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Turkish Aviation November 2010  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15083 times:

Hello Aviation Fans,
This month it is all about the new flagship at Turkish Airlines.
TK started to receive its owned 77W frames last month. "Dolmabahce" and "Beylerbeyi" (named after old Turkish palaces), painted in the new livery, arrived with the introduction of the new Y+ class. 3 more will join the fleet before the end of the year and the remaining 7 will complete the order by next August. 3rd frame already can be seen at PAE. By then the leased 4 x 77Ws from 9W would leave.

TK opted for;
28 x J seats with 78" pitch in 2-3-2
63 x Y+ seats with 45" pitch in 2-3-2
246 x Y seats with 32" pitch in 3-3-3 arrangement.




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The first frame is doing revenue flights already and TK website showing that it will do BRU and MED flights today.
At below link you can see some of the interior shots:
http://www.flugrevue.de/de/bilderstr...irlines-boeing-777-300er.33256.htm

In other news:
-TK starts its 3rd US destination this week, IAD. TK might add ATL to this flight, no news when yet.
-I wonder when TK will start to change the paint job on the older planes?
-Do we know if the new 319/321/738/739 arriving next year have the same interiors as the new LH fleet?
-Are there plans to change the interiors of the older 343s, 332s to match the new colors?
-Yesterday even the PM mentioned about the delays at IST and the necessity of a 3rd airport in Istanbul
-Lately we hear more incidents from TK, rapid expansion drawbacks?
-AnadoluJet starting Ankara-Moscow 3 x weekly, bringing the total of flights between two countries to 70 weekly.
-Sunexpress receiving another 738 shortly. How is Onur doing? Very quiet recently.

Please join us with your news, pictures, comments, rumors and sense of humor.

***Here is our thread from 3 years back:
Turkish Aviation November 2007 (by Stylo777 Nov 1 2007 in Civil Aviation)

173 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26508 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15037 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
At below link you can see some of the interior shots:
http://www.flugrevue.de/de/bilderstr...6.htm

I have to say I love the new interiors. The more I see them the more I like them. The J class has come in for alot of critism but I actually like it.



AEGEAN-OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ " μέλος στη Star Alliance
User currently onlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15014 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
TK starts its 3rd US destination this week, IAD

Now it appears at 4w instead of 5w as announced earlier... Or am i seeing it wrong?


User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1757 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15000 times:

I am planning to be on the IST-IAD flight Nov. 6th.. It shows as 777. I wonder if it will be the new one..
Sending 777 to BRU and MED? Really? You gotta be kidding me!!



Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26508 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14985 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 3):
Sending 777 to BRU and MED?

And tomorrow also :


MON 01 Nov 2010

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------
TK 1938 BRU 11:30 IST 15:45 321 0 Y7 C7
TK 1940 BRU 17:40 IST 21:55 777 0 Y7 C7



AEGEAN-OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ " μέλος στη Star Alliance
User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14978 times:

We might hear about TK take over plans in the near future. TK is bidding for the privatisation of Serbian state carrier. TK is also considering to invest in Africa.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14916 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 3):
Sending 777 to BRU and MED?

Hadj flights are full swing;
Out of IST, today TK is sending;
738, 343, 332, 321 and a 77W to MED
738, 3 x 343s and 3 x 321s to JED.


User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1757 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14797 times:

TK787,
I can understand Hadj flights being full.. What I don't get is why TK send this premium equipment to the Hadj flight instead of using their but ugly Air Jamaica 340s or 330s that they are leasing from SAGA (if they are still doing it)



Earthbound misfit I
User currently onlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7329 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14798 times:
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TK sending A340 TC-JIH to MAN today to pick up Man Utd for the Champions League tie with Bursaspor on Wednesday and flying it to Yenisehir going off MAN departures.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14775 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 7):

I am with you 100%. TK might be doing these short flights to get the kinks out. Also I am sure the belly is full of "Holy Water"!!
I hope you get the 77W on the IAD flight to write a TR.
And yes TK still has the SAGA 333 and the BMI 332.

Quoting david_itl (Reply 8):
TK sending A340 TC-JIH to MAN

I wonder if it was in the contract to use wide bodies for these trips. Otherwise it is a waste of capacity to carry 65 pax on a A343. It might have been a better PR if TK sent the ManU logojet 738 for the trip.


