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SJC -- Future Hub For AS/QX?  
User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4717 times:

I read in the thread regarding AC giving up slots at SNA that QX is on the waiting list of airlines to be awarded slots. This picqued my curiousity and made me wonder where they would serve from SNA, and the most logical conclusion that would offer the most benefit seems to be SJC. Don't know if that's the case, but that's just my hunch.

With the recent additions of SJC-AUS/LAX/LIH/OGG/KOA/GDL/SMF/SJD/MMH/GEG, it seems that an increased focus is being put on SJC. I don't know the economics or how well it's working, but there seems to be a lot of logic behind it. SJC has a brand new terminal (but has that led to higher airport fees?). It serves the Bay Area, located in the heart of a growing city; that's geographically suited to offer better north-south connections for those who don't live close to the Pacific-Northwest.

My question is, how far will the SJC expansion go? Will it be turned into, say, a full fledged hub complete with a pilot/FA base? Or will it stay as the current status of... focus city (if it's even to that point yet)?

No matter what happens, my gut tells me there's more to come. Maybe I'm wrong, but if others agree, what routes might we see added?

SJC-SAN seems logical, as it connects SJC with another recent focus of some minor expansion at AS.
SJC-HNL also seems logical, filling out the Hawaii service, though it would directly compete with HA. That hasn't stopped them in SEA/PDX though.

SJC-SBA/LGB - these seem like logical solutions to the dilemma of what QX will do when they retire the CRJ-700s and the Q400s are ill-suited to fly to these destinations from SEA.

SJC could also allow QX to start service to more communities in California that might be uneconomical from SEA, such as SBP, BFL, OXR, and SMX. If I recall correctly, quite a few towns applied for SCAD grants for QX service to SJC.

I suppose SJC-CLD could be done as a pre-emptive strike against California Pacific.

The feed from these flights could also help make potential routes northward profitable, such as, perhaps, EUG, RDD, ACV, YVR, and ANC; and maybe even the East Coast and additional Mexico flying.

Just some thoughts going through my head, curious as to what you all might think.  

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport

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User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

I think you may be over thinking things a bit. Alaska doesn't even have any airplanes coming that will grow the company until 2012 and then it's only 3 frames. I suspect SJC could possibly get one or two more new cities between QX and AS and that is probably just about it. Just my thoughts...

User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4551 times:
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I could see AS/QX developing a mini-hub at SJC, but nothing like what AA or QQ had in the past. But some SJC to Southern California destinations...I can see some of that happening, now that QX might have a buyer for 8 CRJ-700's and the acceleration of 8 Q400's from Bombardier.

User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 1):
I think you may be over thinking things a bit. Alaska doesn't even have any airplanes coming that will grow the company until 2012 and then it's only 3 frames. I suspect SJC could possibly get one or two more new cities between QX and AS and that is probably just about it. Just my thoughts...

I probably am, but it does seem to my idle brain like there might be a bit of an opportunity here. An opportunity to capitalize on SJC by filling some minor existing holes and building up a city which is geographically suited to providing other convenient north-south connecting options for people who don't live close to SEA or PDX. And such a move would put pressure on WN at an opportune time, who's going to be in the process of digesting FL.

But like I say, just idle speculation.  

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):

SJC-SAN seems logical, as it connects SJC with another recent focus of some minor expansion at AS.

I'd like to see a SJC-SAN-MIA thru flight on AS seeing that AA is not interested in anything to the MIA hub from the west coast that isn't LAX or SFO.



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User currently offlineflyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4344 times:

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
My question is, how far will the SJC expansion go? Will it be turned into, say, a full fledged hub complete with a pilot/FA base? Or will it stay as the current status of... focus city (if it's even to that point yet)?

No way it can currently turn into a hub due to lack of available gates. WN already occupies 80% of the new terminal, with Delta operating off 1 gate, and AS off of three. I believe there are a couple more gates available at the very end of Terminal A but that is so far away it wouldn't make sense.

Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
SJC has a brand new terminal (but has that led to higher airport fees?).

No, all the airlines actually began paying higher leases over a year before the new terminal was even completed. I think it might be going up a bit more due to some airlines having been lost since that time.

One thing to consider is that if AS wanted to front the cost of a bond to expand Terminal B and or if the airport meets certain triggers with passenger volumes, then the airport will expand the terminal with a new south concourse. Then possibly, I could see a bigger AS operation.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7867 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4090 times:

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 1):
Alaska doesn't even have any airplanes coming that will grow the company until 2012 and then it's only 3 frames.

They'll have plenty of aircraft when DL merges with them   



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4085 times:
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Quoting flyibaby (Reply 5):
No way it can currently turn into a hub due to lack of available gates. WN already occupies 80% of the new terminal, with Delta operating off 1 gate, and AS off of three

My thoughts exactly. AS operates from Gates 26, 27 and.QX through Gate 28. The Gate 28 boarding door serves 3 parking spots, 28, 29 and 30 for the QX operation. So in total there are 5 spots. However, there is only one boarding podium/computer at 28. Occasionally there are 3 QX aircraft on the ground at once, and it has been a challenge to operate through the one gate, let alone board two or more aircraft at the same time.

My gut feeling is we will see more QX expansion at SJC. But short of moving to the end of the A terminal (no thanks!) something will need to be done to allow for expanded operations in the current space.

Tomas SJC



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User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3862 times:

It seems like SJC might have some more opportunities for them probably based on how successful these flights go.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 6):
They'll have plenty of aircraft when DL merges with them

Alaska wants to stay solo if it has its way. I think the much much more likely scenario if they merge it will be with AA. This would let AA dismantle SJC again.


User currently onlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6123 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 7):

Tomas, can you guys use 26,27 for QX flights?



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days ago) and read 3047 times:

SEA seems to be Alaska-Horizon´s main hub operation, or better yet a strong focus city with PDX a close second. AS uses LAX as a type of hub for its Mexico operations. I can´t see San Jose fiting into their plans as a hub. Till about 2004 QX had service from San Jose to Tucson which orignated in Portland. It seems to me that AS is less interested in a hub operation and more interested in electing routes that will produce profit. For example, the expanded Hawaii flying and their initial and continuting service to various Mexican cities.

User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2878 times:
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Quoting as739x (Reply 9):
Tomas, can you guys use 26,27 for QX flights?

We could, but as of now there is only one turboway, which is connected to the jetway at 28.



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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2646 times:
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Quoting DesertAir (Reply 10):
I can´t see San Jose fiting into their plans as a hub. Till about 2004 QX had service from San Jose to Tucson which orignated in Portland.

I think SJC and SMF could play an important role in the life of QX as it reduces, and eventually eliminates, the CRJ-700's. These two airports provides a popular intermediate point for the Q400's to Southern CA. SJC has a little more opportunities for connections than SMF currently.

AS/QX uses the gates at the far south end of the new terminal...with two or more ramp spots for the Q400's. At least connections are pretty easy through SJC.


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