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Knife Found Under Seats On Delta Flight To Japan  
User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1097 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12939 times:

Didn't see this posted yet...

Police are investigating a Delta Air Lines flight from South Korea to Japan after a small knife was found under passenger seats, an official said Tuesday.

The Delta flight with 86 passengers and eight crew members arrived at Narita, Japan from Pusan, South Korea. Afterward, cleaners found a folding knife with a blade about 2.8 inches (7 centimeters) long under seats, a Narita airport police official said.


Here's the link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101109/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_delta


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User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12816 times:

Pusan, South Korea? What is DL doing flying there at all?

User currently offlinenoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12802 times:

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 1):
Pusan, South Korea? What is DL doing flying there at all?

Errr....it's the second largest city in South Korea, quite a lot of traffic to NRT I would imagine.....

One of the old NW routes.


User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12762 times:

Quoting noelg (Reply 2):
it's the second largest city in South Korea

Well, I just learned something.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7538 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12756 times:

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 1):
Pusan, South Korea? What is DL doing flying there at all?

NW flew there for years before the merger and has been quite successful.



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User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12643 times:

OMG .. not a knife ... jeez louise ....

User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12537 times:

G'day

Must be the item of cutlery the cabin crew has been missing after the meal service. Err.... does Delta still have the type of meal service that requires knives?   

Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineaviationbuff08 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12309 times:

Well It seems as if the security operations they perform in between the flights is working. Now the questions as to when, how, or why is up to the local police and DL's Corporate security team. I would be interesting in knowing the details but my guess is that these results are not likely to be released to the public..

A quick look at DL.com shows the flight is operated by a 757, which would be one of the asia interport aircraft.


User currently offlinedinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1060 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12189 times:

Just 2 weeks ago another DL flight from NRT-PDX had multiple box cutter blades found. Interesting that this has now come up.


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12009 times:

I wonder if someone accidentally brought it on board with him and then left it on the plane when he realized that he had it with him?

User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11986 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 9):
I wonder if someone accidentally brought it on board with him and then left it on the plane when he realized that he had it with him?

He/she should never had a knife with him/her in the first place; to me, that's the real concern.

Matt


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7247 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11896 times:
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Quoting MD-90 (Reply 9):
I wonder if someone accidentally brought it on board with him and then left it on the plane when he realized that he had it with him?

Bingo!

Has happened on flights from ICN to ANC before.


User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11798 times:

Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 10):
He/she should never had a knife with him/her in the first place; to me, that's the real concern.

Matt


Do you mean that it is concerning that it got past security or that they were carrying a knife to the airport?

I keep a pen-knife in my washbag as I use it for scraping off dead skin. On short flights the washbag goes in my checked luggage, but for long-haul I take it on board with me as I might want to freshen up in-flight. Inevitably the system went wrong once and I took the washbag with the knife through security. It got found and it wasn't a big deal.

The fact that in this instance the knife got through security is someone concerning, however it was found later which is better than not finding it at all. Not all people who take a knife on board have a malevolent intention, the overwhelming majority are just absent minded.

[Edited 2010-11-09 11:52:41]

[Edited 2010-11-09 11:56:24]

User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1602 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11117 times:

Ma says if you put a knife under the seat it cuts the pain in two.

Sorry, couldn't resist.


User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10800 times:

Quoting B747-4U3 (Reply 12):
Do you mean that it is concerning that it got past security or that they were carrying a knife to the airport?

In that it got through security.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2881 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10591 times:

If it was a small folding knife, maybe it fell out of the pocket or off the belt of a MX technician who was doing some standard interior maintenance on the aircraft when it was on the ground at a city? I have seen other tools that were accidentally left onboard before...


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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10470 times:

Quoting B747-4U3 (Reply 12):

Do you mean that it is concerning that it got past security or that they were carrying a knife to the airport?

However, can anyone confirm if a flight is not going to the US, Western Europe or Israel, then security may not be as high?

