Mason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 747 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3385 times:
The AS ramp at SEA is really tight, especially for the newer birds with longer wings/winglets. Still no excuse. It is not clear if the incident happened with the aircraft under tow, or if the aircraft was under its own power.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
Both aircraft were 737-900s. One aircraft is undergoing winglet replacement as we speak and should be ready by tomorrow. The other is being inspected and there should be more info within 24 hours on how long it will be out of service.
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16824 posts, RR: 57 Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Ouch. That's not a silly little mistake, either. They were WAY off...
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
Quoting terryb99 (Reply 2): another blow to outsourced rampers and only one wing walker, if that.
*sigh*
This incident aside, our ground damage rate is actually lower than it has been in years.
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grain From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2441 times:
Quoting terryb99 (Reply 2): another blow to outsourced rampers and only one wing walker, if that.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2147 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2232 times:
Quoting grain (Reply 6): Quoting terryb99 (Reply 2):
another blow to outsourced rampers and only one wing walker, if that.
here at WN we always have one wing walker.
Here at DL we always have TWO wing walkers
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F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
Quoting Mason (Reply 1): The AS ramp at SEA is really tight, especially for the newer birds with longer wings/winglets. Still no excuse. It is not clear if the incident happened with the aircraft under tow, or if the aircraft was under its own power.
The aircraft was being pushed back.
Quoting terryb99 (Reply 2): another blow to outsourced rampers and only one wing walker, if that.
AS requires 2 wing walkers. This was 100% preventable. Hopefully someone gets their butts handed to them for this.
This incident aside, our ground damage rate is actually lower than it has been in years.
Which I am very glad to hear. As you know, I have been very voiced about this. AS had no choice but to pull out the whip and chains, as these gorillas were clearly not going to change their behaviors on the ramp. Most importantly, there were no injuries in this incident. Lessons will be learned from this. Always 2 wing walkers.
as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
JFKspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 448 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1849 times:
Quoting grain (Reply 6): here at WN we always have one wing walker.
You mean at least one wing walker? Many stations use two.
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