User currently offlinestylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14764 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Yesterday even the PM mentioned about the delays at IST and the necessity of a 3rd airport in Istanbul

the delays are becoming more and more (and we are not even in the summer months!!!). just some examples from my own experience:
out of 10 flights from/to IST within the last 14days in total 8 had delays due to slot restrictions (according to the pilot). in particular my MUC-IST flight yesterday and the very same flight a week ago had delays more than 45min. that is NOT 5-Star...

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Do we know if the new 319/321/738/739 arriving next year have the same interiors as the new LH fleet?

I don't know about the interiors, but do you know if the 738/739 will get the new Boeing "Sky Interior" cabin desing?

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-TK starts its 3rd US destination this week, IAD
Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 2):
Now it appears at 4w instead of 5w as announced earlier... Or am i seeing it wrong?

yes you are right, I was also suprised to see that. Looking for the week 08NOV - 14NOV the CRS says:
MO no flight
TU 330
SA) and Rheintalflug (Austria)">WE no flight
TH 330
FR 77W
SA no flight
SU 77W

Quoting bahadir (Reply 3):

I am planning to be on the IST-IAD flight Nov. 6th.. It shows as 777. I wonder if it will be the new one..

First Class is available for selling on this flight so it seems like one of the JetAirways aircraft, but as we all know, its TK so everything is possible 


User currently offlinerobcol99 From Turkey, joined Jun 2004, 293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14745 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 7):
TK787,
I can understand Hadj flights being full.. What I don't get is why TK send this premium equipment to the Hadj flight instead of using their but ugly Air Jamaica 340s or 330s that they are leasing from SAGA (if they are still doing it)

TK is using TC-JIJ and TC-JIK mostly for Hadj flights nowadays.

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 10):
I don't know about the interiors, but do you know if the 738/739 will get the new Boeing "Sky Interior" cabin desing?

yes.


User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14719 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 3):

Its your lucky day, according to GDS its a new 777. See link below:

http://airlineroute.net/2010/11/01/tk-hkgbomiad-w10update/

[Edited 2010-11-01 02:58:33]

User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14617 times:

About the idea of building a 3rd airport and the capacity limits in Istanbul.. I recently flew to Ankara ESB and on the landing, I noticed that there is a huge empty area around the airport. Why dont TK utilize ESB instead of IST?

If TK is going to be a global player and an airline which will rely on connection traffic, then there is no reason that the main hub is IST, it might as well be ESB, which is expandable.

What do you think? Would it be feasible?



You have to have your heart in the business and the business in your heart. -Thomas J Watson
User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14598 times:

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 13):

I doubt ESB can be an alternative hub to IST. Major hubs around the world are also major commercial centres. Like LHR, FRA, DXB, CDG, JFK etc.

[Edited 2010-11-01 07:12:09]

User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2135 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14577 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
By then the leased 4 x 77Ws from 9W would leave.

When will TK start returning 77Ws to 9W? Does anyone know what will become of these aircraft?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14577 times:

I agree with tcm.
Even SAW can't be an alternative to IST with ample room to build more runways.
Istanbul is the heart of the country with a huge population base. Business is there, workforce is there, cargo..
In short; location, location, location.


User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14570 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 15):

AFAIK, TK will return the leased a/c to 9W from August 2011 onwards.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14533 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 15):
When will TK start returning 77Ws to 9W?

I have a feeling we might see these 4 frames finding new homes earlier than August 2011. TK doesn't need them come January when TK has its own 5 frames and traffic drops in Turkey. 9W might want them back earlier also. If not there are no 77Ws avail out there, so no problems leasing them. TK needs to standardize its premium product, get rid of F, especially during winter months.


User currently offlinepilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2537 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14505 times:

I had the chance to pilot TC-JNI our new A330-300. Flew her from IST-DKR

The aircraft is quite different from the -200 as far as flying characteristics go, much more stable on approach and easier to command on the lateral axis

The new engines are rolls royce trent, and operate on N3 and EPR  



The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14481 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 18):

The following report by Bangalore aviation mentions July 2011.

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201...irlines-takes-delivery-of-its.html

However, there is also a report by ATW Online saying that they will return the a/c by end of December this year.

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...sion-ordering-747-8s-or-a380s-1012

TK confusion full swing!!!

I completely agree that TK needs to standardise its product as soon as possible. There is a serious consistency problem with TK at present.


User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14471 times:

Quoting pilotaydin (Reply 19):

Congratulations!!! Pls keep up with further details!


