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BA Cabin Crew Will Be Asked To Reject Latest Deal  
User currently offlinenclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

News in this morning that BASSA will ask its members to reject the latest deal BA has brought to the table. The main issues seem to be that the Union gives up its legal challenge over the current conflict and accepts that BA can withdraw travel concessions again in the future if it sees fit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11723908

For god's sake, BASSA, if even Tony Woodley thinks this is a good deal........

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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

this is so predictable - BASSA have been trying to say this for weeks, but at the end of the day this doesnt matter so much...

for a start BASSA have to get Unite to agree to a ballot.. which could be hard work in itself...

BA has returned staff travel as a good will gesture towards the striking staff, to try and build bridges... this is being slapped back in their face.... staff who choose to strike again will certainly lose again their staff travel, which will mean far more strike breakers this time around... fewer and fewer people will have the stomach to continue the "struggle" when it comes to the crunch.

For those who still consider striking as an option, need to then consider that if another strike arranged, it is very unlikely that it will be protected under british law, which means instant dismissals for all staff who choose to strike anyhow.

BA have their new mixed fleet crew and their voluntary cabin crew ready to take up any slack from crew who choose to follow the BASSA leadership over the cliff. In additon the LGW crew who have been sold down the river by BASSA, did not strike before and wont next time around.

These are the last throws of some very desperate dice from a flagging, militant union, which is not interested in negotiation or representing its members, which ever way you slice this, BA have already won.

Those who follow BASSA over the next few months will be following its leader, who has already been sacked for forgetting that he works for an employer and needs to turn up for the work for which he is paid.

[Edited 2010-11-10 01:06:12]

User currently offlineA320boy From UK - England, joined Jun 2010, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6099 times:

Ok, I'm striking crew and I just have to clear this up a little bit.
(And I'm doing this to share information, not to be blasted for exercising my right to withdraw my labour etc..)

We have NOT, I repeat NOT been asked to turn the offer down.
Willie Walsh said the offer would only stand if all parts of BASSA recommend this offer to crew, so...
to give crew a fair chance to vote on the offer they said they would recommend it. Earlier last week Amicus, (part of BASSA) said they wouldn't recommend it. Then, Willie send a further list of pre conditions to the union which would have to be accepted. Such as saying that if we accepted the offer the union would not pursue any litigation against BA for various things such as the removal of staff travel to crew.
So now BASSA have said they will no longer recommend the offer.. but they are still sending us a ballot to decide whether we want to accept or not. Personally, untill staff travel seniority returns in full, I can't see any offer being accepted.

Now I'm not interested in what people think about striking crew etc... I think thats been talked to death already on here, and to be honest, as far as I'm concered its no ones business but mine and the crew community at BA
So any "sack the striking crew" comments will be ignored as they are just childish... and if BA did run the airline like that, they would be nearly 7k crew short over night... and thats no way to run an airline is it?
Just wanted people to be well informed before judging the situation

Oh and just regards the Staff Travel issue about it being slapped back in BA's face. Can I just point out there is two reasons why it has been handed back..
1) Two crew have taken BA to court privatly.. AND WON! with also £10,000 each in damages. so times £10k by 7,000 strikers... thats a lot of money to pay out.
2) Crew that work Xmas day have always been allowed to take a "cling on" on their Xmas trip (that we pay for ourself, on our own staff standby tickets)... the fear at BA is that if crew can't take a cling on/family member with them on a trip for xmas, they may just go sick, since morale is so low at the moment.

The ST was handed back WITHOUT seniority, some people being with BA 30 years... so not exactly handed back.

[Edited 2010-11-10 08:30:33]

User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6045 times:

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
1) Two crew have taken BA to court privatly.. AND WON! with also £10,000 each in damages. so times £10k by 7,000 strikers... thats a lot of money to pay out.

This is absolute nonsense. We do not have "private" courts in the UK. If a case had been taken it would have been heard in public and the court judgment would be in the public domain. A case like this would never be heard in private, the courts would never allow it.

This is typical of the lies that BASSA has allowed to fester throughout this dispute and I cannot believe anyone would be so gulliable to fall for it.


