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Delivery Of Garuda's 777's?  
User currently offlineqf737 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 4 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6511 times:

Just Wondering When Garuda is ment to take delivery of there new 777's.

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User currently onlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6414 times:

Delivery of the first of ten planned B77W is now scheduled for early 2012. The plan to launch nonstop Europe flights with these aircraft has been postponed for a year as the airline is struggling to make its CGK DXB AMS route work.

User currently onlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

HB-IWC, so has it not been as good as expected ? Does GA have 5th freedom rights between DXB and AMS ?


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User currently onlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4516 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

Fifth freedom rights are available on the DXB AMS DXB sectors. The route has been performing reasonable during the summer months, but loads during the upcoming slow weeks look abysmal. GA had planned to take delivery of up to 3 B77Ws in 2011 and launch a nonstop CGK AMS with these aircraft, while switching the A332 from the current CGK DXB AMS to CGK DXB FRA/LGW, but these plans have been delayed to 2012.

User currently offlineryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
switching the A332 from the current CGK DXB AMS to CGK DXB FRA/LGW

Seriously... why? Were they expecting to compete with EK without slashing their prices down eroding their profits even further? Do they not have enough 77Ws to make FRA / LGW nonstop?



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User currently offlinekretek From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

Any plans to codeshare with KLM to get traffic feed from their extensive European operations? And is GA still codesharing flights with MH to AMS now that they are flying with their own metal?

User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

There is much more capacity on the AMS-DXB than there was before the arrival of EK last May and GA last June.

Before then KL enjoyed a monopoly so it meant the total number of flights has risen from around 12 a week to around 27 a week. Yields must have fallen.


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Just going slightly off topic, anyone know what's the deal with the 737s? They've been taking brand new ones at up to 4 per month for the past year!    They're nearly outdoing AA with the deliveries.

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5141 times:

Too bad that GA is delaying 77W deliveries for about a year but hopefully they will get them in early 2012.

The777Man



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12597 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 8):
Too bad that GA is delaying 77W deliveries for about a year but hopefully they will get them in early 2012.

I wonder if they regret cancelling their 787s; going from 332s to 77Ws is quite an ambitious jump.

There has been a good few changes since the airline stopped its 744 operations; EK was in business then, but has expanded hugely since then, as have EY and QR, both of which serve CGK and offer lots of connections.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 9):
I wonder if they regret cancelling their 787s

Not sure what 787 order you are talking about; according to Beoing's Order and Deliveries page, GA never had a direct order with Boeing for 787s.

I think they should convert the order to 77Ls that would make nonstop flights to the US possible and they have less capacity as well.

The777Man

[Edited 2010-10-28 13:51:23]


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User currently offlinechrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1072 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

Quoting ryanair!!! (Reply 4):
Seriously... why? Were they expecting to compete with EK without slashing their prices down eroding their profits even further? Do they not have enough 77Ws to make FRA / LGW nonstop?

Their fares from Australia are hardly cheap in J class, around $6200 AUD, which is getting up near the other majors.



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User currently offlineryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

Quoting chrisrad (Reply 11):
Their fares from Australia are hardly cheap in J class, around $6200 AUD, which is getting up near the other majors.

GA's making a brave move here. Their fares ex-SIN has been on an upsurge ever since the re-branding. JCL fares SIN-DPS-SYD is now a whopping SGD4600.00 compared to just SGD2100.00 a few years ago. I agree they are inching towards the big boys so I am hoping this gamble they are taking pays off.

The airline looks promising now but...... there are some "kinks" within the airline which I believe is a leftover from the good-old-days which still needs to be ironed out. This will take time to eradicate.

I do a lot of cargo shipments with this airline to RUH via CGK and their schedules seems most unreliable. Flights get cancelled and moved around like you would change underwear daily. I guess when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.



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User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 888 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Going a bit off topic here too, but i fly the CGK-CUB-CGK route about once every 2 weeks. and equipment has always been the new B738 for some time now. However, since July, every flight i have been on has been delayed anywhere between 20 mins to 1 hour time. this is pretty frustrating for me too as i am usually on a day trip and delay on departure and a delay again coming back ..does make my work schedule a little more unmanageable. the usual comment from the crew is always ..."sorry for the delay due to late arrival of this aircraft" .....

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