spchamp1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 87 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13458 times:
Press release tomorrow. I wonder how they will staff this station if it is seasonal. Rumor has it this will be LGB exclusive. Now JetBlue needs to add a winter seasonal to DEN from LGB and I will be happy.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2614 posts, RR: 31 Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13067 times:
WOW! I certainly did not see this one coming. B6 has been tinkering with its LGB schedules a lot lately, so I figured they had something up their sleeve...but I was thinking more along the lines of EWR or MCO, not ANC!
This is really great news for both LGB and ANC. This gives LGB a very unique destination that will appeal to a far greater customer base in Greater LA than the usual BOS/ORD/AUS/SEA etc. Meanwhile, ANC gets yet another popular LCC. That airport has done really well lately - UA came back with service to all three hubs it used to serve, US introduced PHL flights, CO added competition to the ANC-PDX route, AS introduced convenient nonstops to Hawaii, etc. Let's hope they continue to keep up the great work up there!
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1796 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12972 times:
Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 18): I believe AS also has an ANC departure to SEA at around 1am. Now B6 does. Why 1am?
It's how the timezones work out. AS typically has a 12, 1230, 1, 130, 2, and 230am departure to SEA in the summer. These flights are PACKED. Folks use them as connections out of SEA. So, you fly BRW/OME/FAI-ANC-SEA-EWR/DCA/PHX etc etc. They also have a 1a PDX, and SFO departure. I think the LA flights usually leave at 8a and 5p (midnight arrival at LAX). Good to see some competition on SoCal-ANC.
These 1a flights to SEA are miserable. Too short to get any good quality sleep. The airport is a total zoo, since everyone leaves ANC between 11p and 2a. I prefer the 11a departures. Airport is much quieter. I can enjoy a good steak at Club Paris, get some drinks in downtown ANC the night before and take my time getting to the airport. I arrive home late at night, but that's a lot better than landing at 10a and being a zombie.
AWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1492 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12928 times:
So, if the transcons routinely have to fuel stop on some days because the 320's don't have the legs to make it (winds, temps, etc), how on earth is this one gonna make it non-stop on a tank? It's not like they're gonna have a boatload of airfields to choose from.
25 tymnbalewne: Pity this is seasonal as I'd love to try it should B6 offer "All You Can Jet" again next September.
26 AA737-823: Because it's not a transcon. Transcons run east-west, i.e. INTO the winds in one direction. ANC-LGB and vice versa is almost due north-south- no issu
27 Carfield: I saw Anchorage listed on the reservation but not available for sale yet! I will definitely do the inaugural flight on Jetblue! Congrats, Blue Tail! C
28 TK787: Good Luck to B6. I was on an AS ANC-LAX this past August and the loads were a bit over 50%. It was a red eye and strangely shorter than expected. IIRC
29 jetbluefan1: Wow! Talk about a curve ball from B6 - definitely did not see this one coming. Really nice to see B6 think outside the box on this one. And, also real
30 icebird757: Nothing, there was a spare slot not being used from what I was told.
31 MaverickM11: and end a couple months later ...long haul, low fare, highly seasonal, nearly 100% local, with next to no presence on the West Coast? If this makes i
32 John: Has B6 obtained more departure slots out of LGB?
33 enilria: I suspect this is true, I've heard they have been evaluating it from credible sources. I agree. It will suck. Even if it didn't, AS will make sure it
34 jetbluefan1: Press release was issued. Plus, check out the sale fares: http://jetblue.com/deals/new-service/?intcmp=HPAnchorage20102710 B6 has a nice sized followi
35 Frostbite: Never saw this one coming. Too bad they're not throwing in a tag-on to Fairbanks. Would that be cool, or what!
36 SurfandSnow: Long haul? No big deal for an airline that flies tons of transcons, Northeast-Caribbean, and even down into South America. Low fare? For now it is, b
37 jetMARC: Maybe, as with CapeAir in BOS, we'll ink some sort of deal with PennAir in ANC...
38 MaverickM11: Operationally its not a problem, but in terms of costs it's tough. B6 used to operate 6-7 daily JFK OAK/LGB flights. Now they have two. F9 also has a
39 spchamp1: Keep in mind that most tech stops for fuel are planned. If a tech stop was needed going to ANC then we would stop in any of the Bay Area cities, PDX,
40 enilria: AS has a large hub in ANC even if they do scheme a way back into LGB. I wouldn't write that off. There could be some sort of transaction AS could do
41 hatbutton: Unlikely. Penair codeshares with AS. If Penair hasn't codeshared with anyone else that flies into ANC, I find it hard to believe they would with B6.
