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Qantas... Why No 744F's?  
User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Why doesn't Qantas use their own fleet of 747-400F's? It seems they've been leasing 2 from Atlas for years now. If they have such consistent demand wouldn't 2 747F's be a good option? And they have plenty of 747 qualified pilots.

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24825 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Well its only cost $150mil+ to have purchased a 744F.
The ACMI leasing lets them get aircraft without any of the ownership headaches.

Its likely the whole QF freight business model would be very different if it had to support the added ownership and operational cost of having your own equipment. As I recall in 2005 or 2006 QF did review getting its own widebodies but the numbers and business risk did not make sense.

So for now the leases work better. They also have ATSG 767SF freighter leased from the US.

p.s.- its 3 Atlas birds they currently use.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4856 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

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If I am not mistaken....

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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

Why dont they paint them in QF livery?

User currently offlinetullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

I believe it is called "sticking to your knitting."

QF knows that Atlas knows far more about freight and logistics than it ever will and its arrangement with Atlas enables it flexibility that a fledging operation of it own never could.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4856 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):

More than likely course it ain't operated by QF crew?



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User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Why dont they paint them in QF livery?

That would be nice, similar to what BA is doing with the 748. Are there aircraft dedicated to the QF contract or are they moved about from contract to contract?


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

I wouldn't be surprised if Atlas decided it was best for them to keep their own paint and advertise their own company while flying someone elses freight. Thanks everyone for the answers.

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