edelweiss View Large View MediumPhoto © JacobP
149 RJ100 : Apparently, Swiss, LXs partner airlines and EuroAirport will inform the press about the airlines future operations in Basel on Thursday. Only news so
150 sandroZRH : Not sure about the switch, but a twice daily flight to LHR might make sense in addition to the LCY operation. I don't think it would make sense to gi
151 RJ100 : You are correct, I too remember the holiday flights with Airbusses a few years ago. And during a few seasons they operated the LHR route 3 times a day
152 knightsofmalta : It would be unlike SWISS' usual communication style to call a press conference to announce changes and route cuts. When there are cuts they usually t
153 Post contains links and images AntonovA330 : Not sure if it was an a.netter who has spread the news on FT concerning LX' new destinations in 2012. Anyway, as there is no word yet here I just post
154 RJ100 : bmi seems to start Basel-Heathrow 3x a day MO to FR, 2x a day on SAT and SUN, also 5x weekly Basel- Manchester (MO to FR). With A-319. More news later
155 Post contains images ManekS : Great news if its true. We've really been missing them - tired of SQ ripping us off. Hurry up 2012
156 LIPZ : Swiss is to begin BSL-FCO daily with RJ100
157 Someone83 : And BSL-CPH with 6x weekly from March 27th
158 RJ100 : London City will be dropped (12 weekly), also Warsaw (3 weekly). New routes will be: BSL-LHR 19 weekly bmi A-319 BSL-MAN 5 weekly bmi A-319 BSL-CPH 6
159 SR4ever : Pity that LCY is axed, it seemed to work pretty well. Otherwise, we have pretty good news, even though BD remains substandard compared to LX (but BD o
160 sandroZRH : Yeah, I thought so aswell. yeah. I don't like all those subleases, and not just because of the inferiour on-board products.
161 RJ100 : London City is popular for bankers. The economic situation in Basel is a bit different from GVA and ZRH. Of course there are banks as well (for exampl
162 Post contains links LXA340 : SWISS had it's 10th A333 delivered yesterday (HB-JHJ) and will receive another 5 from 2012 onwards which they will use then to increase frequencies an
163 DALCE : I do understand this from the pax-side point of view. But on the other hand, it does give SWISS a lot of flexibility on short term equipment changes.
164 Post contains images LXA340 : They use them somethimes on ATH, maybe you will try your luck there
165 aviationmaster : A rare visitor dropped by ZRH today for a short visit. US flight 706, op. by an A332, from PHL diverted to ZRH this morning due to bad weather in MUC.
166 Post contains links and images PhilInBRN : According to the Swiss travel magazine TravelInside.ch there will be two new airlines in ZRH starting their flights with the start of the winter timet
167 Post contains images sandroZRH : After witnessing a hainan departure from TXL last week i already feel sorry for the controllers at ZRH But yes, good to see some new widebody metal at
168 SR4ever : Not only bankrs, yet among all those who have their life in the East End and Northeast Kent.
169 PlaneHunter : As of today, Swiss new long-haul Business Class is also available on the daily service to Los Angeles. Does anybody know which A340 has been retrofitt
170 LXA340 : As of today HB-JML is also retrofitted.
171 PlaneHunter : Thanks a lot! Hopefully it will soon get a new name, too. PH
172 LAX888 : Don't know if the question has been asked before: Why do certain airlines always use the same gates in ZRH? Is that some kind of special agreement? I
173 ZRH : Why not? From the operational point of view it makes sense. It is much easier for the airlines and the airport when the same gates are used. Perhaps
174 HT : Is LX meanwhile increasingly suffering from the constraints that are imposed on ZRH's runway capacity (both technically and politically) ? Delays duri
175 SR4ever : Good to read that HU, CX and WY are soon in ZRH. This shall hopefully improve the case for a full-fledged refurbishment of the F and Y cabins of LX 34
176 Viscount724 : And most airports have more than one ground handler so if the same gates can be used for flights handled by the same ground handler it minimizes the
177 RJ100 : Aigle Azur will in July start a weekly flight from Basel to Béjaia in Algeria. It is the fifth route out of Basel, already flying to Algiers, Constan
178 Post contains links and images LHBSL : hi everyone... according airliners.de, the 6th A380 of LH will be named after the City of Zurich http://www.airliners.de/management/m...chste-a380-nam
179 HT : I checked my pictures and it was in 2006 when I took pictures of a MASkargo B742(SF) TF-ARJ using ZRH instead of the normal BSL due to runway repairs
180 Post contains images ZRH : Cool . Unfortunately we most probably won't see her in ZRH.
181 RJ100 : Yes, the runway repair in 2006 was done in a very bad quality...that's why they need to do all again. At the moment there are 4 747 flights a week (2
182 Post contains images PhilInBRN : I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but I'm wondering to which extent the crossing runway 08/26 is currently being used and which aircraft
183 mcg : I'm flying LX 8 and 9 between ZRH and ORD this summer. Equipment is A333. Can anyone suggest the best seating in coach? Thanks.
