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WN/FL Merger - How Will DL Be Affected At ABQ?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

With the planned WN/FL merger, I am a little worried about how will DL be affected at ABQ, particularly on the ATL-ABQ route. If WN adds the same route if the FL merger is approved, yields will definitely be driven down. After all, most people in Albuquerque prefer to fly Southwest over Delta, even if WN's fares are not the cheapest. Pretty much the only people in Albuquerque who prefer DL would be business travelers as DL offers F class and assigned seating. DL also offers international connectivity to Europe from ATL, which WN/FL does not.

The main thing I am worried that might happen would be that DL cuts ATL-ABQ entirely. However, sometimes the Southwest Effect causes competitors to flood the market with more seats at lower fares, and maybe DL could add more 757 flights into ABQ year-round. This could also spell the end of using the MD-88 on ABQ-ATL, since DL would be at a competitve disadvantage compared to WN's 737s. DL could also allocate more AVOD-equipped aircraft on the route to have a superior product compared to WN.

Does anyone have their own opinion?

[Edited 2010-10-29 07:41:30]


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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
After all, most people in Albuquerque prefer to fly Southwest over Delta, even if WN's fares are not the cheapest.




And just how did you come to this conclusion? Please supply the numbers that would back that up. If you don't have the numbers, are you in contact with "most people in Albuquerque?


User currently offlinessides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

It's hard to say. First, there's no guarantee that WN would add ABQ-ATL after the merger. They would have to look at the amount of O&D, plus connections, average yields, etc. There's probably a decent chance that they wouldn't fly the route, but who knows.

But, assuming they did elect to fly ABQ-ATL, I'm not sure how much DL would be impacted. Sure, there would be some dropoff in yield, but it might not be all that significant. DL only has three daily flights, and all of them are obviously timed for connecting pax, which is the market they're looking to secure. Even after the merger, the expanded WN won't be serving all the connecting destinations that DL serves from ATL. In my view, it's doubtful that DL would leave the market altogether. There could be some right-sizing involved, but a complete pullout is unlikely, IMHO.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6385 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

Not very bloody likely, at first at least.

ABQ-ATL is way beyond the ideal stage length for a WN flight. The O&D numbers would have to be tremendous before WN would consider doing it nonstop. Now, as a one or two stop, that's a different matter, entirely  

I doubt ELP-ATL will enter into WN's thinking anytime soon, for the same reasons. If it weren't against the Wright Ammendment, I think a set of WN flights from ATL to DAL (with convenient connecting times) and back has the potential to gut both ot DL's mainline routes to the said midsized cities from ATL...



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 1):
And just how did you come to this conclusion? Please supply the numbers that would back that up. If you don't have the numbers, are you in contact with "most people in Albuquerque?

Considering WN is by far the largest carrier at ABQ, I think it is safe to come to this conclusion. Also, WN quickly became the #1 carrier on ABQ-DEN, beating out UA and F9. However, it is quite possible that there is more O&D traffic between Albuquerque and Denver than there is between Albuquerque and Atlanta.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

I'm not so sure that ABQ-ATL would be added to the network post-merger anytime soon. I can see it happening over the longer term. As it stands now ABQ is well connected in the WN network. Heading east there are plenty of connecting opportunities via DEN, MCI, STL, MDW, HOU and BWI -- with the odd LAS or PHX connect thrown in. For the handful of new destinations picked up from AirTran going via BWI would already provide connection opportunities.

I think Tucson, El Paso and a few other similarly sized markets out west are in the same place.

[Edited 2010-10-29 09:09:09]


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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
This could also spell the end of using the MD-88 on ABQ-ATL, since DL would be at a competitve disadvantage compared to WN's 737s

No they wouldn't. The MD-88's are WiFi equipped and have a nice F and Y cabin. They'll continue to use the planes that make the most financial sense for them...and obviously the MD-88's are holding their own on the route.


User currently offlinessides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
The MD-88's are WiFi equipped and have a nice F and Y cabin. They'll continue to use the planes that make the most financial sense for them...and obviously the MD-88's are holding their own on the route.

With all due respect, I think these two statements contradict one another. If WN were to start the route, it could very well have WiFi-equipped planes deployed. If WN's entry to the market were to push down yields, a smaller aircraft might make more sense for DL.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
No they wouldn't. The MD-88's are WiFi equipped and have a nice F and Y cabin. They'll continue to use the planes that make the most financial sense for them...and obviously the MD-88's are holding their own on the route.

Well, DL currently has no competition on the route. If WN starts the route using 73Gs, DL will have higher trip costs than WN on the same route, thus putting DL at a competitive disadvantage. It would probably make more sense to use a 738, A320, or MD-90.