I recall a story my friend had flying from Korea to Russia Far East. The flight was full of Russian Mafia and their girlfriends coming back from a shopping trip (so she deducted from the way they dressed) and were all packing heat (the guys that is). This may have been before 9/11 but I can't imagine that it has changed that much.

Between Korea and Japan may have heighten alerts, but before we all jump to a tizzy, just remember that there are parts of the world where a continuous state of heighten alert is not always in effect.

bikerthai



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User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9708 times:

Pusan is a booming city that is trying to attract gamblers in the vein of Macau or Vegas. The cranes are working overtime trying to complete the glimmering skyline of hotels and casinos. I just returned from South Korea, both Seoul and Pusan, and found the security on par with what you would experience in the United States. Professional and thorough.


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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9638 times:

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 16):
I recall a story my friend had flying from Korea to Russia Far East. The flight was full of Russian Mafia and their girlfriends coming back from a shopping trip (so she deducted from the way they dressed) and were all packing heat (the guys that is). This may have been before 9/11 but I can't imagine that it has changed that much.

And you're basing all that on a deduction the way someone is allegedly dressed? LOL!! And I do assume yo're joking with the last sentence....in every way possible!

Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 17):
I just returned from South Korea, both Seoul and Pusan, and found the security on par with what you would experience in the United States. Professional and thorough.

Precisely correct! Indeed, it is easier to get through US security than in many parts of the world.


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2178 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9529 times:

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 6):
Err.... does Delta still have the type of meal service that requires knives?

There are definitely hot meals on most DL NRT-Asia flights, if not all. NRT-Pusan is among the shortest ones so it may not be the case, but 3+ hr flights do have meal service.
No need for a 7 cm knife though!

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 16):
However, can anyone confirm if a flight is not going to the US, Western Europe or Israel, then security may not be as high?

How a knife can go through security is easy for me. There are so many items in everyone's carry-on and so many carry-ons processed through the x-ray tunnel that i do believe it is impossible for security agents to see every single thing.

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 7):
Well It seems as if the security operations they perform in between the flights is working.

well said.

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 7):
A quick look at DL.com shows the flight is operated by a 757, which would be one of the asia interport aircraft.

Question is where was the aircraft headed after its NRT stop. Even a 757 could be US-bound, ie Saipan or GUM.



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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9275 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 18):
LOL!! And I do assume yo're joking with the last sentence....in every way possible!

 

I was thinking the same thing when I saw KILL BILL. That thing was much longer than 2.5 inches.

Thai



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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9226 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 18):

And you're basing all that on a deduction the way someone is allegedly dressed?

The witness used to work for the State Department in the Foreign Service. I tend to trust her instinct. Of course, she could be pulling my leg . . .

bikerthai



Intelligent seeks knowledge. Enlightened seeks wisdom.
User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9192 times:

It is unclear to me whether it appeared to be hidden under the seat or if it was on the floor under the seat. The former would suggest something sinister, the latter would suggest someone who got the knife through security (perhaps accidentally) and then lost it on the aircraft. Most of us have inadvertently gotten through security with some form of contraband only to discover it on the other side.


...are we there yet?
User currently offlinemho From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8384 times:

Like half-a-dozen razor blades.   

I can't explain how they were not noticed going through the scanner coming and going, but boy was I embarrassed when I got home.

[Edited 2010-11-09 16:42:20]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19516 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8307 times:

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 7):
Well It seems as if the security operations they perform in between the flights is working

If I read correctly, it wasn't security, it was cleaning crew.


25 DTWPurserBoy : It really is a moot point. You can make a weapon out of anything--just ask any guy in prison..
26 vgnatl747 : Not with loads like 86 passengers. One would imagine that's a misprint, or it's a pretty light load.
27 Post contains links and images SurfandSnow : The same thing they are doing flying to Manchester, England. There is always more to a country than just its primate city* . http://en.wikipedia.org/
28 r2rho : As long as no liquids were brought on board, everything is fine.
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