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14464 times:

Quoting pilotaydin (Reply 19):
The new engines are rolls royce trent

Nice to see you here Pilotaydin,
About the trents, I know the new 332 coming next July has also trents. Is there a plan to re-engine the older 332s?


User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1757 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14450 times:

Quoting pilotaydin (Reply 19):
The aircraft is quite different from the -200 as far as flying characteristics go, much more stable on approach and easier to command on the lateral axis

Why don't you tell us the truth, it was the CA that was flying, not you  



Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14438 times:

Will TK soon suspend flights to TLV?

25 TK787 : Today IST-TLV is served by TK's 3 x 738s and a 321. Tomorrow 2 x 738s, 1 x 321 and 1 x 320 and a 310F Cargo flight. So there must still be demand.
26 LAXintl : THY will be doing some some promotional stuff with the NBA now. On December 26th, there will be a "NBA Turkish Show" at Staple Center in Los Angeles.
27 robcol99 : Laxint, The first A322F was re-engined by Airbus from PW to RR. It should be all RR from now on.
28 TK787 : Thanks, I just wanted to know since those 5 332s will be around another 10-15 years, maybe it might make sense to have only one type of engine suppli
29 virgin744 : Interesting, I'll have to look out for that.. Thanks!
30 TK739ER : This always puzzled me since they ordered the new batch. What was the reason behind ordering initial 332s with GE engines five years ago?? Isn't GE t
31 tozbek : Trents choosed most of the A330 cargo operators which is giving more thrust. On the other hand, THY wants to continue bargain force with engine manufa
32 tk1244 : Hi guys, Firstly thanks for this wonderful monthly thread! On Airporthaber (I know that they aren't always reliable) there is an article about a regio
33 Post contains images pilotaydin : Hello again to everyone. I recently flew IST-ARN with an A332, the weather up north is really getting close to full force winter ) contaminated runway
34 Post contains links tozbek : Everybody is pushing dead projects like Fairchild/Dornier and Fokker to Turkey? Why these projects did not live? Please read: http://www.hurriyet.com.
35 TK787 : Lucky you, I remember you were on one of the first flights to YYZ when that route opened also. Anything special you need to do, to familiarize yourse
36 david_itl : And they sent in A340 TC-JDL on the normal TK1995 service today. Wonder if it's going to be 3 A340s in 3 days when Man Utd return... or 4 if we add i
37 TK787 : TK must be hearing this a lot so there was this announcement on their website; "TK pilots get enough rest"; Uçucu ekip uçuş görev ve dinlenme sü
38 LAXintl : I hear over the weekend THY Cargo A310 managed to veer off the runway in Casablanca and its landing gear got stuck in mud and some engine damage also.
39 Turkish350XWB : When these things happen, they shouldn't even think about becoming a 5-star airlines. What does the most beautiful painted wall serve, when the inner
40 umit : We are hearing small/big incidents regarding to TK very often lately . Does anybody comment that if these incidents are normal and more or less happen
41 Post contains images gokmengs : Aydin Kaptan! great to see you here, now translate for us mortals what N3 and EPR mean? So let me get this straight TK will have 1 engine type for pa
42 stylo777 : so why we don't here news from airlines like EK, LH, DL, AF, etc with much, much bigger fleets?!?!?
43 gokmengs : Well EK DUS-DXB just made an emergency landing at IST yesterday due to losing a piece of its cowling from one of its engines. It happens all the time
44 Post contains images cuban8 : EPR (Engine Pressure Ratio) is the differential pressure between the inlet pressure (forward part of the engine) and the outlet pressure (aft part of
45 Post contains links and images TK787 : New 330-300 in TLV; View Large View MediumPhoto © Yochai Mossi - AirTeamImages Agreed also. In proportion with TKs fleet size, can you imagine 2-5 t
46 Post contains links TK787 : TC-JJG arrived at PDX for a paint job: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/5142386622/
47 umit : Actually , when I think of it 'Emirates had some problems of taking off from the Sydney some time ago ( if I am not mistaken it was due to wrong calcu
48 Avianca : any news on the possible GRU-LIM tag on? as per my understanding Turkey is in this moment negoting the new bilateral with Peru, would be great if they
49 TK787 : Here is the latest from the TK board: Among the new routes we aim to open by the end of 2011 are Dacca, Vietnam, Atlanta, Shiraz, Basra, Valencia, Ma
50 Avianca : well I can see if LIM only 2012... but lets see.