User currently offlineDogBreath From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

Quoting nclmedic (Thread starter):
Oh and just regards the Staff Travel issue about it being slapped back in BA's face. Can I just point out there is two reasons why it has been handed back..
1) Two crew have taken BA to court privatly.. AND WON! with also £10,000 each in damages. so times £10k by 7,000 strikers... thats a lot of money to pay out.

Wishful thinking on the part of Galley FM.

I've yet to see actual 'proof' that this has actually happened. Surely as a striking crewmember, you and your 'competent union' (and I use the term competent extremely loosely), who stated with much gusto "Don't worry about staff travel we'll get it back in 5 minutes", would have had BA in court in minutes.

Prove me wrong with factual evidence that this private court action actually happened and isn't fiction.



Truth, Honour, Loyalty
User currently offlineA320boy From UK - England, joined Jun 2010, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Ah you know what... forget it!

They wern't really the points of the post I was focusing on. More the fact that we were told to reject the offer.
You carry on believing the BA PR machine and the media, and I'll stick to doing what I decide whether its under the direction of my 'competant union' or not.


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 3):
This is absolute nonsense.

correct. There is no such thing as a "private court" in the UK. Sorry A320boy, but you have fallen for some BASSA propoganda.

The only recent court case was the one that BASSA/Unite lost, and like all British courts, the information on this case is freely available, see this link for details:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/1225.html

You might like to read this, as it explains why the imposition by BA was legal, and how your union bought about this predicament, and how they have not represented you properly.

I quote "In July and September, there were several attempts at further negotiation, some involving ACAS. A particular difficulty was that the two branches of the union were still not prepared to work together. " and "staff had not realised how much difficulty had been caused by the refusal of the two union branches to work together"

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
the fear at BA is that if crew can't take a cling on/family member with them on a trip for xmas, they may just go sick

cannot work out the logic on that one? doesnt sound like a reason to return staff travel to me.

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
The ST was handed back WITHOUT seniority, some people being with BA 30 years... so not exactly handed back.

Seniority will be granted back in a few years time.

Can I ask A320boy, what you expect to get from BA in return for a future strike?

The offer from BA will not get improved, the strikes will be less successful for reasons I explained in my other post above, and you could easily get yourself sacked for following unprotected industrial action.

Am interested to hear your views.


User currently onlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5972 times:

Anyway, it is the cabin crew who will vote at the end of the day and if they decide to go again on strike, well they will suffer the consequences, not the Union. I am confident WW has prepared an even better contingency plan now that will minimize the effect of the strike if it happens. May we recall that the cabin crew walked out for staffing issue on a 744 which was deemed legal TWICE by the courts. Cabin Crew only have themselves to blame for this mess.


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User currently offlinecharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Fact is, matey, if two BA cabin crew *had* won any court case against BA it *would* be in the public domain and would be all over the media (TV and papers). Unite could jump straight into court and get ST back for *all* strikers instantly. The fact that none of this has happened is evidence that you've fallen for another of DHs' little fibs.

A question for you: Do you think that further IA by BASSA and/or CC89 will cause WW to lie down and let you tickle his tummy or cause him to BITE YER BLEEDIN EADS ORF?. I suggest the latter.


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
Willie send a further list of pre conditions to the union which would have to be accepted. Such as saying that if we accepted the offer the union would not pursue any litigation against BA for various things such as the removal of staff travel to crew.

This is standard in any industrial dispute settlement.

think about it, two sides should negotiate, with each side making concessions to come to an agreement.

Once that agreement is in place, it should be honored by both sides. It is standard in all disputes that litigation is stopped by both parties, otherwise there is no agreement.

This is more a case of BASSA wanting to throw some more mud and hope that it sticks, so that it can try and implicitly guide how members vote.   


User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4001 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5744 times:
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I'm curious. In exchange for the unions giving up any litigation over staff travel removal (which is pretty standard stuff), is BA giving up disciplinary action against union members?


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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5710 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 10):
I'm curious. In exchange for the unions giving up any litigation over staff travel removal (which is pretty standard stuff), is BA giving up disciplinary action against union members?

