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First 'Sky Interior' 737 Delivered To Flydubai  
User currently offlineaidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20401 times:

The first actual aircraft in commercial service with the new Boeing 'sky interior' has been handed over to flydubai.


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I really liked it in all previous photos, maybe it's just how the above picture has been taken, but I have gone off the look. The cabin looks closed in and the ceilings lower because of the way they have tried to make a curved effect at the front and back with a lower panel. Maybe it will grow on me again but for now I prefer the current design.

[Edited 2010-10-27 15:34:37 by EI787]

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User currently offlineKHPN From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20353 times:

Looks good if you've got an isle seat.. Middle and window are kind of iffy IMO.

User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20334 times:

Whoa, pivot bins in a 737NG! I think it's a great idea and still makes the cabin feel more open than the previous interior, while maximizing overhead storage space.

User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 20254 times:
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The ceilings appear anything but lower. When you walk in for the first time you will swear there were structural changes.

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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1883 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20212 times:

Nice one. VERY nice!


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User currently offlineaidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20213 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 3):
The ceilings appear anything but lower. When you walk in for the first time you will swear there were structural changes.

I guess it's different in person then, but the angle of those pivot bins really look like there pushing in the sides, which is what now makes me feel it looks a lot more closed in. Perhaps it's just the pictures I have seen to do with the lighting or lack of it...


User currently offlineRTWflyer From American Samoa, joined Oct 2010, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20133 times:

IMHO it changes the whole feeling of a narrow-body A/C. Looks great! Can't wait to see it in person,    


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User currently offlinecosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20002 times:

I wonder if the new bins will slow down boarding and egress. As bins are kept open during boarding time, it will be harder to get into the window and the middle seats. Pax may not be able to stand in the isle seat to let other pax pass.

User currently offlineaidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 19911 times:

Quoting cosmofly (Reply 7):
I wonder if the new bins will slow down boarding and egress. As bins are kept open during boarding time, it will be harder to get into the window and the middle seats. Pax may not be able to stand in the isle seat to let other pax pass

I dont think that it drops down that far. I think it pivots as so it goes up into its self leaving a bowl like space to put in the bags. Obviously very similar to that on the 777 interior sidewalls.


User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 718 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 19657 times:

Quoting aidoair (Thread starter):
The cabin looks closed in and the ceilings lower because of the way they have tried to make a curved effect at the front and back with a lower panel.

That lower panel is present in the current 737 interior and the one before. It extends half a row into the cabin at the front and rear. See the photos below. The first structure is liferaft or equipment stowage, the panel to which you make reference can be seen clearly. The second photo is without the liferaft stowage.


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To compare, here is a pic of the flydubai cabin with a conventional interior. Marked improvement, if you ask me! I think the existing scheme, with all the straight lines/edges, will date quite quickly.


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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1950 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 19591 times:

Are the reading light switches still on the PSUs?



Another Pic: http://twitpic.com/31dc3r



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[Edited 2010-10-27 13:40:07]


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User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 19413 times:

A radical change indeed.

The 737´s interior was starting to look quite outdated, specially when compared with the A32S´s. Big, and risky, improvement. Is this the first time ever a narrowbody is fitted with pivot bins?

In other words, interestingly, the middle area of the ceiling, between the bins, appears unchanged.

The pictures look good, maybe the new interior makes the aircraft seem crampier, but I can´t be sure until I experience the real deal. It is a real shame though that current 737s can´t be refitted with the new interior "a la 767".

Regards,

[Edited 2010-10-27 14:01:52]

User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 19329 times:
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Here is a proper photo:


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User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 19310 times:

Sa-weet! Can't wait to see it on AA's new birds next year. While a specific date has not been given, AA has confirmed 738s delivered next year (sometime in 1Q11) will feature the new BSI.


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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 19209 times:

The second aircraft to be fitted with this interior is MH's first owned B738, 9M-MXA, due for delivery anytime from now.


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User currently offlineaidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19072 times:

Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 9):
That lower panel is present in the current 737 interior and the one before. It extends half a row into the cabin at the front and rear. See the photos below. The first structure is liferaft or equipment stowage, the panel to which you make reference can be seen clearly. The second photo is without the liferaft stowage.

Yep, I work on the 733 and 738, though because of the curve on the new design it seems to emphasize this lower part.

The airline I work for is due to get their first 738 with this interior before next summer. I guess i'll have to wait untill then to see it in person to get the full effects.

Now seeing a clearer photo of the new design, I can see it's benefits and the smoothness and curve of the bins is what made me like it in the first place before I went off the idea. I still dont like the curved segments added below the ceiling though, especially the part with the two florecent light strips under it?


User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5454 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19025 times:

Pivot bins in a narrowbody!    I like the look much better, but the new functionality is even more important.