184 LAX888 : check out seatguru.com. The best seats in coach are in row 29 (ample legroom, however next to washrooms) or seat 23D. However 23D is only reserved fo
185 LAX888 : I saw that SQ sent a B773ER to ZRH today. Was this some last minute equipment swap? I guess the plane was not full or did they have to leave some pax
186 PhilInBRN : The three new aircraft for Skywork will be: Mid-February: Cirrus ex. D-CPRP (Dornier 328-100) May: Frontier/Lynx ex. N509LX September: Frontier/Lynx e
187 HT : Another thing not possible to do online is booking Open-Jaw flights. While it can be done for LX-flights using some other booking engine, these usual
188 Post contains images LHBSL : at least for the nameing ceremony, she will be in ZRH
189 RJ100 : I try to find out the statistics but less than 20% of the traffic operates from the short runway. It is used however...I took off there already with
190 mcg : Thanks for the info. Does anyone know why you can't reserve seats on short-haul flights? I'll be flying ZRH-FLR and apparently you can "request" seat
191 aviationmaster : Not sure, but it could have something to do with LX operating short-haul aircraft with flexible C/Y-configurations, so they may not know too far in a
192 LXA340 : It is likely that SQ has swaped the A380 for the B773 today as they are one A380 short at the moment and probably of all the daily flights ZRH had th
193 LAX888 : I am not sure about the cockpit crew but SQ flight attendants are allowed to operate on up to three aircraft types. So this should not be a problem.
194 Viscount724 : BA also does not permit seat selection until online check-in opens 24 hours before departure, except for First class passengers, gold and silver freq
195 SwissVA : Thats not really difficult, SQ has 777 crew all over Europe at any given time. It's just a matter of carefull and structured planning, south is a cre
196 LXA340 : Thanks guys. Yeah it's true SQ has quite a few 777 flights daily throughout europe so there are options to switch crews around. Unlike SWISS who's cr
197 aviationmaster : HB-IQQ was used as a substitute due to the scheduled A333 having gone tech. Also LX18 returned back to ZRH after having been airborne for aprix. an ho
198 ZRH : From Facebook: Swiss International Air Lines Here is the final update about the introduction of our refurbished A340s with our new Business Class (an
199 Post contains links ZRH : An SQ 380 went tech today at ZRH. Probably tomorrow we will have two of them here: http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/panorama...n-Kloten-gestrandet/story/24
200 Post contains links ZRH : Here they are: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...963377666966.20879.119578974772073
201 LXA340 : Looks like as of now there will always be one A343 in Maintenance getting the new C Class. Now the question is, will LX begin to upgrade the First an
202 Post contains links and images dtswi : Dear friends, I have just had - again - a very positive experience on swiss' 343 to and from Bangkok - bus and eco. See my trip report here: Dumped EV
203 nyswiss : I thought the new business class seats come with the new new IFE system (why would they keep the old one ?)
204 LXA340 : The A343's are equiped with an AVOD system however it is not as advanced as the one found on the new A333's on top of that it often has technical pro
205 SR4ever : A real pity... Any chance LX re-considers its orginal choice and fillay goes for a full-fledged upgrade of its 343s (and posibly of would-come 346s),
206 ka : No, for the refurbishment of new seats in F and Y. But once again: the A343 have AVOD in all classes. Just not the latest version. KA.
207 Post contains links ka : In other news the new Edelweiss A333 HB-JHQ was delivered and transeferred to ZRH yesterday. Edelweiss has a pressrelease in German: http://www.edelwe
208 LXA340 : Still hoping this will come by the time when LX receives it's further 5 A333's in the next couple of years. What will be the difference in the Busine
209 SR4ever : So do I. F class passengers deserve a top-notch product, especially on flights longer than those operated with 333s. AFAIK, the 333 will feature nice
210 ZRH : The NZZ am Sonntag reports that SWISS has to cancel the second ZRH-JFK flight in the first week of March due to pilot shortage. I can't provide the li
211 Post contains links ZRH : I started a new thread, please post there: Swiss Aviation Thread 26[Edited 2011-02-21 10:07:14]
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