BA will continue to follow the disciplinary process, which has been agreed with the union, for any staff issues.

BA have a duty to act to protect their employees in such cases.

Previous disciplinary processes have been agreed to be referred to ACAS for review, but BA will not be bound by their findings.


User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 745 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 7):
May we recall that the cabin crew walked out for staffing issue on a 744

Not quite.......it was at least 1 crew member off every aircraft type right down to the A319.



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User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
Now I'm not interested in what people think about striking crew etc... I think thats been talked to death already on here, and to be honest, as far as I'm concered its no ones business but mine and the crew community at BA
So any "sack the striking crew" comments will be ignored as they are just childish... and if BA did run the airline like that, they would be nearly 7k crew short over night... and thats no way to run an airline is it?
Just wanted people to be well informed before judging the situation

Actually anyone who is scheduled to fly BA during the strikes or any stock holders of BA have a right to be concerned with this. Even if BA did fire 7K F/As I have no doubt that they could recruit 7K people to be F/As in a week. Sure, BA doesn't have the facilities to train 7K F/As in a four week course but if they did they would have no problem replacing you. Have you seen how many people are willing to be F/As for extremely low wages??? Be happy with the plush jobs you have.

Quoting Edina (Reply 12):
Not quite.......it was at least 1 crew member off every aircraft type right down to the A319.

There are plenty of airlines who operate with the minimum number of mandated F/As on the A319, A320, A321, 737, etc. and they do it just fine. I'm pretty sure every airline here in the US uses the FAA minimum crew on domestic flights.



My opinions, statements, etc. are my own and do not have any association with those of any employer.
User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5615 times:

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
Then, Willie send a further list of pre conditions to the union which would have to be accepted. Such as saying that if we accepted the offer the union would not pursue any litigation against BA for various things such as the removal of staff travel to crew.
So now BASSA have said they will no longer recommend the offer..



Incorrect. The offer was presented in full from the outset, including all pre conditions.

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
Personally, until staff travel seniority returns in full, I can't see any offer being accepted.



A shame really. A few facts about staff travel:
- It is a non contractual benefit that can be changed or taken away, at anytime, without reason
- It is rewarded for loyalty to the company
- Crew were told in advance what would happen to their staff travel before they went on strike (if the issue is all about staff travel, why didn't they agree to a deal before the strike?)

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
any "sack the striking crew" comments will be ignored as they are just childish



Some would say striking, holding your company to ransom and ruining many hard earned holidays, is childish.

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
Two crew have taken BA to court privatly.. AND WON!



Incorrect.

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
morale is so low at the moment



Morale is only low because the crew wind each other up - they are responsible for morale being low.

Quoting A320boy (Reply 2):
The ST was handed back WITHOUT seniority, some people being with BA 30 years... so not exactly handed back



At risk of sounding contraversial... what has length of service got to do with ability to do the job? Why should staff travel be rewarded on length of service?



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User currently onlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 13):
There are plenty of airlines who operate with the minimum number of mandated F/As on the A319, A320, A321, 737, etc. and they do it just fine. I'm pretty sure every airline here in the US uses the FAA minimum crew on domestic flights.

Alitalia and BA have pretty much the same service on shorthaul : Nibbles + Drinks... Alitalia uses only 3 cabin crew for flights on M80 and A319s and they manage to do the job quickly and have even the time to have a chat in the galley... So why isn't it possible with BA. And why do LGW crew have to worker harder than the LHR crews???



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User currently offlinebastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1028 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

I am BA cabin crew at Heathrow on longhaul and not a member of either union. I went to work while the union crew were striking and retained my full staff travel. So perhaps I have no right to wade in on this dispute.

Personally, I think it is right for the crew to reject the offer.

Why?

Because BA continue to discriminate against people that took legal industrial action.

Whatever my thoughts, your thoughs, BASSA's thoughts on the in's and out's of the reasons for striking we live in a democratic country. We live in a country where we are entitled to join a union and entitled to withdraw our labour. There is no 'but' about this. This is fact.