User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1645 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 19037 times:


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A considerable change when compared to an original 737-100


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...or compared to a 707-100, that has the same cross-section


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...or compared to a 727-100 ...again of course, with the same cross section


Does anyone know if the 07's and 37's originally had the open overhead racks?



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 18557 times:

This new interior looks fantastic. This puts the 737 cabin from being somewhat inferior to the A320 cabin to being FAR superior. I can't wait to fly on one of these new 737NGs in the future.

User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25291 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 18412 times:

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 18):
This puts the 737 cabin from being somewhat inferior to the A320 cabin to being FAR superior.

It does nothing to make the 737 cabin wider. The A320 fuselage still has an advantage in being 6 or 7 inches wider, permitting either wider seats, a wider aisle, or a combination thereof. You can squeeze past a meal/drinks cart in the aisle on an A320 which is not possible on a 737.

In any case, luckily for Boeing, not 1 in 1000 passengers is aware of any of those things and only chooses their flights based on whoever has the lowest fare.


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 616 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17818 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):
It does nothing to make the 737 cabin wider.

In fact, it accentuates the cabin's height. We'd need to see a pax view to know how it really looks.

I know CO/UA is supposed to take one of these Sky Interiors soon, and thereafter for all future deliveries. Will the first one be the 738 that is in flight tests with Boeing now? It reportedly has all kinds of new subtle (but they add up) enhancements, supposed to bring 2% greater efficiency.

Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 17):
Does anyone know if the 07's and 37's originally had the open overhead racks?

They used to call it a hat rack.

In early 1990, I flew an ex-FL (old Frontier) 732 DEN-HOU. It had open overhead racks, like today's intercity buses and trains do. Deep burgundy was the upholstery on the seats.

At the time, CO's 731s, all ex-LH-PE, had the 707 "widebody look" with enclosed bins, but some of the older FL 732s did not. Frontier's newest 732As, delivered from Boeing with the enclosed bins, went to UA.


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 729 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17156 times:
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Quoting aidoair (Thread starter):
The first actual aircraft in commercial service with the new Boeing 'sky interior' has been handed over to flydubai.

Can anybody confirm it is going up to PAE to the MRO for IFE install?


User currently offlineMainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 16652 times:

Look about half-way down the aisle at the ceiling, between the two recessed blue areas. Are those exposed light rods? What's with that?


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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 16575 times:
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Quoting 7673mech (Reply 21):
Can anybody confirm it is going up to PAE to the MRO for IFE install?

Yes, it left BFI for YXX, then PAE.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/5122571406/


User currently offlineflashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 16263 times:
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Wow. I love the new interior in general... but...

What were they thinking with the lighting in the middle of the cabin? It looks **AWFUL**. Like it's missing pieces that fit over the bulbs. Really, really unfortunate.