Yes, I know DL usually brings in some 757s in the spring, summer, and during the Balloon Fiesta. Also, it looks like ABQ-ATL will be going all 738 in mid-February through the end of April.



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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4797 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
Considering WN is by far the largest carrier at ABQ, I think it is safe to come to this conclusion. Also, WN quickly became the #1 carrier on ABQ-DEN, beating out UA and F9. However, it is quite possible that there is more O&D traffic between Albuquerque and Denver than there is between Albuquerque and Atlanta.
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
After all, most people in Albuquerque prefer to fly Southwest over Delta,




Your first statement above does not prove your second statement above.
What has WN being the number #1 carrier between ABQ-DEN have to do with preferring WN over DL? The same goes with WN being the largest carrier in ABQ. Your logic escapes me.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Quoting ssides (Reply 7):
With all due respect, I think these two statements contradict one another. If WN were to start the route, it could very well have WiFi-equipped planes deployed. If WN's entry to the market were to push down yields, a smaller aircraft might make more sense for DL.

Maybe, maybe not. Then again, I have my doubt that WN would start ABQ-ATL in the first place, so until that happens, it's all guess work.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):
Well, DL currently has no competition on the route. If WN starts the route using 73Gs, DL will have higher trip costs than WN on the same route, thus putting DL at a competitive disadvantage. It would probably make more sense to use a 738, A320, or MD-90.

And if they continued to use the M88, assuming WN started the route (probably less than 50% chance I'd say), they'd have their reasons for doing it. M88 fuel burn is still not horrible, plus they are adding extra seats to the planes, so the CASM will be even better than it is today.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4755 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
And if they continued to use the M88, assuming WN started the route (probably less than 50% chance I'd say), they'd have their reasons for doing it. M88 fuel burn is still not horrible, plus they are adding extra seats to the planes, so the CASM will be even better than it is today.

Well, here is what will likely happen if WN began an ABQ-ATL route:
1. WN will probably use a more fuel efficient aircraft than DL on the same route, probably a 73G.
2. WN will drive down yields on the route.

With lower yields on the route, and higher operating costs than the competitor, it would be pretty stupid for DL not to switch to a more efficient aircraft, otherwise they would be at a clear cost disadvanttage. The 738 burns about 20% less fuel than the MD-88.



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4660 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
The main thing I am worried that might happen would be that DL cuts ATL-ABQ entirely.

Extremely unlikely. ATL is the largest hub for DL, and the connecting opportunities offered there cannot be match by any other hub in their network. If they eliminate ATL, the only east bound options on DL from ABQ would be through MSP on a route that fluctuates between one and two daily flights depending on season.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
With lower yields on the route, and higher operating costs than the competitor, it would be pretty stupid for DL not to switch to a more efficient aircraft, otherwise they would be at a clear cost disadvanttage. The 738 burns about 20% less fuel than the MD-88.

This requires moving the more efficient aircraft from another route and replacing it with the less efficient one. In the end it's about balancing the available resources for DL. The extra range or slightly higher capacity of the 738 may be needed for other routes. I don't think it's a given that it would be the smart move for DL to replace the MD-88 with the 738 if they found themselves head to head with WN on the ATL-ABQ route.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 12):
This requires moving the more efficient aircraft from another route and replacing it with the less efficient one. In the end it's about balancing the available resources for DL. The extra range or slightly higher capacity of the 738 may be needed for other routes. I don't think it's a given that it would be the smart move for DL to replace the MD-88 with the 738 if they found themselves head to head with WN on the ATL-ABQ route.

DL has several 738 routes that are shorter than ABQ-ATL. Also, soon there will be a difference in capacity of only 11 seats, and ABQ-ATL should have no trouble filling them, considering DL's summer 752 flights are quite often overbooked.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):

With lower yields on the route, and higher operating costs than the competitor, it would be pretty stupid for DL not to switch to a more efficient aircraft, otherwise they would be at a clear cost disadvanttage. The 738 burns about 20% less fuel than the MD-88.

We get it (from all your ABQ posts) - you don't like the MD-88s and want AVOD.

Truth of the matter is, Delta has 73 737-800s right now. With the merger, these are being spread out even more, between JFK transcons, ATL transcons, and now flights from DTW and MSP to the West Coast, where stage lengths are longer than the 1200 miles or so between ATL and ABQ.

Just because it fits well on one route doesn't mean it makes complete sense.

Heck, with Delta's future strategy of trying to limit aircraft types in each market, I wouldn't be surprised if ABQ went all MD-88 or Airbus. Could very well be the Mad Dogs since the plane can handle the market fine and MSP and ATL are both MD bases.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 14):
Heck, with Delta's future strategy of trying to limit aircraft types in each market, I wouldn't be surprised if ABQ went all MD-88 or Airbus. Could very well be the Mad Dogs since the plane can handle the market fine and MSP and ATL are both MD bases.