51 LAXintl : Well now I hear of another "Incident" TK A340 on Monday made a landing in Kazakhstan during a PVG-IST flight when something went wrong with its fuel q
52 bahadir : I think despite what has happened to thy in last few years in terms of fleet growth and service level changes not much has changed in terms of hiring
53 Post contains links TK787 : Little bumps on the Russia-Turkey flights; http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=haber&id=9929 (Turkish only) Apparently Aeroflot wanted to inc
54 FLYYUL : So Canada expansion is therefore delayed?
55 LAXintl : No point in setting plans for Canada, as the airline has zero control of the outcome as its all reliant on the Canadian government relaxing the air-se
56 LX1800 : Yeah, really acting like a 5-star airline, comfort class not even bookable on their website while it's pretty clear where and when comfort class will
57 Post contains links TK787 : Looks like this has resolved, Aeroflot given 3 dailies to IST, now TK can go back up to 4 daily to Moscow from IST. Sounds like part of the deal Ukra
58 pilotaydin : N3 is the turbine speed for a 3 shaft engine, the trents we have on the -300 have 3 shafts, so it is the speed of the highpressure shaft within the o
59 TK787 : Thanks Pilotaydin as always, Over the years I for one learned many things from your posts here or other threads, next time you are in NYC beers are on
60 wingedtaurus : I keep thinking the next natural market for TK in Latin America is MEX. but because of the altitude the flight has many restrictions. IST-MEX is 1143
61 tcm : I certainly agree that there are people in the Turkish Media and Aviation sites that have little knowledge about Aviation in general. I also would agr
62 david_itl : TK1983 and TK1987 diverrted from LHR to MAN around 01.15 so as to not impinge on the total night-time movement quota in place at LHR. TK1987 landed at
63 virgin744 : Baha, Why dont THY senior management recognise their shortcummings in this area and address it? Surely any airline worth its salt prides itself first
64 umit : I think this has to the something with the culture that this specific sector has and sooner or later they will have to get familiar to work with othe
65 stylo777 : there is a nice video of the manufacturing and delivery of TKs first 77W on their facebook fan page
66 globalflyer : Sorry if I missed this, but since 07 Nov has come and gone, ATL still has no word on the announcement of service by TK via IAD. I wonder why it was on
67 LAXintl : As far as pilots and the military, there is strong historical precedent for that, and there has been almost an exclusive flow through of pilots from t
68 virgin744 : LAX, This is very true, sad to say we dont hear about issues coming to light until a tragedy occurs...One has to hope that THY senior management recog
69 umit : One thing that conforts me is that current management has been able to make rational decisions in last several years. So ,what would stop them being r
70 Northstar80 : 99% of those rational decisions come from consulting firms, voiced by TK management. I have heard more than once - on different occasions, that, TK's
71 Post contains images umit : This is irrational then again my question still hangs there, I would find it hard to believe that TK management being smart enough to work with consu
72 Northstar80 : Consulting companies, tell the airline company (or whatever business) what to do. They cannot go in and do the work themselves, they just guide the ai
73 Post contains links TK787 : http://airlineroute.net/2010/11/08/tk-s11-update1/ IST-JFK to go double daily 77W starting April 2011. Wow!
74 Post contains images gokmengs : Thanks aydin for taking time to respond to our curious questions. I agree with your post completely. Add me to that list, I've asked him endless ques
75 tcm : It seems that the leased 9W a/c will be returned from summer 2011 onwards. I hope they will manage the fleet in such a way that they will offer the va
76 Post contains links globalflyer : Now it looks like TK will add ATL/MIA/BOS/DTW/IAH in the future: Three days after celebrating the launch of its Istanbul Ataturk-Washington Dulles ser
77 MAH4546 : From my sources at MIA, a winter 2011 MIA-IST launch is pretty much a done deal. Though a lot can happen between now and then.
78 Post contains links TK787 : 3rd 77W for TK is back at Paine Field after the paint job at PDX. I can't make out the name, but looks like a five letter word, maybe HIDIV??? http://
79 pilotaydin : Hello to everyone Back in the day, aviation was a very compact and closed sector in turkey. Not many flight schools existed, and there were not many e
80 Post contains images bahadir : Virgin744, there are good Turkish pilots.. THY is hiring foreing pilots as well. You are thinking from western head in terms of hiring practices. This
