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CRJ-1000 - Who Has It On Order?  
User currently offlinedldtw1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17988 times:

Hello everyone. I was watching YouTube yesterday. And during that time I was look at the CRJ-1000 aircraft.
Couple of questions here..
1) Is this plane on order by any major carrier in the USA or in other countries?
2) If the answer to question (1) is yes, Who are they and when will we see this bird in service?
3) If the answer to question (1) is NO. Then why not?
Thanks for he help everyone.

Chuck

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User currently offlineGatovolador From Spain, joined Apr 2007, 435 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17981 times:

The CRJ-1000 has been purchased by Spain's Iberia Regional (Aiir Nostrum), which will launch the aircraft. In principle, there are already some flight which show the "CRK" as equipment during the month of December. Thus, the first aircraft should be delivered soon.

The aircraft will be used, mainliy, for domestic hops.


User currently offlinedldtw1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17957 times:

Thank you Gatovolador. Is there any US carriers on the list to recieve this bird? Because it would answer the question as to
what will take the place of the old DC-9's. I would think DL would be looking at this aircraft as well.

Thank you again for your help.

Chuck


User currently offlineflyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17919 times:

Quoting dldtw1962 (Reply 2):
Thank you Gatovolador. Is there any US carriers on the list to recieve this bird? Because it would answer the question as to
what will take the place of the old DC-9's. I would think DL would be looking at this aircraft as well.

Thank you again for your help.

Chuck

US carriers need to work out scope before they purchase this aircraft. To small for mainline and to big for regionals.



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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17902 times:
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The CRJ1000 has not even been delivered yet, in fact I don't even think it is certified yet.

User currently offlineFoxDelta From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17687 times:

Hi,
The CRJ1000 (or CRK or CRX) will not start operations until late January or early February 2011. It has not been certified yet, and its certification is constantly being delayed.   

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User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17376 times:

Quoting dldtw1962 (Reply 2):
Because it would answer the question as to
what will take the place of the old DC-9's. I would think DL would be looking at this aircraft as well.

As for DL ordering a 100-seater, it seems more doubtful by the day given the fact that the -30s have already been retired and the -40s are about to be retired with no replacement... But if they do, the E-190/195 or Bombardier C-Series would probably have the advantage. The CRJ-1000 is too small and doesn't have the range to be an effective DC-9 replacement. And it has been said that the only reason NW ordered the CRJ-900 was because they had options on the CRJ. NW reportedly liked the E-Jet much more, and I would believe that the same is true for Delta.



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User currently offlineLouieP2186 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 16659 times:

It came in to TUL earlier this year for something that I don't know what for. You can compair it's size to a DC-9. It looked pretty sharp I would say.

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 14388 times:

It was edited.

Quoting cschleic (Reply 10):
"CRJ-1000 How Has Them"

is what he originally wrote, just a typo on 'Who'.



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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13910 times:

I hope Delta never orders the CRJ-1000. The 900 is bad enough with a million pink tag bags. I cannot imagine how horrible the 1000 would be. I would hope US carriers would buy Embraer 190s before the CRJ-1000.

User currently offlinedwcontroller From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12799 times:

Can anyone provide the difference in original cost as well as operating cost between a CRJ-1000 and a E190?


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User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12748 times:

Quoting KGRB (Reply 6):

I have heard the opposite. The E175 uses a lot more gas than the CR9, and needs more room to park. Delta has moved many of the E175/E170's onto the shuttle and east coast flights while the CR9 does a lot of long flights (DTW-MTY, SLC-MEM, ATL-islands, etc).


User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11948 times:

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 9):
I hope Delta never orders the CRJ-1000. The 900 is bad enough with a million pink tag bags. I cannot imagine how horrible the 1000 would be. I would hope US carriers would buy Embraer 190s before the CRJ-1000.

I couldn't agree with you more. I've never been on a CR9, but most say that they're not as bad as the CRJ-100/200 (I have been on the latter and I was in pain the entire flight). On the other hand, you have the E-Jets which are probably the most comfortable narrowbodies around. Advantage E-Jet, I think.

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 11):
I have heard the opposite.

That could be true. What I heard about NW was hearsay, and it very well could be different than DL's opinion.

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 11):
needs more room to park

I bet that's more of an issue for PMDL outstations than those of NW. The E-170 (along with the CR9) ended up being the defacto RJ-85 replacement at NW. The 170's length and wingspan are very close to those of the RJ-85. The only big difference is height.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11726 times:
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Quoting FoxDelta (Reply 5):
The CRJ1000 (or CRK or CRX) will not start operations until late January or early February 2011. It has not been certified yet, and its certification is constantly being delayed.

Will Air Nostrum take the CRJ1000 EuroLite (low MTOW) or the extended range versions? FlightGlobal reported once that a European carrier had ordered the EuroLite, and I always thought that was Brit Air, as they mostly fly domestic in France while Air Nostrum use their CRJ900 on longer flights to Italy, Madeira and Canary islands (3-hour flights).

Quoting Gatovolador (Reply 1):
The aircraft will be used, mainliy, for domestic hops.



