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DL Signs LOI For An Additional B757-200  
User currently offlineairbuske From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 15471 times:

Sorry I don't have a press release or an official link.

Aircraft is MSN 25624 / N624AG. Delivery scheduled for November 1, 2010. My guess is this aircraft is to replace N621DL (MSN 22911) which was returned to the lessor earlier this month.

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User currently offlinebnatraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 412 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15245 times:
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This ship was re-registered F-GTIP on 8/13/2009

User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 971 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15240 times:
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It looks like that aircraft is an 8 door model. I wonder if they will use the 5500-style configuration or have an oddball one just for this aircraft.

User currently offlinejetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3365 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15190 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 2):
It looks like that aircraft is an 8 door model. I wonder if they will use the 5500-style configuration or have an oddball one just for this aircraft.

Coule be going into ETOPS configuration. I'd almost bet on it.


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14987 times:

If it does go into the ETOPS configuration, I wonder if it will get the Panasonic Eco 9i monitors in Y. This should save a little on weight.

EDIT: According to Airfleets.net, this aircraft was built in 1993, originally flying for AeroMexico.

[Edited 2010-10-18 09:09:21]


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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14925 times:

Quoting jetlanta (Reply 3):
Coule be going into ETOPS configuration. I'd almost bet on it.

Winglet equipped already too.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
Also, does anyone know when this aircraft was built? The FAA Registry doesn't give any info.

1993.



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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14929 times:

per the photo forum looks like an aeromexico bird built 1993 with pix of it going thru svc at the DL mtc center a few years back...with wing tips.

User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14905 times:

Hopefully DL updates the PSUs on this aircraft to the ones like on most of the PMDL 752 fleet, since this one is likely to have the older style 757 PSUs like the 5500-series 757s. I think the newer style PSUs (which have also been used on the 737NG and 753) came around 1995.

[Edited 2010-10-18 09:13:31]


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User currently offlineacelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 857 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14792 times:

Are DL in the market for 757 frames then? If so just how many are they looking for?

I don't think there are many parked up anywhere are there? Plus FDX
taking what they can get...



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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2194 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14679 times:

Hopefully they will configure it similar to the ex-AA/TW birds. Those are probably the nicest 757s (bar COs) out there.

User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14420 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 9):
Hopefully they will configure it similar to the ex-AA/TW birds. Those are probably the nicest 757s (bar COs) out there.

Agreed. I haven't flown on one since DL got them, but while they were at AA they were a definite upgrade from the usual AA 757.

As I've said several times before, I think the real reason AA got rid of the ex-TWA 757s is because they made the rest of AA's 757 fleet look bad in comparison!  



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13145 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 10):
Agreed. I haven't flown on one since DL got them, but while they were at AA they were a definite upgrade from the usual AA 757.

As I've said several times before, I think the real reason AA got rid of the ex-TWA 757s is because they made the rest of AA's 757 fleet look bad in comparison!

Well, the ex-TWA 752s did had flip-down LCDs when they were with AA, vs. the CRTs over the aisles on most of AA's 752s. However, AA never installed the overhead bin extensions on the ex-TWA 752s as they did on the rest of the fleet.

When DL got them, DL initially kept the AA configuration temporarily, but with leather seat covers. Eventually DL installed overhead bin extensions, Panasonic eFX AVOD, and new seats (Recaro CL 4420 in BusinessElite, Weber 5751 in Y).



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User currently offlinecloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12060 times:

Quoting airbuske (Thread starter):

Aircraft is MSN 25624 / N624AG. Delivery scheduled for November 1, 2010. My guess is this aircraft is to replace N621DL (MSN 22911) which was returned to the lessor earlier this month.

Why was it returned to the lessor? I though DL was getting rid of the leases and buying the aircraft outright. If so where is this aircraft going? FedEx perhaps?



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11999 times:

Always glad to see airlines operate/acquire new aircraft (though and know that DL and the 757 go back 25 years!); just curious about the legal aspects; usually, I associate (rightly or wrongly - and it's probably the latter!) Letters of Intent with the acquisition of new aircraft; haven't heard it associated with a second aircraft. What legal standing does such a letter have; does money change hands, i.e. is it the equivalent of putting down a deposit on it, as if to say "we want to take this aircraft; don't lease it to anyone else"?

User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1190 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11632 times:

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 8):
Are DL in the market for 757 frames then? If so just how many are they looking for?

I think Delta should be in the market to replace the horrible "75A"'s that we aquired from NW....
too many mtc issues 


User currently offlinewrenchon727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11412 times:

Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 12):
Quoting airbuske (Thread starter):

Aircraft is MSN 25624 / N624AG. Delivery scheduled for November 1, 2010. My guess is this aircraft is to replace N621DL (MSN 22911) which was returned to the lessor earlier this month.

Why was it returned to the lessor? I though DL was getting rid of the leases and buying the aircraft outright. If so where is this aircraft going? FedEx perhaps?

N621DL is going to FedEx


User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10781 times:

You will continue to see Delta exercising their option to acquire lower-cost used aircraft to help build up fleet scale (although not much needed with the 75 fleet).

Cheaper than a new build and builds up cap lost as leased birds get returned.



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User currently onlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 6534 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10754 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 14):
I think Delta should be in the market to replace the horrible "75A"'s that we aquired from NW....
too many mtc issues

What mtc issues have the 75As been having comapred to other 757s?