81 tcm : TK has a lot to learn regarding service from Asian Carriers. The problem with TK at present is that they are ''on the clouds'' because of their succes
82 Post contains links tcm : Two videos to cheer us up; 1- The new TK commercial featuring 'Grandpa' : http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1675257678426 2- The production pr
83 TurkishWings : Is it Sertab Erener who is singing the "Globally Yoıurs" jingle?
84 tk1244 : Yes Sertab Erener is singing the Globally Yours song and if I'm recall correctly the music is composed by Nil Karaibrahimgil.
85 virgin744 : It might already be mentioned in another post but I read the other day that TK say they plan to have 7x weekly service to LAX which I though was a ver
86 Post contains images bahadir : Both correct.. Horrid song.. Horrid way of delivering it even though both of these ladies are my favorite singers in Turkish pop. What happened to th
87 Post contains images umit : I think tastes differs tremandously .. I find the song very good in deed . as a matter of fact I am surprised that there were Turkish musicians behind
88 Northstar80 : Can anyone from TK tell me what equipment is flying TK1979 on Nov 14th? and also the loads. I will be on that flight, the TK website shows an A332, ho
89 tcm : Looks like TK will be sponsoring Inter Milan FC. I thought they decided to stop with such deals. Do you guys think it makes sense to sponsor so many E
90 umit : I think it has come to the point that returns on these sponsorships are diminishing...What would you think if for example they sponsor "say " an event
91 TK787 : From airkule.com; TK's Kotil; Şu anda 17 noktaya uçuyoruz, çok yakında belki 37 nokta olacak" diyen Kotil, bu kararı almalarında, kara kıtanın
92 tcm : More creative PR solutions might be more effective as you have pointed out. I guess TK is following the path of EK and EY in associating themselves h
93 tozbek : TK have 10 orders for 737-900ERs. Next year the deliveries will start
94 Post contains links TK787 : TK's website updated their fleet page with wrong information again; http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-TR...orporate/about_us/fleet/index.aspx 330-300s
95 Post contains images umit : You should also read the safety part of their web page .It is funny. They are still talking about 2002 and 65 planes ..
96 gokmengs : According to hurriyet the ATL tag from IST-IAD-ATL has been removed. My question is why was it there to begin with?
97 Post contains images pilotaydin : It was there to begin with because of the number of a/c available and the fear of not being able to make the load factor break even. But i think they
98 Post contains links tcm : The new 'Comfort Class' is still not available for purchase on the TK website although the new 773ERs have started revenue flights. I wonder what the
99 Post contains images bahadir : Aydin, welcome to my former 'hood' I will see you on Potomac Approach frequencies soon.. or on the flight to Turkey as this is much better option for
100 TK787 : Baha, Talking about East coast approaches, I was on US E190 PHL-LGA last night. I have done it before with turboprops, but it was a lovely full fligh
101 TurkishWings : As of Nov 22, SQ is eliminating the DXB stopover and goes nonstop to SIN. The flight seems to be 4 times weekly flown by a 2 class Boeing 777-200 ie n
102 Post contains images bahadir : TK787, I did that flight before on 175 .. 2 hour sit in PHL and 28 minute (ish) flight to LGA at 8000. You are correct about the speed , can't go abov
103 tk1244 : According to TFF the national football team of Turkey has arrived in Amsterdam with a Turkish Airlines a/c: Do anyone know if they travelled with the
104 tk1244 : Turkish Airlines is still negotiating with Embraer to buy two (?) E190/E195 for Anadolujet as far as I can remember from former Turkish Aviation thre
105 tcm : Actually SQ will operate these flights with their B772ER which has the "Spacebed" seating in J. There is also on-demand IFE i.e. Krisworld. However a
106 TK787 : Pretty much sure this one will be a charter/special flight, because; also as Baha knows; I saw a picture that our FB fan "Wing" took last weekend whe
107 LAXintl : Well TK did seriously consider both the EMB170/190 and CRJ700/900 families about 2.5-3 years ago including flight test by Embraer in Eastern Turkey. A
108 Post contains links TK787 : Great question. What I would like to hear how is the props perceived by the pax now that they are in ops for some time. Also Borajet received a BD-70
109 Post contains images gokmengs : Used to travel a lot with Galatasaray football team, they are special charters with the team, some execs and close to management club members, really
