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Pan Am International Departures From T2 At JFK?  
User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Back in the day, did Pan Am tow aircraft from T3 to T2 and have international departures from T2, like Delta does today?

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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3115 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

AFAIK, Pan Am operated only from Terminal 3 while Delta and Northwest operated only from Terminal 2.


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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):
AFAIK, Pan Am operated only from Terminal 3 while Delta and Northwest operated only from Terminal 2.

Nope, Pan Am was very much in Terminal 2 at JFK as well.


User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

I can tell you that in the late 90's, I saw DL do that for several other operators at T2/T3. I flew on Air Jamaica a few times on the A310s and each left from T2 and arrived at T3 for FIS, only to be towed back over to T2 for their morning departures. I also flew on a charter airline called Tradewinds airlines, which flew L-1011's to Cancun. Both times we departed from T2, but the second time, we arrived at T2 and used the people-movers to go over to gate 11 at T3 for FIS.

Can't recall if Pan Am ever did that though.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3576 times:
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Quoting washingtonian (Reply 2):
AFAIK, Pan Am operated only from Terminal 3 while Delta and Northwest operated only from Terminal 2.

Nope, Pan Am was very much in Terminal 2 at JFK as well.

Both are correct, T2 used to be NW & DL since it was built when they had only few flights at JFK. Pan AM later too over terminal 2( 1987) since T3 was very crowded, and built the walkway between them. All international flights used the FIS in T3 since T2 never had an FIS. Some international flights did leave from T2. Some flights international flights did arrive at a T2 physical gate space but passengers were bused to T3 with the Dulles airport type busses that were also used at JFK which lifted up to the planes doors.


User currently offlineJosh32121 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 4):
with the Dulles airport type busses that were also used at JFK which lifted up to the planes doors.

Oh they are very much still in use. I had no idea until we deplaned into a mobile lounge a few weeks ago after parking mid-tarmac between T3 and T4 and rode it (along with all 180 of my fellow 757 passengers to "Gate 11" at T3. Quite an experience.


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

Quoting MadDogJT8D (Reply 3):
I can tell you that in the late 90's, I saw DL do that for several other operators at T2/T3. I flew on Air Jamaica a few times on the A310s and each left from T2 and arrived at T3 for FIS, only to be towed back over to T2 for their morning departures. I also flew on a charter airline called Tradewinds airlines, which flew L-1011's to Cancun. Both times we departed from T2, but the second time, we arrived at T2 and used the people-movers to go over to gate 11 at T3 for FIS.

Yup. I remember this quite well. Pretty amazing to think that as recently as 10-12 years ago, many "premier" international airlines were using T3.


User currently offlineMadDogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 5):
Oh they are very much still in use. I had no idea until we deplaned into a mobile lounge a few weeks ago after parking mid-tarmac between T3 and T4 and rode it (along with all 180 of my fellow 757 passengers to "Gate 11" at T3. Quite an experience.

Have taken those people movers many times over the years, I'm surprised that they don't show their age more considering how long DL has been using them...

In my memory, those have always been a staple of JFK, all the way back to the ones used at the IAB (building that pre-dates T4).


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