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User currently offlineKatwspotter From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11380 times:

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 9):

Or even a -700 to ATL...inbound or outbound you have a minimum 40 pink tags if full. which for only having one front bin doesnt work too well.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11320 times:
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Quoting Katwspotter (Reply 14):
Or even a -700 to ATL...inbound or outbound you have a minimum 40 pink tags if full. which for only having one front bin doesnt work too well.

Don't they put bags with pink tags in the rear cargo hold also, or is it just for the underfloor bin?



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User currently offlineacw367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11296 times:

According to the production list at Airlinerlist.com the following are on order

to deliver Orderbook CRJ-1000
20 Air Nostrum
14 Brit Air
20 Lease Corp Int'l Avtn (LCIA)
30 Lufthansa (to be opby Swiss International)
84 Total Ordered

Not sure if the prototype will be converted to one of the production aircraft. Although as the prototype was already converted from a CRJ9 airframe, I think it will not.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5658 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11271 times:

Quoting acw367 (Reply 16):
20 Lease Corp Int'l Avtn (LCIA)

Is this Udvar-hazy's new company?



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User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2157 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11271 times:

Quoting acw367 (Reply 16):
30 Lufthansa (to be opby Swiss International)

I really doubt this is the CRJ-1000, almost certain it is the CSeries order.


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1862 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11247 times:
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Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 15):
Don't they put bags with pink tags in the rear cargo hold also, or is it just for the underfloor bin?

We load them in the forward 2 holds at LH. My record is 42 gate deliveries, which is utter ridiculous. That's what you get with home check in. I think the CR7/9 are wonderful aircraft but on a holiday season feeder flight it can get real tight with 50+ regular bags in the rear hold.



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User currently offlineacw367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11200 times:

Quoting acw367 (Reply 16):
According to the production list at Airlinerlist.com the following are on order

to deliver Orderbook CRJ-1000
20 Air Nostrum
14 Brit Air
20 Lease Corp Int'l Avtn (LCIA)
30 Lufthansa (to be opby Swiss International)
84 Total Ordered
Quoting eicvd (Reply 18):
Quoting acw367 (Reply 16):
30 Lufthansa (to be opby Swiss International)

I really doubt this is the CRJ-1000, almost certain it is the CSeries order.

Having looked again, it does appear that Airlinerlist has mixed CRJ-1000 and C-Series orders.

This June 2009 Bombardier release gives 44 firm orders for CRJ-1000 and 50 orders for C-Series (30 Swiss Intl, 20 LCIA)
http://www2.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_...0_iss_3_2009/BCAU09_Vol20_Iss3.pdf


User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10691 times:

I would say that the order for Lease Corp Int'l Avtn is also for the CSeries:

http://www.lciaviation.com/assets/17...0_Bombardier_CSeries_Jetliners.pdf


IIRC, the only orders left for the CRJ1000 are Air Nostrum and Brit Air. These are pretty solid customers unlikely to go bancrupt (in contrast to myair), but 34 frames from 2 customers is not terribly impressive order book-wise.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10653 times:
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Quoting vfw614 (Reply 21):
IIRC, the only orders left for the CRJ1000 are Air Nostrum and Brit Air. These are pretty solid customers unlikely to go bancrupt (in contrast to myair), but 34 frames from 2 customers is not terribly impressive order book-wise.

According to BBD, the order book is for 49 firm CRJ1000, 35 for Air Nostrum and 14 for Brit Air. And it appears they are eager to take delivery of them, they are mentioned on their websites.



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User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10623 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 22):
According to BBD, the order book is for 49 firm CRJ1000, 35 for Air Nostrum and 14 for Brit Air. And it appears they are eager to take delivery of them, they are mentioned on their websites.

You are correct. Air Nostrum not only added 5 frames to the original order of 15 CRJ1000 by converting 5 CRJ900 options, but also added another 15 to that tally.

Nevertheless, 49 firm orders from just 2 customers is probably not what BBD ad hoped for, although the CRJ1000 is a relatively low cost derivative. Has there been an official estimate by BBD how many they need to sell to break even?


User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10539 times:

I don't know about pricing and operating costs but if airlines listen to their passengers they go for the E-jets. I cannot imagine how LH could order the cramp-jets. It is not like Germans (or Swiss for that matter) are so short and thin and travel without bulky carry-on baggage.

This is my list of favourite regional jets:

1 Embraer E-jets
2 Fokker 100 / 70
3 BaE AVRO jets or Jumbolino

The good old Fokker is still a wonderful machine to fly on. I still have the pleasure many times between DUS and STR and every time I am amazed how comfortable the oldie is.



