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User currently offlineAAairplane From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13208 times:

I flew in a US 757 from PHX to OGG this summer, and the cabin, in my opinion needs urgently to be updated. The seats are old and covered in cloth. The entertainment consists of "over-aisle" CRT screens, many of which do not have a very good picture quality. The bulkheads are covered in America West style cloth which looks quite dated. Although these aircraft are gradually being replaced by A320 family, they are needed to perform the Hawaiian runs because they are the only airplanes that have the range for the route other than widebodies which are too large. They also play a fairly large role in the European network since they are used on routes to smaller cities. Due to the fact that these airplanes are the only planes suited to many of the routes, and no replacement has been ordered, I think the cabin needs to be refurbished. Anyone with any information please share. Thanks!

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User currently offlinemacsog6 From Singapore, joined Jan 2010, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13178 times:
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Quoting AAairplane (Thread starter):
and the cabin, in my opinion needs urgently to be updated

This is not confined to US. The interior in many of AA's 757's is pretty long in the tooth as well. The F product on domestic AA 757's looks like something from 1985.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13132 times:

I will probably get    but threads like these drive me nuts. These carriers don't have an infinite bank account. US has been doing a pretty good job since the merger updating their cabins. I rode on quite a few 320s and 319s that have gotten mods and the blue seats and updated lighting is very welcoming. To boot, if you're lucky enough to ride on a 190, these are the nicest IMO. Lot's of legroom in the bag with seats that seem to be wider than the standard and the cabins are usually spotless.

I say all of that to say that we need to give them some time. AA is in the middle of mods as is US, UA, and DL. In the mean time, bring a good book or your laptop and enjoy the ride...



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User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12982 times:

Quoting AAairplane (Thread starter):
I flew in a US 757 from PHX to OGG this summer, and the cabin, in my opinion needs urgently to be updated. The seats are old and covered in cloth. The entertainment consists of "over-aisle" CRT screens, many of which do not have a very good picture quality. The bulkheads are covered in America West style cloth which looks quite dated

FlyASAGuy2005 is right, but if you don't like it then fly another carrier...I know Hawaiian does service to PHX as well as any other US airline...



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12891 times:

Unfortunately, you were on a West ETOPS bird, all East 757s have been updated with an Envoy class cabin up front, new CRT monitors, new overhead bins, new bulkheads, new PSUs, and leather seat covers in Y.

I cannot find any pictures, but I found some videos that feature it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jB_73wOZ-8&feature=related (at :42, you can see what I mean about the PSUs and the overhead bins)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhz-6nw5wz0



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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12836 times:

Quoting macsog6 (Reply 1):
The F product on domestic AA 757's looks like something from 1985.

Do you have a picture to show us what you mean?


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12788 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 5):
Do you have a picture to show us what you mean?

This type of cabin, I presume:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ord2sxm/4149774536/


User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1967 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12754 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 2):
I will probably get but threads like these drive me nuts.

It's a fair question since US has to compete against the products other airlines offer, so it's not really that crass to inquire if refurbishment is in the works.


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12718 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 6):
This type of cabin, I presume:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ord2sxm...4536/

If the plane was built in 1998, how can the seats appear to be 1985ish?


User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12539 times:
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Quoting washingtonian (Reply 8):
If the plane was built in 1998, how can the seats appear to be 1985ish?

Because when you Google "leather chair 1985" you get this: http://www.metroretrofurniture.com/i...oll/ad14knollexecutivechairs02.jpg

And they kind of look similar, minus the coloring!

...joking (semi-joking) aside, they look 1985ish because they are outdated, ugly, worn, dilapidated and completely lacking innovation of any sort.


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12402 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 8):
If the plane was built in 1998, how can the seats appear to be 1985ish?

When airlines place aircraft orders, the deliveries span many years. I'm not saying that seat style was chosen in 1985, but all planes from the same order will typically have the same cabin as originally chosen, even if it is years after the choice.


User currently offlinebdl2stl2pvg From China, joined Jun 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12287 times:

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 10):
I'm not saying that seat style was chosen in 1985, but all planes from the same order will typically have the same cabin as originally chosen



Actually 1985 is very close. By late 1984 AA started refurbishing the 727s with a very similar seat. Covering, leather pattern, width. The MD-80s had the same seats. I am not certain if the MD-80s started with the leather seats originally, but by 1985 they had them. AA was very consistent with their domestic interiors then. 727s, MD-80s, F-100s, A-300s, 2 class DC-10s and even Business class on the 767s had extremely similar looking seats to what is shown in the photo. So, 1984/1985 would be spot on.


User currently offlineaairbussju From Puerto Rico, joined Sep 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 12067 times:

AAirplane, let me ask you, how much did you pay for your airfare? It's usually the ones who pay the least who criticize and complain the most....

macsog6, when was the last time u flew an AA757? Those are being retrofitted:

http://airplane-pics.blogspot.com/20...n-airlines-business-class-lie.html

Happy flying!



