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UK Ban Printer Cartridges Over 500g In Carry On  
User currently offlineWoof From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

as part of measures in response to the latest explosive findings...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ff%2C_Cobra_Held_Emergency_Meeting

Damn, I never like to put mine in checked baggage.

[Edited 2010-11-01 10:23:28]

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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8370 times:

Yep, see them all the time next to the lap tops in the security line, how we gonna print during the flight now!!!  


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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2820 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8202 times:

Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah!

Wasn't this latest threat about items sent in cargo, not carried in hand luggage? Why must we descend to the level of the DHS?


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12625 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8147 times:
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I think this is a very sensible step. Anyone who thinks this is a knee-jerk reaction clearly hasn't thought it through. Oh wait ...  sarcastic 

Any innocent toner cartridge carrying pax will now go straight to the top of the potential terrorist list. I guess my airport terminal toner cartridge refurbishment business plan just went down the pan. Looks like the terrorists win again. Write to your MP to complain about another freedom that's been lost.

Seriously, does anyone think this will stop anything? These devices weren't even in carry-on.

[Edited 2010-11-01 12:06:32]


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User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 3):
Seriously, does anyone think this will stop anything? These devices weren't even in carry-on.

With all this and airline tax, I'm taking the Eurostar to Paris before I go on a plane...Though not sure of the train prices


User currently offlinehotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8111 times:
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Damn. I was planning on printing some documents on my next flight as well. Can I still take my painting set on board?


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8048 times:

Pointless action; today (or this week), it's toner cartridges, next week it will be something else. It's just an over-reaction; Surely, the best course of action is that nothing above a certain size - be it a radio, remote control car, X-box etc - gets onto a plane, the size being determined by the maximum size that can be put through a screener.

The problem is, of course, that detecting PETN is extremely difficult, as evidenced by what happened at EMA.


User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8024 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 6):
Pointless action; today (or this week), it's toner cartridges, next week it will be something else. It's just an over-reaction; Surely, the best course of action is that nothing above a certain size - be it a radio, remote control car, X-box etc - gets onto a plane, the size being determined by the maximum size that can be put through a screener.

The problem is, of course, that detecting PETN is extremely difficult, as evidenced by what happened at EMA

I think we should ban Fuel in the Wings too  


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8014 times:
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Quoting scbriml (Reply 3):
Seriously, does anyone think this will stop anything?

- No, it's just a pointless knee jerk reaction.

Has anyone ever seen a printer cartridge take as a carry on??



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6341 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7986 times:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):

Has anyone ever seen a printer cartridge take as a carry on??

I have flown on who knows how many hundreds of flights on 6 continents and...no, negative, never.


User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1408 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7916 times:

Strangely enough, one of my colleagues asked me to take one on a plane a few months ago (it had been sent to the wrong office). I declined as I thought that I may have problems at security either on the basis of the contents of a toner cartridge or, more likely, on the basis of "why on earth would anyone want to take a toner cartridge in hand baggage?... they must be dodgy".


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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 5):
Damn. I was planning on printing some documents on my next flight as well. Can I still take my painting set on board?

Probably not, but crayons are "non-threatening"  



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User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7814 times:
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The terrorists are laughing their asses off at this right now while they think of another innocuous device to build a bomb into.


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User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7794 times:

Quoting andz (Reply 12):
The terrorists are laughing their asses off at this right now while they think of another innocuous device to build a bomb into.

A Cigarette carton, or a barcardi duty free bottle lol, or maybe a boarding pass  


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7710 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7756 times:

What's that loud clicking noise I hear?? Ah yes - knees jerking violently.


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7724 times:
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Quoting andz (Reply 12):
The terrorists are laughing their asses off at this right now while they think of another innocuous device to build a bomb into.

- Sadly you are most likely right, I'm sure they dervie great plasure out of our inconvenience.



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6723 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7487 times:

A 500g or more cartridge goes into a big laser printer that you'll have trouble carrying on the plane (and forget about powering it, it needs a massive amount of energy). However I could see the point of carrying the cartridge versus putting it in a checked bag, if you have to travel with it (say, you're an IT guy like me) : they can be very expensive, we're talking hundreds of dollars.


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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Quoting Glom (Reply 2):
Wasn't this latest threat about items sent in cargo, not carried in hand luggage? Why must we descend to the level of the DHS?

So true. As soon as the news broke, we here in Los Angeles heard about how there would be increased security at LAX for pax. Why? Nothing in this current scheme involved anything to do with Los Angeles, nor passengers boarding planes at LAX, especially domestic flights.

