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Allegiant To Park The 757s?  
User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13774 times:

Found these on another board, rumor or fact? Maybe FATflyer can shed some light.

http://allegiant757.blogspot.com/

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...es-profit-notes-summer-slowdown-t/


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User currently offlineFATflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13675 times:

In the conference call this week they talked about Hawaii being delayed until mid-summer 2011 due to the ETOPS process. But I couldn't pick up on anything about a schedule for the 757s being used on the mainland between now and then. So they are parking them temporarily until the type is added to the certificate and they can be used on the mainland.

Speaking of the 757s, N902NV is in livery but it is the new version which is different than N901NV's in the picture at the link. The new livery replaces the web URL with the new tagline "Travel is our deal" and the sunburst on the tail is now yellow in the center and a gradient to orange on the outside to match the company name logo.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13360 times:

Why not try something like a coast to coast trip between business and tourist centers?

User currently offlinemrskyguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13223 times:

Quoting FATflyer (Reply 1):
In the conference call this week they talked about Hawaii being delayed until mid-summer 2011 due to the ETOPS process. But I couldn't pick up on anything about a schedule for the 757s being used on the mainland between now and then. So they are parking them temporarily until the type is added to the certificate and they can be used on the mainland.

This was anticipated and expected. EIS of a new fleet type involving a new ETOPS certification takes time, and is often outpaced by the "made ready for flight" status of the actual airframes.



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User currently offlinecentralma From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13182 times:

Google N902NV and you can find a few (like 2) Allegiant-released photos of the updated livery. The branding decision for "Travel is our deal" must have been made after N901NV painting approval.

User currently offlineFATflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12962 times:

Quoting mrskyguy (Reply 3):

This was anticipated and expected. EIS of a new fleet type involving a new ETOPS certification takes time, and is often outpaced by the "made ready for flight" status of the actual airframes.

I haven't been surprised by the talk. The original statements from Allegiant executives were a timeline of in service in January/February of 2011 but I'm not surprised it will take more time.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2092 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10697 times:

Quoting FATflyer (Reply 1):
Speaking of the 757s, N902NV is in livery but it is the new version which is different than N901NV's in the picture at the link. The new livery replaces the web URL with the new tagline "Travel is our deal" and the sunburst on the tail is now yellow in the center and a gradient to orange on the outside to match the company name logo.
http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/G4757b.jpg

I actually kinda like it. I think the logo looks better (over the titles) on this one.



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User currently onlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2848 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10631 times:

Man, those G4 757s do look sharp. Hopefully G4 will be able to put them in service in time for the busy summer travel season! I guess this means G4 will have to cleverly utilize its LGB slots for a bit longer than originally anticipated  .


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9719 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6495 times:

That's indeed a sharp looking bird!!! Hope to see it some day.

A388


User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6139 times:

Is it an ETOPS things or an entry-in-service paperwork/FAA thing?

If it is the former, any chance they could deploy they on their Las Vegas or Florida routes?


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

Quoting AirNovaBAe146 (Reply 9):
If it is the former, any chance they could deploy they on their Las Vegas or Florida routes?

There was a rumor a while back of G4 temporary/seasonal LAS routes from the eastern Midwest/East Coast using the 757s. For some reason, it was pulled, as TOL was rumored to have received the LAS service before G4 told them "no".



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User currently offlinepietpaflsun From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

Disappointing 3rd Qtr results, additional competition and the move back to Sanford. Sounds like a rethink of the expansion of the airline.


Run with the dogs, get the fleas
User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2355 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

Quoting pietpaflsun (Reply 11):

That's my take. Paperwork, certifications, permits etc can also be deliberately slowed down by the airline. I will bet that is what is going on here. When the economy picks up, watch the process go faster.


User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2038 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

They could always use the 757 for DOD charters, and just for charters in general.


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Quoting pietpaflsun (Reply 11):
Disappointing 3rd Qtr results, additional competition and the move back to Sanford. Sounds like a rethink of the expansion of the airline.

Maybe WN's "bags fly free" campaign is partially eating into G4's results. Even though WN is rarely the cheapest option on many routes, I wonder if pax are driving to WN-served airports instead of G4's small-city local airports simply by knowing that they'll be saving on bag fees. Could we see a "drive a little, save your sanity" ad campaign from WN? I wouldn't put it past them.

I agree on the competition growing: Direct Air is growing and NK is starting to enter G4-type small markets. If WN enters more smaller markets after the FL merger, G4 might have to watch out.

Just my two cents.



I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3046 times:

Do we have any idea where the Hawaii routes will be or is that still a mystery?

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting SlcDeltaRUmd11 (Reply 15):

Do we have any idea where the Hawaii routes will be or is that still a mystery?

Still a mystery, even with G4's latest schedule update.



I don't work for FWA, their tenants, or their ad agency. But I still love FWA.
User currently offlineFATflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting SlcDeltaRUmd11 (Reply 15):
Do we have any idea where the Hawaii routes will be or is that still a mystery?

Allegiant said in the recent conference call that they probably will not begin Hawaii until the middle of summer 2011. For competitive reasons I doubt we will know any routes for at least another 3 or 4 months, in the conference call they made it clear they are playing it close to the vest.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
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