110 LAXintl : I hear Turkuaz had 2 A320's (TC-TCC & D) repo'd by GECAS over the weekend for non-payment.
111 tk1244 : Turkuaz Airlines announced that the two aircraft are returned because they are going to buy four aircraft and not because of non-payments. They also
112 Post contains images tk1244 : Thanks for the reply Anyone knowing which aircraft is used for this special charter and which aircraft will be used for the return flight after the f
113 Post contains images LAXintl : Sure - Thats why they were had delays of 8-10 hours in their network, and had to bring a plane back from Saudi Arabia to cover and recover all the st
114 tcm : Turkuaz also lost a contract with German TUI for charter flights due to financial problems recently.
115 LAXintl : I was reading that Turkey was negotiating with India for increased frequencies (request 14 weekly at DEL and BOM) and permission to add additional ser
116 Post contains images tk1244 : I know that it isn't realistic, just wanted to add Turkuaz' excuse for the 10 hours delay
117 Post contains links TK787 : Number 3 should be getting close to delivery. Any ideas what this bottom plug is for? http://www.turkishairlines.com/image...tograf_arsivi/comfort_cl
118 Post contains links TK787 : http://airlineroute.net/2010/11/15/tk-algnbo-w10/ Algiers, Dar es Salaam, NBO, Entebbe, Casablanca, Dubai, Tehran to get twin aisles (332, 333, 343) s
119 wing : Herkese IYI BAYRAMLAR" It's been a long time since I last post here.Before I start some of my thoughts I want to tell you a story.Its Turkish but I'll
120 Post contains links wing : Somehow Hürriyet is obsessed with "pilot sleeping".Here is the news from todays paper,only in Turkish. [Edited 2010-11-17 06:23:06]
121 tcm : Hurriyet was and is obsessed with TK for years. Mostly because of commercial reasons. However, regarding your comments above. Please also do not forg
122 Post contains images MeCe : Another example how TK management is unforeseen. They spend millons of dollars for their ife and cabin mod, planes lie down for modification for moth
123 pilotaydin : Iyi bayramlar. The plan to get rid of the A340s in 2012 is nothing new at all, I've been at the fleet for 3 years now, and I knew of the plans back i
124 umit : It is not just nice to see pilotaydin and wing back in the forum , it is also useful in terms of getting the right information . Would you be able to
125 wing : Well there are problems with the ATC services,but with the current level of traffic volume and the situation of the facilities I can say they are doi
126 Post contains images MeCe : 340's engine problems is well known before even before modification. Point is TK management looked A 340 which stay weeks in front of hangars; they i
127 TK787 : Mystery solved! TC-JJG, 3rd TK 77W named "YILDIZ". Delivery flight should be this week.
128 Post contains images TurkishWings : Nice... That particular palace is located right behind my apartment
129 Post contains links TK787 : Touch and GO: http://vimeo.com/17022387
130 TK787 : Saturday Nov20th, TK LH fleet schedule out of IST; 332: CDG, AMS, JED, DEL, KIX 33B: (BMI leased?) DKR, DXB 33S: (333 leased from Saga) MED, JED, JED
131 stylo777 : ...such a beauty...
132 Post contains images bahadir : TK's management is really interested in buying all new equipment but there are some nice 343s coming up in the market. I can understand Aydin't persp
133 LAXintl : The TK A340s' have two take-off weights variants; -311 with 257,000kgs and -313 with 275,000kgs. Funny thing about the former OA A340s, about 4-5 year
134 pilotaydin : There is also a third, 262,000 as well
135 Post contains links thereandback : http://www.havayolu101.com/wp-conten...00-THY-Business-Class-ReklamII.jpg this new ad for TK's business class looks good but the paragraph on the bott
136 TK787 : Maybe a Puerto Rican from Loisaida. If it was my choice I would use; "True Lie Flat Seats" instead of "Full Flat Bed Seats", somehow sounds better.
137 tcm : The middle seat in that 2-3-2 J configuration is certainly no "living room".
138 Post contains images Turkish350XWB : It depends on the family you grew up... Some people will feel like being in their living room when they sit stuck in the middle, between others...
139 Post contains images tcm : Never thought of that If the Swedish women volleyball team were to be flying, I guess I would not mind that middle seat that much
140 TK787 : Great one! Many years back, on a SAS MD80 flight, IST-CPH, I sat in the same row with 5 Swedish models returning home from a fashion show in Istanbul
141 LAXintl : Turkish Airlines is launching a code-share with Garuda Indonesian Airlines on the Jakarta services. GA will add its code on the IST-SIN-CGK flight. A