To protect this right, there are laws that are meant to protect employees that belong to a union from being victimised or discriminated against. And to be honest, I believe this law has been broken by the removal of Staff Travel.

As some people have mentioned on here, it is non-contractual. It is a benefit that BA gives to us and has taken away from employees since time has begun for disciplinary reasons.

But can participating in legal strike action really be met with the same consequences as being disciplined? In my opinion, no.

Again, and only in my humble opinion, the employees who went on strike and lost Staff Travel have been discriminated against and victimisd for their actions. And I believe that the European Court of Human Rights will agree that this has been the case.


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Quoting bastew (Reply 16):
And I believe that the European Court of Human Rights will agree that this has been the case.

That may be the case. However, time for some pragmatism.

BA has now restored staff travel, albeit without seniority. Full seniority will be restored by 2013, and I'm sure if BASSA and CC89 clean up their acts and there is a period of "good behaviour" (and that doesn't mean giving in to every demand by the company, but sensible level-headed union leadership that understands the realities of the market BA operates in) there is every chance of getting full seniority restored at an early date.

I can say that from personal experience, pursuing litigation in Europe takes several years. Cabin crew will be lucky if a case in Europe is concluded within five years. Litigation is also very expensive (as Unite already knows to its cost), time consuming and uncertain.

Again from personal experience of litigation, settlement is a very sensible strategy, and simply pursuing litigation in order to score a point of principle or pursue a personal agenda is very misguided and often ends in tears.


User currently offlinethediplomat From Ireland, joined Jun 2006, 382 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5382 times:

Quoting bastew (Reply 16):
I believe that the European Court of Human Rights will agree that this has been the case.

and that will take how long exactly?


User currently offlinebastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1028 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

But LHRFlyer, it doesn't negate that the striking crew HAVE been discriminated against and will CONTINUE to be until 2013 when 'full' staff travel is reinstated.

Why does this have to be the case?

Why doesnt BA just reinstate Staff Travel....in full...now?

The whole seniority issue may or may not be important (depending on how senior you are i guess).

But I believe for most crew it is the principle of the matter. The fact that it could now all be ended now but the board decides not to. That they must prove a point and continue the 'punishment'.

And why does part of the deal have to be BASSA dropping its court case to clarify this issue? If I had been discrimiated against unlawfully by my employer I would want my day in court....even if that does happen to be five years down the track. No reason why a deal cant be done in the meantime though.


User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5338 times:

Quoting bastew (Reply 16):
Again, and only in my humble opinion, the employees who went on strike and lost Staff Travel have been discriminated against and victimisd for their actions. And I believe that the European Court of Human Rights will agree that this has been the case

I'm sorry but do you not think that the European Court of Human Rights has more important issues to deal with that employee perks??


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

Quoting bastew (Reply 19):
But LHRFlyer, it doesn't negate that the striking crew HAVE been discriminated against and will CONTINUE to be until 2013 when 'full' staff travel is reinstated.

Why does this have to be the case?

Why doesnt BA just reinstate Staff Travel....in full...now?

The whole seniority issue may or may not be important (depending on how senior you are i guess).

But I believe for most crew it is the principle of the matter. The fact that it could now all be ended now but the board decides not to. That they must prove a point and continue the 'punishment'.

And why does part of the deal have to be BASSA dropping its court case to clarify this issue? If I had been discrimiated against unlawfully by my employer I would want my day in court....even if that does happen to be five years down the track. No reason why a deal cant be done in the meantime though

Only BA can explain why full staff travel has been restored. I would speculate that the partial return is an olive branch to show it is willing to settle, and as I have stated above, I'm sure an earlier return date can be negotiated. Tactically, BA will not want to concede on the full issue until a deal has been agreed with the unions.

As for why BASSA can't pursue a case and agree a deal in parallel in the interim, it is axiomatic that if BASSA is pursuing a case through the courts then there has been no agreement.

If cabin crew want their day in court, then that's their choice, but 5-10 years down the line, they may well wonder whether it is worth it, just to prove a point of principle.