What about ABQ's summer demand increases and hot-and-high conditions, as well as the October Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta? I really don't see DL eliminating the 752 during those times, as the added capacity and performance is vital. I think DL could actually fill a 753 during the Balloon Fiesta.

The fact is, I am not simply suggesting to stop using the MD-88 just because of AVOD, but if WN were to compete with DL on ABQ-ATL, DL would be at an obvious cost disadvantage due to the MD-88s higher fuel burn and reduced yields due to competition. Switching to a more fuel-efficient aircraft can help offset the lost profit due to reduced yields. And it doesn't have to necessarily be a 738; the A320 or MD-90 are also good options. I would actually say the MD-90 would be the most ideal, as ABQ-ATL is within the MD-90's range and has comparable fuel burn with the 738 and A320.

Also, it isn't like DL will never fly the 738 into ABQ again. The schedules are showing the MD-88 flights being changed to 738s in mid-Februrary.

[Edited 2010-10-29 12:50:36]


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4478 times:

Look, your post is pure speculation on a complete what-if scenario, that at first glace doesn't seem all that likely to happen in the near future.

Quoting ssides (Reply 7):
With all due respect, I think these two statements contradict one another. If WN were to start the route, it could very well have WiFi-equipped planes deployed. If WN's entry to the market were to push down yields, a smaller aircraft might make more sense for DL.

The 2-class RJs CR9 and E-175 are supposed to get wifi at some point.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 15):
What about ABQ's summer demand increases and hot-and-high conditions, as well as the October Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta? I really don't see DL eliminating the 752 during those times, as the added capacity and performance is vital. I think DL could actually fill a 753 during the Balloon Fiesta.

I am sick and tired of hearing about this Balloon Fest. Seriously, it is not that big deal and if they do put a 753 on for a day, so what????

If you are lucky, DL will make all flights into ABQ on 753's with the Panasonic XL4500 9s-Ipod PTVs on the Recaro Weber 9999XL seat, but it might have the 2020's style PSUs with faux wood grain panels in the lav, and the retro-DL seat markers.


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
DL has several 738 routes that are shorter than ABQ-ATL. Also, soon there will be a difference in capacity of only 11 seats, and ABQ-ATL should have no trouble filling them, considering DL's summer 752 flights are quite often overbooked.

Of course they have some 738 routes that are shorter than ABQ-ATL. Utilizing longer range aircraft on short flights helps keep utilization high between longer flights. If DL swaps the MD-88 on to one of those shorter routes to move 738s (or A320s or MD-90s) to ABQ as you suggest, that other route now has higher operating costs. You've made one route look better at the expense of another.

From an overall network standpoint ABQ-ATL will remain valuable whether WN enters the market or not. The aircraft operating it will be based on much more than what's the most fuel efficient. Like I said in my earlier post, it's about balancing the available resources of DL.

If I'm ABQ I'm not sweating over the prospect of WN entering the ABQ-ATL market. I'm far more concerned for when the Wright Amendment expires. WN passengers from DAL will no longer have to funnel through connecting airports like ABQ to get to destinations like PHX, LAX, LAS, and SAN. They'll go non-stop and ABQ could be a big loser in the WN network as DAL schedules adjust to the post-Wright reality.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4428 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 17):
Of course they have some 738 routes that are shorter than ABQ-ATL. Utilizing longer range aircraft on short flights helps keep utilization high between longer flights. If DL swaps the MD-88 on to one of those shorter routes to move 738s (or A320s or MD-90s) to ABQ as you suggest, that other route now has higher operating costs. You've made one route look better at the expense of another.

Well, DL could simply move the MD-88 to a route with no competition, where DL has total control of the fares on that route, and thus with higher fares DL can pay for the higher operating costs of the MD-88. Any entry of WN on ABQ-ATL will greatly lower fares on the route as the Southwest Effect always does, and thus it becomes more difficult to compete using the MD-88 when your LCC competitor is using more fuel-efficeint 73Gs.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
1. WN will probably use a more fuel efficient aircraft than DL on the same route, probably a 73G.
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 18):
Any entry of WN on ABQ-ATL will greatly lower fares on the route as the Southwest Effect always does, and thus it becomes more difficult to compete using the MD-88 when your LCC competitor is using more fuel-efficeint 73Gs.

I believe someone's already posted soemthing to the fact that DL's flights on ABQ-ATL will soon be all 738's, correct?



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 18):
Well, DL could simply move the MD-88 to a route with no competition, where DL has total control of the fares on that route, and thus with higher fares DL can pay for the higher operating costs of the MD-88. Any entry of WN on ABQ-ATL will greatly lower fares on the route as the Southwest Effect always does, and thus it becomes more difficult to compete using the MD-88 when your LCC competitor is using more fuel-efficeint 73Gs.

