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Air Canada's First Q400 Photo  
User currently offlinericardofg From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 23547 times:

Came across this on yyznews.com
Air Canada's first new Q400 to operate out of YTZ



With operated by Sky Regional Airlines titles, and no star alliance logo??

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User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 23361 times:

Quoting ricardofg (Thread starter):
With operated by Sky Regional Airlines titles, and no star alliance logo??

Probably located next to the passenger loading door or will be a decal applied once delivered to Sky Regional.

Nice addition.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 23243 times:

My understanding is that there will be 5 a/c initially, to operate YTZ-YUL at something like 14-15x daily with reduced frequency on weekends. An additional 3 a/c are reportedly earmarked for YTW-YOW ops in 2011.


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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 22776 times:

Now that's a nice looking bird....what's the configuration gonna be.....
and second I thought these were Jazz birds...what's up?



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User currently offlineFly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1038 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 22739 times:

Quoting thegreatRDU (Reply 3):
Now that's a nice looking bird....what's the configuration gonna be.....
and second I thought these were Jazz birds...what's up?

Wish I knew the configuration but...

Both Jazz and SkyService Business Aviation went to bidding on this contract for Air Canada and SkyService BAS won out. I guess thats why its not in Jazz colours...   Definiately makes for a unique look. I wonder if Jazz will do the QK colors or go for the toothpaste tube look.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 22707 times:
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Quoting connies4ever (Reply 2):
My understanding is that there will be 5 a/c initially, to operate YTZ-YUL at something like 14-15x daily with reduced frequency on weekends. An additional 3 a/c are reportedly earmarked for YTW-YOW ops in 2011.

Great looking bird. I thought these Q400 were to replace the CRJ100/200 and fly all over the network, not just a few select routes...?



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 22622 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 2):
My understanding is that there will be 5 a/c initially, to operate YTZ-YUL at something like 14-15x daily with reduced frequency on weekends. An additional 3 a/c are reportedly earmarked for YTW-YOW ops in 2011.

How many -400's did Air Canada order? I thought it was 15, but please correct me if I'm wrong. How many will be operated by Sky Regional, and what will happen with the others (assuming AC did indeed order 15)?


User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1012 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 22556 times:

Nice aircraft.   I assume Sky Regional Airlines is going to compete with porter on the YTZ-YUL segment? Are there any other routes planned at this point?

Also, are there any information if the interior will feature PTVs, just like the rest of the AC/AC Jazz fleet? Thanks.



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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 22525 times:

Sky Regional won the bid/RFP for YTZ service for AC. Initial route will be YUL-YTZ with 5 Q400's.

Jazz has 15 Q400's on order to replace 15 CRJ1/2 with deliveried to begin in May.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 22315 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 8):
Sky Regional won the bid/RFP for YTZ service for AC. Initial route will be YUL-YTZ with 5 Q400's.

Jazz has 15 Q400's on order to replace 15 CRJ1/2 with deliveried to begin in May.

Correctamundo. QK also have 15 options for Q400s. I believe most of the CRJs replaced will be CRJ200 models, as these generally have higher lease costs.

As for the Sky regional configuration, there was some talk, I think on AvCanada, that the YTZ service will be all-J, possibly with as few as 64 seats. I guess trying to build market share with a very big Aeroplan clientele.



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 19246 times:

What is under the 4th A of Air Canada?
Is that a door that is not being used, or not yet painted to show an exit?



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User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 19172 times:
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It's the forward cargo hold.


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User currently offlinegmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 19092 times:

Wow, Impressive, any idea when there will be more painted? How about movement, any word when this aircraft will be moving to the island?

When does the service start?

Thanks,

G



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18868 times:

Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 11):
It's the forward cargo hold.

Thanks.



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User currently offlineACABlaker From Canada, joined Aug 2010, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18785 times:

These Q400s are the Sky Regional bid planes for AC running YTZ-YUL and YTZ-YOW. Initial flights will be YUL with 15 daily, they are planning to compete with Porter, interior is undetermined but heavy rumours around the office of all J class seats. Goal is to focus on that product as part of the larger picture from AC to provide more point to point service and redirect the main fleet to operate more Transborder and International routes. You'll notice more point to point service in Canada with a reduction at YYZ. This is to reduce the Canadian CNX traffic and augment US cnx's to International and vice versa. Example less YVR-YYZ-YHZ or YUL and more YVR-YHZ and YVR-YUL type flights as an example.

The island helps this and fights Porter, you will see United (Continental Express) coming up to YTZ as well driving the US customers on behalf of Star Alliance and the new AC-UA(CO) partnership for transborder traffic. There may be a reduction out of YYZ for Rapidair, during peak they run every 30min. Depending on the YTZ traffic this may reduce itself out of YYZ freeing up aircraft for the transborder push. But thats traffic dependant.

Q400's for Jazz are for RJ replacement with emphasis in the western part of Canada. Lots of small RJ flights out there that can easily handle Q400 type plane, whereas alot of the RJ traffic out of YYZ is longer range flights such as YQT, YSJ, YYG, YQB. Where out west YYC-YXE, YYC-YLW, YYC-YQR, YVR-YXE, YVR-YLW are all much shorter on range. Thats what I hear around the office, but again that can all change!.


User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 611 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18187 times:

I love the Q400. Looks great in AC Colors.

User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15007 times:
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I disagree. It's hideous, especially with the engines being a different colour from the whole rest of the plane...


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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14424 times:

Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 16):
I disagree. It's hideous, especially with the engines being a different colour from the whole rest of the plane...

Same colour scheme as the ZX B1900s



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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14148 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 8):
Jazz has 15 Q400's on order to replace 15 CRJ1/2 with deliveried to begin in May.

Are they going to run the Q400s YYZ-ATL? Because I seen the Jazz CRJs at ATL


User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 13549 times:
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Quoting MattRB (Reply 17):
Same colour scheme as the ZX B1900s

Yes it is, and it works well on the 1900 because of the low wing and low engine. Here if you look at it from the side you will see the toothpaste colour and a big dark green blob in the middle. If it was low wing there would be some continuity when seeing it from the side. Would have been better to give the engine the toothpaste treatment as well, like on the mainline jets.



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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13225 times:

I can't help but feel bad for porter....The Rapidair triangle will now be flooded with even more capacity.....
porter has yet to even make a profit...this could get even uglier...



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User currently offlinestaralliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12734 times:

Looks amazing! maybe even a little bit better than Jazz liveries? Bite my tongue, but it looks amazing.


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User currently offlinedldtw1962 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12025 times:

Ok. Now where is AC and CO going to park these birds for boarding and deplaning. Porter owns the new terminal
at YTZ. And I don't think thew will welcome either one of these airlines operating out their terminal. Correct me
is I'm wrong.

Chuck


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11879 times:



Quoting dldtw1962 (Reply 22):
Ok. Now where is AC and CO going to park these birds for boarding and deplaning. Porter owns the new terminal at YTZ. And I don't think thew will welcome either one of these airlines operating out their terminal.

Of course they will. PD hasn't been able to make a profit since its inception, despite holding a monopoly at YTZ. A new revenue stream (gate leases) will be a welcome addition.

[Edited 2010-11-08 19:11:11]


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User currently offlineczbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 971 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11455 times:

Doesn't anybody remember the days of City Express?

Give Air Canada a couple of years and they'll seriously start predatory pricing.

An all J-Class config? For now. Give em a year. Suddenly they'll "discover" a need to offer Y-class for those who are greatly inconvenienced by having to go all the way to YYZ.

This could very well be the death knell for Porter.


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