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25 wjcandee : I recently flew round-trip on a -900NextGen (Mesaba) from LGA-RDU and thought it was a lovely flight. Everything I disliked about the 100/200 was elim
26 msp747 : I have yet to fly on the E-Jet, but I fly the Mesaba 900's frequently. They are a dramatic improvement over the 100/200's, but they are obviously stil
27 Post contains links r2rho : It would really be interesting to have a number. The best thing I could find is this old article from 2007, which estimates development costs at $300
28 fxramper : Is this a viable option for any carrier in the US? AA after a new contract?
29 ZKCIF : Dear Sirs, I sincerely admit I have never flown a CRJ. However, as far as I understand, they have the same cabin width and the fuselage as Dash Q300 a
30 Tangowhisky : One thing that most people do not realize is that the CRJ-1000 will have higher combined airframe and maintenance costs than the Embraer-190. This is
31 JoeCanuck : What exactly are the maintenance differences between the -8 and -10 engines?
32 brons2 : The window seats on any CRJ are hell for tall people. The fuselage curvature forces me over into the next seat. I hate those things and will pay more
33 yenne09 : The CRJ 1000 like the 700 and the 900 have the »Next Gen» improvement which is suppose to improve cabin comfort. The CRJ 705 off Jazz which is a 900
34 sxb : Britair's CRJ-1000 will replace their Fokker 100 fleet (which feels like old Russian jets when you are on board).
35 connies4ever : The CRJ family has a different fuselage width than the Q300/400. While the Q300/400 is not wide enough for a 5-abreast configuration (thankfully), it
36 Post contains images connies4ever : Ya know, in an idle moment I checked the fuse diameters at BBD's website. The Qseries and the CRJ series have the same fuse diameter, 8ft 10in or 2.6
37 Post contains links r2rho : I agree, that is the CRJ-1000's main purpose. Even if it isn't overly profitable, if it can keep a few customers from switching to the E-jets, it wil
38 rikkus67 : ...if you look closely, behind the wing exits, you will see that the 1000 will actually have larger windows. I do believe that this will also be avai
39 Tangowhisky : To begin with the -10 has less compressor and turbine HP stages over the -8. Where the -10 kicks a$$ is that CF34-8E5 first shop visit is at about 9,
40 CRJ900 : And yet, in July LH Group ordered 8 more 86-seat CRJ900NG for CityLine... and Libyan has ordered an additional 3 (+3) CR9 and Estonian has re-ordered
41 FlySSC : Brit'Air / Air France is the launch company for the CRJ1000. The first aircraft will be delivered next month and will start replacing the F100. Ultim
42 planemaker : No need to feel mega-embarassed as that is only at one point on the airframe. Few people know that the Dash 8 has an ovoid fuse cross-section and the
43 vfw614 : Interesting article on the CRK in the new issue of AIR INTERNATIONAL. A point made by Bombardier is that the CR7/CR9/CRK is the more attractive family
44 connies4ever : My conclusion after thinking about the fuse diameter spec and my experience walking in various -8s - much more headroom in the aisle esp., and more s
45 r2rho : I don't know BritAir's F100's but a F100 with a halfway decent cabin beats a CRK hands-down in comfort. ... but it does make sense to operate an all-
46 KingAir200 : Interesting. Your experience may vary from mine, of course, but I don't ever remember a situation where we couldn't fit all of the bags on.
47 connies4ever : Had my clubs left behind a couple of times on UAX DEN-PSP CR2 flights. Told by ground staff that this was pretty common during the winte rmonths. Clu
48 davs5032 : -Makes me wonder why they didn't replace them with CS100's, which are much more similar to F100's in many ways, including fuselage size. Maybe they a
49 Post contains links realsim : Are you sure? According to different sources, Air Nostrum is the launch customer. http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...-Air-Nostrum-TSX-BBD.A-10035
50 laca773 : DL already has flight crew pay scales in place for the E90/95. I hope we'll here of an order soon. This will allow more longer, thin routes to open u
51 aerobus12 : Hadn't thay ordered C-series aircraft?
52 Viscount724 : LH hasn't ordered any CRJ1000s. The order mentioned above is for the Cseries to be operated by LX to replace their Avro RJ100s. LH did order 8 more C
53 CRJ900 : From Bombardier's website, dated November 10, the CRJ1000 has been awarded Aircraft Type Certificate from both Transport Canada and EASA. Does that me
54 Tangowhisky : I checked the press release and there is a lot of words about the CRJ success story and some on the certification, but no mention whatsoever on deliv
55 realsim : I suppose. I can see Air Nostrum has CRK operations scheduled on 30JAN11, although previously they were scheduled to begin on Dec 2010.
56 Post contains images KGRB : Didn't RA say that they weren't buying anything other than used MD-90s for the next few years? But I do hope you're right. The E-190/195 would be flo
57 laca773 : I'm sure they would offer them a nice deal, but on the other hand, if AA wants to use a 100 seat a/c over longer, thin routes, notably from ORD, to p
58 malaysia : I packed like 65+ regular bags and 20-25 carry on in a CRJ-200 that was pretty bad. luckily most were small check ins.
59 BAforever : According to the Brit Air website: Actualités - En décembre 2010, Brit Air recevra son premier CRJ 1000 en remplacement des Fokker 100. Trois autre
60 dldtw1962 : I have been on the Skywest CRJ-900 this summer. My flight was from SLC to YVR. It was a big imporvment over the the 100/200's. And after flying on the
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