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10002 times:

I actually also wonder: what will be the ship number of this aircraft? Presumably it should be 621 as it is replacing ship 621 that has been returned to the lessor. However, due to its different exit layout, it would be an oddball in the 600-series aircraft as it would be the only one with the 8 door layout. Perhaps it should be grouped in the 5500-series aircraft as ship 5535, or if DL ETOPSes this aircraft, it would be ship 6818.


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User currently offlineCFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9279 times:

Didn't NW have some 8 door a/c in their fleet?

User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9192 times:

Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 19):
Didn't NW have some 8 door a/c in their fleet?

Yep, the 5500-series. As I said in my previous post, if this aircraft goes to the domestic fleet, it could be designated as ship 5535.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6933 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9012 times:

Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 1):
This ship was re-registered F-GTIP on 8/13/2009

For Eagle Aviation France apparently.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8992 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 18):

DL does have a few 'NW' ending N-numbers reserved for 75s. It's possible they may use one of those.



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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 971 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8901 times:
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DL won't re-register it if it already has an N-number, it will stay N624AG. As for the fleet number, I agree it will be 6818 if it goes into ETOPS configuration, but if not it could potentially be an entirely new range (6600 maybe?). I am doubtful 5500/5600 will be used for anything other than PMNW 757s, even if the interior configuration is similar to the 5500s.

User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8901 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 22):
DL does have a few 'NW' ending N-numbers reserved for 75s. It's possible they may use one of those.

I don't see DL chaning the registration number, considering that DL has a history of keeping existing registration numbers. The ex-ATA 752s kept their ATA regs and the ex-TWA/AA 752s kept their TWA regs. Also, the prototype 764ER was registered N825MH by Boeing, and DL registered the rest of their 764ERs N826MH-N845MH for consistency.



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25 PSU.DTW.SCE : Ok seriously, all we supposedly know is that DL signed a letter of intent for a 752. People are already speculating about PTV type, fleet number, and
26 alitalia744 : If the a/c enters ETOPS TATL config it will be in the 75E form vs. 75A from a cap/interior configuration standpoint. TBD on the actual role given the
27 KGRB : I hope all of the users that whine and moan about how DL needs to "replace their old, inefficient 752s" read this thread. This is another one of those
28 1337Delta764 : Well then, why did DL upgrade the PSUs on most of their MD-88 and the older PMDL 752 fleet then? Those 1980s-style PSUs definitely give away the airc
29 burnsie28 : Agreed, and just a minor point the 75A's are all 5600 birds, of which while at NW the 757's had very few issues. There are some 75A's that are out of
30 n7371f : To me what's interesting is 1) what role the aircraft will play but more importantly, 2) how does this acquisition effect the remaining 757-232's and
31 Post contains images KGRB : Yeah, but they haven't done anything to the 5500s and indications are that those birds are going to be around for a while. Perhaps they'll plan some
32 aviationbuff08 : I'd rather see Delta spend the $$ to refurbish the cabin with new seats and AVOD of these "75A" ( Ex-NWA ETOPS 757) to match capacity and comfort of
33 FlyASAGuy2005 : That I was sure about. They always keep the N number but put a fleet # on it that will keep it in line with similar a/c for scheduling purposes. I wa
34 n7371f : Comfort? The 75A's are far more comfortable in coach than anything else DL flies. The 75A had 3 rows in Y removed for 144 seats before the merger. At
35 DALMD88 : You can only buy out the lease if the owner is willing to sell it for your price. Most of the lease buy backs are leases that were started during Chp
36 1337Delta764 : Well, DL hasn't installed extended overhead bins, nor have they replaced any of the signage on these aircraft. DL has stated they plan on installing
37 nwaesc : I don't mean to sound dense, but is there a reason an LOI for 1 airframe is such a big deal?
38 1337Delta764 : Well, it proves that DL is in no rush to replace their 757 fleet. Basically, DL is trading in a 1986-built aircraft (N621DL) for a 1993-built one (N6
39 bobnwa : I agree with nwaesc, this a big deal why?
40 1337Delta764 : Well, in several threads, many have been suggesting that DL should replace some of their older 752s either with 739ERs or A321s. I think that the acq
41 FlyASAGuy2005 : It may not be a big deal to you 2 but it truck an interest with one member and others replied. I don't post in a lot of threads for this very reason.
42 akelley728 : I think that they are replacing a non-ETOPS bird with an ETOPS one is interesting. Plus speculating what configuration this plane will eventually win
43 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : That is generally how threads end up running. We go from a simple question to maybe 3/4/5 different discussions-"digging deeper" I call it. I seldom
44 wrenchon727 : Vx Capital Partners Closes Forward Sale Transaction March, 2009 - Vx Capital Partners completed the forward sale of three Boeing 757-200s. The aircra
45 timf : Does anyone know the registrations of the other 757s that Delta is returning?
46 CompensateMe : It's a single aircraft. Really, all this acquisition indicates is that DL is seeking immediate capacity. Nor do I believe that DL's in the market to
47 airbuske : N619DL and N622DL.
48 n7371f : 622 has been out in Marana for over a year now stored.
49 wrenchon727 : N622DL was ferried to SAT for MX from MZJ in April 2010 and put back in service.
50 akelley728 : Seriously? Is it the Bluebox AI system or something else that hasn't been publicly released yet?
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