25 328JET : It looks very modern and stylish. But the cabin looks also higher than before, which makes it look more narrow than before. So, this new style has onl
26 Vasu : I must say that I agree with this statement. But overall, it still looks nice.
27 smokinL1011 : A nice overall improvement but why, oh why, can't the height of the windows be raised at least a few inches?? Just 3-5 inches higher and most people w
28 Post contains links PC12Fan : Video on Boeing's site. The bin closure assist is pretty slick. http://www.boeing.com/Features/2010/10/bca_bsi_10_27_10.html Boeing states existing 73
29 FoxThree : I have to admit that when I saw the computer-generated images I thought the new interior looked pretty hokey, particularly with the bright blue light
30 qqflyboy : In between that area is the liferaft stowage, which is located in the ceiling. The lights you see are likely LED strips, which if you've been in a Ne
31 max999 : Does anyone know if Airbus is planning anything to compete with this?
32 clickhappy : Not yet, but it is being looked at.
33 MPDPilot : I had heard that the issue with retrofitting is that the ducting and wiring in the overhead area were completely redesigned to accommodate the new lo
34 XT6Wagon : Sounds like a D check mod at best, and likely too expensive even at that.
35 PEET7G : You're way off line...It's 4in spread over 6 seats an an aisle... As I said it before, I challenge anyone to tell the difference there...
36 Post contains images FlyNWA727 : LOL. There are MANY people on A.net who swear up and down they can feel the difference. I hate to second guess anyone, but I doubt it. I've never flo
37 kmz : but honestly....the best looking cabin from the above shown is the 707-100
38 WarpSpeed : I agree...something appealing to that modular look. I also add the caveat that this thread has only 2-D pictures as a basis for discussion. It is my
39 rcair1 : After comparing the two photos (before, after) side by side I have to conclude that the framing of the photo makes it impossible to really get a feel
40 Viscount724 : What's your source? My source is Boeing and Airbus data. Check their detailed interior dimensions charts on their websites. Interior cabin width (tri
41 pnwtraveler : There are often times when the impression of a photo is very different than the impression of a person actually in the space. Photos often have a prof
42 Post contains images 328JET : I think a lot of people here believe, that the advantage of the wider cabin is spread over 6 seats, which is normally not the case, as it really woul
43 DocLightning : It appears that Boeing has lowered the place where the PSU's meet the wall lower against the wall in exchange for being able to angle up the bins like
44 STT757 : The next 737 UA takes delivery of will have the new Sky Interior, as well as all future deliveries (53 firm orders + options).
45 clickhappy : You are saying some airlines offer a middle row seat that is 2.8" wider? Which airlines?
46 328JET : No, i was saying middle seat, not middle row seat... Take a look at Lufthansa on their A321, 320, 319. But there are other airlines as well. The midd
47 Post contains images mrskyguy : I still think this is the roomiest interior I've seen yet for this size of a cross-section (despite being somewhat dated).. Boeing got it right the f
48 XT6Wagon : No bin space, you would have to check all luggage and just use the bins for purses and coats. The A320 interior is widest at the floor. I am not wide
49 Post contains images WNCrew : That's the best idea I've ever heard!
50 tdscanuck : That's a *huge* undertaking. Among other things, you have to redo all the stress calculations for the entire fuselage and change a ton of tooling. In
51 Post contains images FlyNWA727 : Exactly. I was wondering why no one else has mentioned this. Those 707 pics look almost identical to the original L-1011 TriStar interior... the one'
52 mrskyguy : This was before the times when people carried on everything they owned and that space was more than adequate. But even with a slight bin extension, t
53 Post contains images PEET7G : I got to ask for apologies when I am wrong, It seems I had wrong numbers in my head all along...anyway just off the real numbers, as well as your 6-7
54 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : That was actually the "second time". That interior, called "Superjet" by Boeing if memory correct, was introduced sometime in the mid-1970s. The orig
55 Blueman87 : I know UA-CO is getting them but someone said that AA is getting them is that true
56 Garpd : None of the countless hundreds of passengers I've spoken to on aircraft, departure lounges or check in queues have ever told me "I hope it's an A320,
57 328JET : Half a inch (nearly 1,3 cm) on every seat does not offer any advantage, your are right. But 2,8 inch is 7,1 cm more width for the middle seat - and t
58 NZdsgnr : now i am curious of which airlines offer those middle seats so much wider than the rest. Looking at NZ's A320's, their Y seats are 17in and C seats 2
59 328JET : Take a look at reply 46... But to bring the discussion back to the new B737-interior: I like it !
60 NZdsgnr : Ok, having just checked seatguru, those middle seats would be 18.3in instead of 17.3 for the other ones. nothing like 2.8in
61 Post contains links clickhappy : Here is a story saying the middle seat is 1" wider, a long way from 2.8" http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/02/tr...-an-inch-for-middle-passenger.html Als
62 328JET : The article in nytimes is nearly 11 years old... But i investigated a bit as well and stand corrected. Lufthansa offers 1 inch // 2,54cm wider seats a
63 parapente : Great new interior.And as I understand it 2% sfc from engines and aero tweeks at the same time.For an aircraft that has been around so long it is a fa
64 SB : Maybe I'm strange but from the pics it makes the interior look smaller... Not sure it's a marked improvement, I would stick with big change for now. S
65 clickhappy : Parapente - The Boeing PPT deck that I saw shows the average 737 stage at 2 hours and 750nm. This is the sweet spot of the market.
66 Blueman87 : must be wrong i didnt quate that
67 Blueman87 : Isn't AA getting this interior someone said it here and had a link but cant find it
68 Post contains links Blueman87 : Answered my own question http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ustomers-for-737-sky-interior.html
69 SXDFC : Will this new interior be an option on ALL versions of the 737NG?
70 smi0006 : From the article provided by blueman: 'Of those 45 customers, only FlyDubai, Continental Airlines, Norwegian Air Shuttle, Malaysia Airlines, TUI Trav
71 WNCrew : I don't quite understand why this new interior is optional....and it was stated somewhere that all NEW customers would receive the SKY Interior, while
72 tdscanuck : Because you've got some customers with really large install bases of the old interior...they may not want to have to double-stock parts (changing the
73 Schweigend : What will this mean for UA/CO? New sidewalls, ceilings, bins, everything except floors, really -- what a lot to deal with from a Trim Shop perspectiv
74 tdscanuck : There's typically a tipping point with fleet sizes where you become so big that you need two (or more) of everything anyway, in which case the cost o
75 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : Just to give a different perspective of the new Boeing Sky interior from a different carrier - MH's interior for their new B738s. All photos are from
76 Post contains images parapente : Great pics I love the interior.And I think the clear increase in overhead bag space will be very useful to the LCC's -Match that C300
77 flashmeister : Nice new pics, 9MMAR. At least those fluorescent bulbs aren't exposed, but I still think they stand out like a sore thumb. The rest of the interior is
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