142 pilotaydin : anyone interested in starting a website for turkish aviation, but as the anti thesis for airport haber and airkule...we would be true professionals wr
143 TurkishWings : I have no idea about how to start a website but I am totally in.. I hate those "SOK SOK SOK" news of the clueless media (Hurriyet in particular)
144 OA260 : Your right nice advert but its uncomfortable to read. They need to check these things before releasing , attention to detail is everything.
145 TK773ER : G'day to everyone here nice to see and read some comments especially from pilotaydin and wings good work keep up the real stuff. I just wanted to ask
146 Post contains links debonair : TURKUAZ AIRLINES stopped all domestic flights. There are rumors, that TRK was no longer able to pay the a/c-lease. http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_d
147 LAXintl : More than rumors -- they had two a/c repo'd last week. See reply 110.
148 wing : I talked with one of my friends who flies for Turkuaz,he said they are being paid normally for the last 2 months,they have made a 2 year contract for
149 Post contains images pilotaydin : Wing I havent seen you in a long time, congrats on killing bucaspor puhahah As for the kind words, thanks to all... Some of my inputs for this week Fl
150 TK787 : TK 773ER news; -TC-JJG delivered today -TC-JJH, 4th frame for TK, first flight today, Wed. 24th.
151 umit : I am surprised that none of us jumped in to that idea . While I am computer illiterate my wife suggested that may be we should do it in a blog. If th
152 Turkish350XWB : Please check the airfleet page of TK. For the A333 they just copied the figures from A332 and put in a scanned, very bad quality seat plan.
153 TK787 : Already on it, emailed to customer@thy.com. I give them another month and check back.
154 Turkish350XWB : Better you give them a year... That reminds me of fighting against mills. Patience for you, TK787 !
155 Post contains links LIPZ : TK's general manager for Italy disclosed today the growth plan for the country effective from the S11 : - new daily service to Naples (NAP) - increasi
156 Turkish350XWB : Nice post, by the way. I think nobody would have found this forum... TK announced PEK going daily, starting 22th of dec and CAN being launched 3w by
157 TK787 : Thanks for the info, Similar plans for Spain, Valencia and Malaga. Any ideas why Italy and Spain ahead of let's say, France or UK ???
158 LIPZ : Maybe because they want to attract more passengers from Southern Europe in order to become a more important player in the Mediterranean Area. I was t
159 TK773ER : According to TK's website on the route map it shows TK flying to Ho Chi Minh City? Have they started this route yet ?
160 Post contains links TK773ER : TK is also looking to add another two destinations in Spain http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=66657
161 Post contains links TK787 : Here we go again, number 4, TC-JJH is painted. Can anyone read the name?? After much searching, I figured it out; Number 4 is "RUMELI" http://www.fli
162 TurkishWings : Are the new 777s all over the place or are they flying specific routes yet?
163 TK787 : This was last Saturday. Maybe after the hadj they will settle down to planned routes. Now TK changes its codes again, 77C (owned frames?) are listed
164 Post contains links TK787 : Here is 330-300 number 3 for TK; TC-JNJ "KAPADOKYA" http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonggun/5182575410/ and number 4 TC-JNK "SANLIURFA" http://www.flickr
165 Post contains links TK787 : See, it is not that bad. It only took 11 days. TK fleet page changed a bit about the 330-300s http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-TR...orporate/about_u
166 Post contains images Turkish350XWB : Yes, indeed they changed speed, passenger capacity and flight altitude... Isn't sth missing
167 TK787 : Hey now! They can't get everything right at once! Easy there. That is asking too much. -Length of 332 and 333 still the same. Should be 59m and 63.69
168 TurkishWings : A quick Atlasjet question: I see KK offers Business Class on certain routes and according to their website only 2 of their 330s have C class seats. So
169 777way : PIA have changed ISB-IST-AMS routing to Islamabad-Abu Dhabi-Istanbul.
170 Post contains images wing : Nobody but you?
171 stylo777 : Wing, are you on duty? the winds are blowing my roof away not even want to think about the winds during takeoff and landing... btw. does anybody know
172 Post contains links wing : I came from Muscat this morning and we landed with winds from 190/30 kts to rwy 23.The wind value at 2000 feet was around 190 degrees 60 kts.It was s
173 Post contains links TK787 : Please continue here: Turkish Aviation December 2010 (by TK787 Nov 30 2010 in Civil Aviation)
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