If one were a conspiracy theorist, one might notice that this all happened right as the new "we can molest you and you can't say no" rules were being implemented. And for good measure, local TV sent reporters to LAX and showed some "man on the street" responses, ALL OF THEM IN FAVOR OF THE NEW GENITAL PAT DOWNS, and some stupid enough to connect them to the toner bombs in cargo jets. Yeah, right. They didn't cherry pick those interviews or anything as the propaganda arm of the government. Not one person they talked to even questioned the need for groping? Right...

Similar to how the Clinton administration increased "security" after TWA800, including moratoria on parking close to terminals and curbside checking of bags, despite them also saying as soon as it happened that it wasn't a terrorist act. Few people questioned how those two things were connected either, unless there was something they weren't (and still aren't) telling us...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlinechootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7413 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 16):
(say, you're an IT guy like me)

.....Is it now illegal to be a GEEK????      



chootie
User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3654 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7384 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 17):
If one were a conspiracy theorist, one might notice that this all happened right as the new "we can molest you and you can't say no" rules were being implemented. And for good measure, local TV sent reporters to LAX and showed some "man on the street" responses, ALL OF THEM IN FAVOR OF THE NEW GENITAL PAT DOWNS, and some stupid enough to connect them to the toner bombs in cargo jets. Yeah, right. They didn't cherry pick those interviews or anything as the propaganda arm of the government. Not one person they talked to even questioned the need for groping? Right...

Also came right after BA Chairman's comments about relaxing security measures. The event had nothing to do with carry-ons and passenger planes, but, whatever makes people feel safer...what if someone hides a 500g cartrige in his genitals area??

[Edited 2010-11-01 15:06:10]

User currently offlinealangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7301 times:

[quote=lewis,reply=19]Also came right after BA Chairman's comments about relaxing security measures. The event had nothing to do with carry-ons and passenger planes, but, whatever makes people feel safer...what if someone hides a 500g cartrige in his genitals area??

/quote]

They should be banned. If people spill the toner it will go every where - hours to clean up..


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7235 times:

Quoting lewis (Reply 19):
what if someone hides a 500g cartrige in his genitals area??

That's not a toner cartridge, they are simply happy to see you. That's all...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

..this knee-jerk, "we don't know what to do so let's do something" action will affect precisely no one. what a joke, printer cartridges are not the threat, it's the PETN. Devise something that can detect PETN, Yes, it's difficult to detect but not impossible. Banning one type of container will just make the terrorists look for another container, and then our leaders will add that to the banned list. .

In later news, all passengers banned from wearing clothes on flights as terrorists devise an exploding suit.

Will the politically inspired lunacy ever end??


User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6766 times:

My goodness, it's a tragedy - I won't be able to take my all-important printer cartridges on holiday with me...  

I could imagine a ban on them in checked baggage/cargo holds - but why would you need them in carry on bags?


User currently offlinekearnet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6725 times:

I knew I kept my old dot matrix around for a reason (Can you imagine sitting next to someone printing out a 100 page document on an old Apple Image Writer? Here we thought cell phones and crying babies were annoying on long flights).

25 speedbrds : Airport security announcement: "Security announcement. Do not leave your printer cartridges unattended. Please report any unattended printer cartridge
26 ckfred : Here's an idea. Go find your old portable typewriter, such as a Smith-Corona, and take that along, assuming you can find ribbons or the old cartridges
27 soon7x7 : Exploding Crayons?...after the terrorsit boobs exhaust every item under the sun, then I suppose, eventually everything under the sun will be banned..
28 MAN2SIN2BKK : Next thing to be banned will be a full bladder as the fluid level may be greater than 500ml, maybe you'll have to pee into a bottle at security before
29 Post contains images BA319-131 : - Now that is just funny!
30 Post contains images r2rho : I would laugh...except it's not funny. These are the people who govern us that are taking these childish decisions. I worry more about them than about
31 bwvilla : I assume the main objective of this is about the placing of restrictions on shipping toner cartridges as cargo/freight. Then in order to not have a l
32 esgg : Breaking news! Effective from today NO LUGGAGE, whatsoever is allowed on any passengerflight. All luggage will be transported on a cargoplane flying t
33 Kaiarahi : Effective from today, no bodily orifices are allowed on any flight, unless such orifices have been removed from the passenger's person and placed in
34 PanHAM : I believe SKY news just got that wrong. It is highly likely that the journalists there don't know the difference between air cargo and hand carried. S
35 Post contains images readytotaxi : Hey, some of those airline meals have caused me to explode some time later, lets ban them!
36 Post contains images Fauzi : I concur!
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