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User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 892 times:

MSY desperately needs daily nostop service to Boston. I can't see why no airline has started this route. It would make a killing!!!!! Also, a day flight to Vegas(National are you listening?), nonstops to MDW on WN, Frontier daily to DEN, United second-daily flight to LAX, and for god's sake, NONSTOP TO EUROPE 1X WEEKLY!!!!!!! It's funny that the most European City in America has no nonstop to Europe..........1 flight a week to Germany or England would make tons of $$$. Any thoughts of these or other needed routes?

Steve o.

Sorry I moved from SXM, looking for a new house on Anguilla now!
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User currently offlineMmartinfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 789 times:

MSY is not a real big business market thats why there is no non-stops to BOS or over seas

User currently offlineATA757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 782 times:

What about IND, its not as big of a tourist attraction as New Orleans, but it is a bigger city. I think IND should have British Airways...HINT HINT...if Pittsburgh and Charlotte can have BA 767's I think places like IND and MSY should have non-stops to Europe, too! I think that at least a weekly flight, let alone a daily flight, would make a killing (money-wise) in IND.

Pendleton, IN

User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 776 times:

I believe that MSY could support atleast one nonstop to Boston Logan. With American Airlines beginning to set up operations at Logan, maybe flights to Boston from MSY are not far off. Other airlines, such as TWA and Delta could also fill in the void. New Orleans is a large business center, as well as tourist destination. So people from BOS might appreciate a nonstop to MSY. Maybe Air France would invest in a weekly flight into MSY, I am optamistic and believe it could work.

ATA757, the only reason PIT and CLT had BA flights was because for a while, BA and USAirways were in an alliance. I say had because BA recently dropped their BA service to PIT. However CLT service has remained profitable. And since both cities are hubs, they have passengers that can feed into the international flights supported by the two cities mentioned. Since most passengers travelling internationally from IND would be local traffic, it would be hard to persuade an International airline to start service. But it could happen.

CMH also needs some service to new cities to begin. Some airline MUST start service to Kansas City soon! Several airlines have direct flights to MCI and it's about time an airline got the bright idea to begin that service. CMH also needs more flights out West. I do not know what America West is waiting for, they NEED to expand Westward from CMH. Columbus City council and the Port Authority have developed a special task force to look into the prospecrt of international service from CMH. Talks have been going on with BA and Luftansa, both of which apparently have expressed interest in serving CMH from London (BA) and Frankfurt (Luftansa).

User currently offlineMdsmith11 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 194 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 773 times:

I happen to work for UAL at MSY. I've personally expressed interest that Air France should initiate service to Paris. However there is not much Gate Space. The only real international gate is C-1 and it's a very tight fit for anything but a learjet. In April the Airport authority actually parked a 747-400 from KLM there but then broke the towbar while pushing it back....kinda ruined Southwest's afternoon!! Delta has a nonstop to Vegas. Was a 767 that left approx 11:00pm and then the same plane returned at 7:00am sharp. Just recently it was sxwitched to a 757. At United we are pretty much employee capacity controlled. There is always a plane on the ground and at a gate from 11:40 or so until our LAX flight leaves at 6:00. BTW, that flight will be a 757 on November 1st. We will have gone from 0 to 4 '57's daily. Denver; we have three daily flights to there and they're almost always at 95% capacity or completely full. It's not fun at all cramming all the bags and mail into our morning Denver flight into the 737.

While mentioneing Paris, our 914 flight to Dulles actually continues to Paris as a 777. Of course there is an equipment change but the public looks at it as a non-stop which of course is not true. That flight as most of our flights operate at or near peak capacity adn it's even less fun putting those big international bags in the 737. Again that will be a 757 come 1 November.

I can mostly agree with your "New Route" selections, but I would also like to suggest Seattle. I think that there would be a market to support it.