42 junction: The sale fare is definitely going to make AS mad, but otherwise they shouldn’t care too much about this. In summer there is service to Anchorage fro
43 ASFlyer: I agree with most of what you say but this part couldn't be more wrong. LAX-ANC is a much stronger position then LGB. LGB may appeal to most of the l
44 ASFlyer: I'm guessing not if Penair wants to keep their lucrative Alaska contracts.
45 Airport: If AS weren't busy moving their operations in EWR, I'd say now's a perfect time to move New York City operations to JFK. That would provide for far mo
46 B6JFKH81: The only thing I don't like about this is that for someone on the east coast to make this trip, they will not want to go all the way south to LGB only
47 junction: On the CO flights to ANC from IAH, SEA and PDX they have to do the same, as DirectTV only works for about 15 mintues north of SEA.
48 woodsboy: Those 11p to 2am departures are not only in the summer (people do actually live in Alaska year round!?!) you can find that the busiest part of each an
49 Viscount724: But don't Alaskans want to escape the winters by flying south? I would have thought nonstop service to Southern California would be popular with ANC
50 burnsie28: How many restrictions is this flight going to take with the shorter LGB runways?
51 B6JFKH81: Why would this have restrictions? B6 operates transcon flights out of LGB with full loads and cargo bins all the time.
52 chrisair: I'd hardly call 1x JFK-SEA/PDX and 2x JFK-OAK "convenient." Especially when some are red-eyes. Convenient to me means multiple departures, like SFO-J
53 BOStonsox: Wow, this route really came out of nowhere. This is their fourth domestic destination started from one city, the second seasonal city, the first seaso
54 MNMncrcnwjr: I'd opt for a quick shot to ATL, DTW, ORD, MSP and then to ANC from the east coast .. cut at least six hours off ...
55 MDW22L31C: Can a A320 from LGB make it to ANC if so why no LGB-HNL?
56 jfklganyc: "Can a A320 from LGB make it to ANC if so why no LGB-HNL?" East-West winds mean the need for more fuel on the trip to Hawaii. Plus Island Reserve. The
57 burnsie28: The same reason my flight ANC-SLC on a 757 was weight restricted, winds, we had a 160 mph head wind all the way down from ANC to SLC.
58 BOStonsox: I remember reading that B6 was going to announce a seventh interline partner soon. I wonder if it has anything to do with this? Nobody's really there
59 PlanesNTrains: With just half a million people in the entire state, it would be hard to maintain year round service for anyone other than Alaska Airlines and their
60 ridgid727: I know that AS makes exceptional offers to get Alaska residents to spend their annual "permanaent Fund" money with AS. Each state of Alaska resident
61 BOStonsox: ATL had service to OAK as well, although they may not ahve started at the same time. Early on B6 may have had flights to only JFK or LGB from some de
62 spchamp1: The same can be said for us west coasters that want to go to CUN. I've always said that it would be nice to have a connection to CUN via LAS or AUS.
63 wedgetail737: I tend to agree. AS provides much better connections via SEA and ORD to ANC and beyond. But if the price is right, passengers will fly B6 to ANC via
64 as739x: LGB runway 30/12 is 10,000ft. Should be no issue.
65 NYCFlyer: From LAS or AUS you could conveniently take AA/CO via DFW/IAH.
66 burnsie28: Also NW tried running MSP-ANC with Airbus aircraft back in the day and LGB is only about 100 miles closer... the Airbus often would have to make fuel
67 SurfandSnow: Wonder when the route map will get updated to show ANC. Certainly will be interesting to see how they fit everything from ANC all the way to BGI and B
68 icebird757: If you start in LAS, you go backwards if you go to DFW/IAH versus going to LGB. Not until the costs of canadian airports go down.
69 PWMRamper: B6 has a huge hole in the middle of the country, I see them filling that before Canada.
70 GentFromAlaska: Another tidbit to consider. With the recent passing of Senator Ted Stevens, who until a few years ago was the nations third most powerful politician a
71 fxramper: This is great! Can't wait to use B6 to ANC instead of a dusty old purple bird from MEM.