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User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2083 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 12052 times:

Pay peanut, get monkey...

User currently offlineaairbussju From Puerto Rico, joined Sep 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 12041 times:

FlyASAGuy   


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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4520 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 12005 times:

Quoting aairbussju (Reply 12):
macsog6, when was the last time u flew an AA757? Those are being retrofitted:

http://airplane-pics.blogspot.com/20....html

The seat shown in the link provided will NOT be on the domestic 757 fleet... and that's what macsog6 was referring to, the domestic fleet.


User currently offlineaairbussju From Puerto Rico, joined Sep 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Yes they will....give it time. The process is not a quick one, since they can't take ALL 124 757s OTS at the same time to be refurbished. The ones already retrofitted are used for the MOST PART on Int'l flights, but also on some domestic...


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User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6002 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11967 times:

Quoting aairbussju (Reply 16):
Yes they will....give it time.



No they won't...those seats will only be on the 18 or so ETOPS 752s in AAs fleet...the rest will receive a seat similar to what's on the newer 738s.



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11950 times:

Quoting AAairplane (Thread starter):

There are four West aircraft that now have updated interiors, which consist of leather seat covers, new bulkheads, overhead LCDs, and bin extensions. It's funny that you bring this up, because there was a recent decision to upgrade the remaining West 757 fleet with these interior mods (originally it was only supposed to be ships 908-910, which received the mods when they were fitted with winglets about two years ago). 906 actually just got back from Macon with the upgrades:


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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11916 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 18):
906 actually just got back from Macon with the upgrades:

Wow, it's amazing what a little bit of cleanup can do for these old birds. That looks 110% better.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5669 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11865 times:

Quoting AAairplane (Thread starter):
They also play a fairly large role in the European network since they are used on routes to smaller cities.

All of the East birds doing the European runs have already been updated.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 4):
Unfortunately, you were on a West ETOPS bird, all East 757s have been updated with an Envoy class cabin up front,

The West 752s will most likely never get Envoy.

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 19):
Wow, it's amazing what a little bit of cleanup can do for these old birds.

It's quite a bit more than a little bit of cleanup.... but yes, they don't look as old  



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User currently offline580fa From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 11852 times:

Fly Hawaiian Airlines. Beautiful airplanes, comfy seats, and crews with ALOHA...

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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8629 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 11825 times:

I think US and others are slowly realizing that you are only as good as your worst aircraft. Just like a hotel is only as good as its worst room. That holds true in lots of industries, but especially travel. If they want their brand perception to improve, they need to target their least attractive facilities and upgrade them for better style and function.

User currently offlineChopChop767 From Italy, joined Aug 2010, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 11770 times:

Wow, those new seats do look very comfortable. The leather looks pretty padded and plush, more so than delta, which was my first reaction when I saw the seats. Great work US.
I know the AA 757 seats are not the prettiest to look at, but they're so well worn, they are really comfortable. I don't know if that's a good thing though.
Regardless, flighty has a great point, which it seems US is fin a
Ly waking up to...



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User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (3 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

Slightly off topic but does anyone know if US Airways has done these same updates with the new seats on the Boeing 737-400 fleet? I am flying one to CLT next month and was curious what to expect.

25 bahadir : Flew PIT-CLT few days ago and it had the old interior.. I think you need to pay $10 more for your ticket.. I just find it amazing that airline pax al
26 tjcab : Irrelevant. If a seat is crappy, then it's crappy no matter what is paid for it. So it's not OK to complain if you don't pay full price? hell, if i b
27 Post contains links mah584jr : I really don't know how one can complain when US 757s offer takeoff sounds like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRrfvEzxZBE http://www.youtube.c
28 USAirALB : All 734s have new leather seat covers in Y and F. Some have new bulkheads. Haha, that photo wasn't on the database yesterday. Looks like they didnt a
29 wn676 : This one does have the LCD monitors, but I'm not sure about the other three.
30 Oak522 : Do all of the 733s have the refurbished interiors as well? I flew PIT-CLT in late June on a 73X and the FC seats were still the grey, square type I re
31 wn676 : I'm not aware of any -300s (East or West) that have the refurbished interiors. They will all be retired next year, so there was no big incentive spen
32 AAairplane : I know that you get what you pay for, and for a little more money you could fly an airline with nicer planes, but I really wasn't criticizing the airp
33 Soxfan : The new 757 interior in that photo definitely looks nicer. One thing I've noticed about the 757's I've been on with many US airlines is that the quali
34 AAairplane : It does look a little narrow...probably partly the angle though. Maybe it means the seats are wider so there is less room for the aisle! That interio
35 FlyASAGuy2005 : The isle looks about right to me. Just wide enough for a car to pass, just like most to all 757s I've riden on.
36 Adam T. : Thanks for the information - not sure why someone else said that they had the old interior. Anyone have any pictures of the new interior on the 734?
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