User currently offlineLear777 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 290 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 772 times:

Well, I think the problem with MSY is that you're surrounded by big hubs- IAH, ATL, MIA, etc. In this day with alliances it's become easier for the big airlines to simply feed passengers into those hubs, then have them connect onto their partner airline for continuing flights. I think this is the case with MSY. Airlines like Air France are probably interested in MSY, but have found it more cost efficient to simply slap their code on Delta out of ATL. Personally I think if someone tried serving MSY, it'd work, but who knows. I'd be willing to bet Boston service is not far in coming, and with UA expanding at LAX a second daily MSY-LAX isn't that far fetched of an idea. However UA is kinda low on aircraft right now with all these new flights being started so it could be a while before anything happens.

As far as Indianapolis goes, I'm not sure that's big enough of an international market to warrant any service. Again, it's easier for an airline to get their pax into IND simply by codesharing out of the surrounding airports like ORD.

Now, BA actually does hold rights to serve CMH. They actually recently renewed them. If BA were to ever start service to CMH, it'd be via PHL, according to their application. However I think BA is going to wait and see what happens with their alliance with AA and their seat cutting experiment before starting any new flights to the US. There's a bad case of over capacity on the North Atlantic, and that's really hurting the chances of places like CMH of getting non-stop service to Europe.


Go Astros!
User currently offline24291 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 774 times:

America West certainly needs to add New Orleans to its destination list. It would be even better if they could add service from all three hubs (Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Columbus). Then, they could fly direct MSY-BOS through Columbus and have non-stops connecting to the west coast. Southwest has PHX-MSY non-stop, so I'm certain AWA could do it and make a killing. They would fly to MSY already if it weren't for their code-share agreement with Continental. I'd like to see them get off the Continental bottle, but I don't see it happening. I agree with FlyCMH, they could also improve by adding western destinations via CMH.

User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 768 times:

I completely agree with America West serving MSY. Two nonstops to PHX with 737's or A320's/A319's, a flight or two to LAS, and an A319 flight to CMH would work perfectly from MSY! That would be great. Lear777, I had no idea BA had the rights for CMH service! I knew for a while that AWA and BA had a codeshare agreement for an America West 737 flight to PHL, then continuing to a BA flight to London. However, I think that agreement has dissolved. Also, isn't Metrojet big in MSY? Maybe they could start more flights. Any news on new routes by TWA??

User currently offlineLear777 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 290 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 767 times:

I tend to agree with you that AW could do well in MSY. Personally I think you'll be seeing service soon, however I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything grand. Most likely it would be one or two flights to PHX, tops. LAS service would come later, and only one daily flight. I wouldn't count on CMH service...HP does very little out of that hub. IAH, DFW, ATL, etc don't have HP service to CMH.
MSY is badly hurt in this case by it's location to IAH. America West seems to content to simply funnel pax through IAH,then have them continue on Continental to places like MSY. IAH has the same problem- we have no non-stop air service to places like Oakland, Burbank, Long Beach, etc becuase Continental codeshares on America West to those destinations. Hopefully somewhere down the road we'll see more non-stop routes in favor of simply codesharing.

America West and British Airways are still codesharing; as a matter of fact they just expanded it to several cities. However I could easily see this agreement coming apart before long as HP and Virgin Atlantic have signed a new deal.

I think if you see any Metrojet expansion it would be more in the direction of Florida. But thats just a guess....MJ's route plans baffle me.

I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see TWA make MSY a focus city. But we'll just have to wait and see.


Go Astros!
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 763 times:

What?! Are you nuts?! MSY is --the-- business destination...those planes aren't packed with visitors, they're packed with businessmen going to non-stop conventions!!!


User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (16 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 762 times:

MSY isn't a big business center like ATL,IAH, but the the city has TONS of conventions throughout the year so the planes are always packed. And, don't forget about the little thing called Mardi Gras.......MSY is a HUGE tourist and convention city.......we need and deserve more service. Metrojet's 2 daily flights to BWI go out full, as does Air Canada's new nonstop to Toronto(the YYZ flight is now an A319..up from a DC9). Delta has lots of 757 and 767 service and they go out full; TWA has upgraded its STL service......4 out of the 5 flights are either MD80's or 727's. Continental has added 757 service to IAH. So as you can see, MSY is a decent market........AWA would do great here!!!!!!!!

steve o

Sorry I moved from SXM, looking for a new house on Anguilla now!
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