What percentage of ABQ-ATL is O&D? I would wager that most passengers flying from ABQ to ATL are connecting to somewhere else. There's no non-stop competition for DL on the route currently, but there was certainly competition for nearly all of the connecting passengers. There's even competition for some of the more price sensitive ABQ-ATL passengers that could have easily connected through DFW on AA or IAH on CO. They'd sacrifice the non-stop to save some money.

I'd be very interested in finding a route that DL could fill multiple MD-88s on, where they would have no competition and DL could raise fares as the pleased to make up for using a less fuel efficient aircraft. If a route had that much O&D there'd almost certainly be someone else flying it non-stop or offering cheap and plentiful connections.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4357 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 20):
I'd be very interested in finding a route that DL could fill multiple MD-88s on, where they would have no competition and DL could raise fares as the pleased to make up for using a less fuel efficient aircraft. If a route had that much O&D there'd almost certainly be someone else flying it non-stop or offering cheap and plentiful connections.

One such route I can think of is ATL-ORF. DL does occasionally use a few 738s on that route, despite not needing the 738's additional capabilities.



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4347 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 21):
DL does occasionally use a few 738s on that route, despite not needing the 738's additional capabilities.

What data do to have to back up this statement?


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Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4326 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
Considering WN is by far the largest carrier at ABQ, I think it is safe to come to this conclusion. Also, WN quickly became the #1 carrier on ABQ-DEN, beating out UA and F9. However, it is quite possible that there is more O&D traffic between Albuquerque and Denver than there is between Albuquerque and Atlanta.

not really jetBlue is the biggest demostic carrier at JFK would you fly jetBlue to FLL for $147 each way if delta was $99 no you wouldnt



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User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4295 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 3):
Not very bloody likely, at first at least.

ABQ-ATL is way beyond the ideal stage length for a WN flight.

That was the old WN the new WN wants HUBS


Delta knows that WN has lower costs so i doubt they would even attempt fighting WN where they have more loyal followers in cities like ABQ. They might defend key markets like if WN enters SLC-ATL but i don't see delta having the resources or really being able to defend a pretty small route like ABQ-ATL. I doubt they would leave or need to since most passengers are connecting but they might "rightsize" the route

Even if WN beefs up DEN-ATL, LAS-ATL, or PHX-ATL its gonna be hard for delta to fight them and with WNs lower costs probably a money loosing effort since DL wont be able to push WN off the routes. WN has large FF bases in these cities and will adopt a huge one in ATL. I=


25 Alias1024 : I don't think that DL can just raise fares as they please on that route. AirTran (soon to be Southwest) flies from ATL to Newport News, which is only
26 1337Delta764 : Interestingly, with today's schedule updates, the 738s that were planned on ABQ-ATL beginning in mid-February were replaced today by 752s, with the fi
27 DeltAirlines : Likely due to aircraft needs (again). In the winter, Delta needs their MD-88s more for Northeast-Florida flying - there is a good number of additiona
28 Cubsrule : How many transcons has the "new WN" started in the past 2 or 3 years? The "new WN" may want hubs, but that says nothing about wanting long flights.
29 PSU.DTW.SCE : It isn't anything particularly unique to ABQ. There is a significant schedule change that is effective on Feb 18th, just prior to the President's Day
30 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : I do see what you are saying and i do agree for the most part. I think there will be less transons for O&D from the non-hubs/major focus cities t
31 SANFan : But more importantly, IMHO, it is now late October, and schedules in mid-February on Delta will change significantly several times before then; fligh
32 Tango-Bravo : Why the personal concern for DL's future at ABQ?
33 Cubsrule : SLC-ATL is shorter than SLC-BWI. For connections to anywhere north of Washington D.C., however. BWI is a better connecting point. Looking at ABQ, ATL
34 1337Delta764 : I live in the Albuquerque area, and I am a DL FF. I would totally hate to see them pull out of ABQ altogether.
35 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : ABQ-ATL-MHT versus ABQ-BWI-MHT saves a measly 174 miles and the same for ALB saves 163 miles and LGA saves 173 miles which is literally nothing. But A
36 aviationbuff08 : Keep in mind that there is a significant US Government (DOE) facility nearby that provides DL with a great deal of government, high yielding fares. I
37 bobnwa : I am sure that one member of this forum would like Delta to start a shuttle ATL-ABQ with 767-400 service all eauiped with AVOD.
38 Cubsrule : Why would Delta - the world's largest airline - pull out of Albuquerque altogether? Look, any damage that WN does to DL in ABQ is already done. WN al
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