Also, having read the commentary on part of the deal concerning litigation (which Unite is prepared to put forward recommending acceptance), it seems clear to me that Unite want all of this over.

http://www.uniteba.com/LATESTNEWSUPDATES.html


User currently offlinethediplomat From Ireland, joined Jun 2006, 382 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5260 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 21):
As for why BASSA can't pursue a case and agree a deal in parallel in the interim, it is axiomatic that if BASSA is pursuing a case through the courts then there has been no agreement.

Maybe they don't want a settlement. Considering that so many of the Bassa 'leadership' are no longer working for BA, they have nothing to lose.


User currently offlinebastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1028 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5179 times:

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 20):
I'm sorry but do you not think that the European Court of Human Rights has more important issues to deal with that employee perks??

Please re-read my post. The issue for the courts to decide would be whether employees participating in lawful industrial action can discriminate against by their employer.


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4934 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 14):
Morale is only low because the crew wind each other up - they are responsible for morale being low.

Which in turn could well be due to a 'divide and conquer' management style. Something not dissimilar to what happened in the past at EI. Hmm I wonder is there a commonlink between the two?

Quoting A320boy (Reply 5):
You carry on believing the BA PR machine and the media,

I'm afraid there are many here who do, yet do not realise the power of the PR dept of BA and how many 'friends' they have in the media. I sometimes think BA could paper over cracks the size of the Grand Canyon.


25 LHRFlyer : Utter rubbish. The idea that BA can control what the media report is nonsense (you need only look at hostile reporting of previous high profile BA is
26 Post contains images Richard28 : The reason for this I feel is that staff from all across BA have helped keep the company running whilst BASSA has pursued this pointless action. To g
27 Post contains links Richard28 : You are wrong A320boy...... source : http://uniteba.com/LATESTNEWSUPDATES.html 9th November 2010 - BASSA STATEMENT We have now been presented with al
28 garpd : You should be concerned about what people think! It's the people that pay your wages, the passengers on your planes, the stockholders investing in th
29 Post contains links Richard28 : the acutual militant members are somewhat smaller than 7000... more like 3500-4000 strikers if I recall. ... and the replacement is already fast at p
30 bastew : The ballot has now been suspended by UNITE. Here is their release: Statement by Tony Woodley, Joint General Secretary: "From the outset of this disput
31 Richard28 : understatement of the year! Quotes from BASSA, 20th October 2010: (my emphasis) "Very shortly, later this afternoon, we will publish all details of t
32 AirNZ : It's most certainly not nonsense at all, but what is is the way you've 'chosen' to interpret it and portray it purely for effect. Anyone in the Unite
33 Post contains links Richard28 : No AirNZ, it is total nonsense. Lets walk through this slowly shall we? First, lets suppose for one second, that somehow this case got heard, and no
34 LHRFlyer : This rumour has been doing the rounds for a while and the central tenet of it is not just that individuals took their own cases but also that the hea
35 CrossChecked : To date, the ECHR has done very little 'important' work and, instead, wasted time and money ensuring that the least deserving people in society are t
36 Bongodog1964 : If two BA staff had won £10k each from BA due to withdrawal of staff travel, thousands of similar claims would have been issued within hours of thei
37 1stfl94 : I'll bite my tongue very hard on your first point, especially as I work with many of those 'least deserving' in your view but remember this. BA has n
38 CrossChecked : Appreciate your response and appreciate the will it has taken to bit your tongue..... And infact am pleased youve done so as this isnt the appropriate
39 AirNZ : I would largely agree with you, but I will also clarify my position here. If you accurately read my comments you will see that that I was responding
40 Richard28 : Two simple words.... Search Engine
41 Richard28 : this delusion that there is a £10,000 damages x 7000 employees gives a mythical total cost of £70,000,000 to BA. now tell me this, there are thousa
42 Bongodog1964 : One fo the duties of junior newspaper reporters has always been scanning the local court lists, sniffing out little bits of useful information, do yo
43 LHRFlyer : I did not say that there was no scope of individual cabin crew to take a case. Indeed, I am aware that some crew are taking a case (under the banner
44 Wrighbrothers : Surprising as it may be, i support your right to strike (not that I agree with the reason) however may I just pick up on this point. This is the wrong
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