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Outrageous New LOT Livery.  
User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1911 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43253 times:

A new livery of Lot Polish Airlines was just leaked on the CNBC Poland business news channel. Without much further ado, let me share the link to the picture taken by someone with his mobile phone:

http://img844.imageshack.us/i/zdjcie0013w.jpg

If this "thing" sees the light of day, I will personally make sure that noone from my friends and clients flies on LO. I'm absolutely OUTRAGED at the dissappearance of the Lot Crane - a symbol equivalent in its value to Delta Widget or United Tulip.

The Crane has been the official logo of Lot Polish Airlines since its inception in 1929. Letting it go is, well, just PLAIN WRONG!

Comments? Thoughts?


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User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43249 times:

I think it's hard to judge it from that photo, but it seems to look pretty good to me.

Brands change. It's the product you should be buying, not the brand. If they provide a good service, then who cares what their plane looks like?


User currently offlinemptpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43177 times:

I personally like this new refreshed one with some 'color'. I do agree that they need to retain the crane somehow.

User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1911 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43194 times:

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 1):
Brands change. It's the product you should be buying, not the brand.

I understand that, but to put it in your perspective - how would you feel if, for example, Lufthansa would retire it's own Crane? I'm sure I would be disappointed, to say the least... The livery can be updated, but to remove the identity associated with the branding since 1929 is just... wrong.



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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43181 times:

The LOT crane was ugly... and didn't look much like a crane to begin with. I think this significantly improves the LOT brand image.


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User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43045 times:

I did like the previous LOT livery myself.
The new one kind of reminds me of the old Northeast Airlines livery, only in reverse. It looks more modern.
You sure have strong feelings about this, but do you think anyone would avoid flying on an airline just because of the livery?


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43045 times:

BA withdrew the speedbird in 1984 as well.

User currently offlinegosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43048 times:

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 3):
I understand that, but to put it in your perspective - how would you feel if, for example, Lufthansa would retire it's own Crane?

I'm an Irishman living in Germany, so I wouldn't mind! I guess you have a point though. The Aer Lingus shamrock is something I associate with an airline that is "mine" since my childhood.

I guess losing some symbolism is the price previously national airlines have to pay in order to diversify and appeal to a more international, Europe-wide market.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6605 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 43044 times:
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From what I see, the crane is still there, albeit in a different, rather suggestive way.

PD: From the title of the thread, I thought there was something politically incorrect about the livery.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42917 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 6):
BA withdrew the speedbird in 1984 as well

But at least it lived on in the form of the Landor red fuselage stripe, and now the red & blue speedmarque.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42805 times:

The current livery is very dated and was in need of an update but there's nothing unique about this new livery, without the Crane there's no real identity. It is like Aer Lingus removing the Shamrock or Qantas getting rid of the Kangaroo.

User currently offlinedfw11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42660 times:

To me, the new livery reminds me of a slightly altered version of the former Mexicana.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 10):
The current livery is very dated and was in need of an update but there's nothing unique about this new livery, without the Crane there's no real identity.

Agreed, but has the crane been as significant to LOT as to the other carriers mentioned? I would say I haven't really seen much emphasis put on the symbol but hey, I'm not very LOT savy.

Maybe this livery will finally cause LH to buy LOT and reconstruct.

dfw11



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User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42532 times:

Oh it was a crane was it. Often wondered what it was

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Thread starter):
I will personally make sure that none from my friends and clients flies on LO

Safety record, price, cabin comfort, convenience and rewards are my priorities long before the colour the planes are painted decides my choice of carrier

BA lost its speedbird, AF lost its tick, Iberia lost its globe, SAA lost its springbok, CSA lost its OKjet. LOT passengers will certainly get over the loss of their crane if this is adopted



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User currently onlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42501 times:

Hard to tell from the photo, but is that a B777 depicted in the new colors?
If so, I think that is even more exciting than the logo change.



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42381 times:

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 13):

Hard to tell from the photo, but is that a B777 depicted in the new colors?

787, engines seem to have those teeth.

Quoting dfw11 (Reply 11):
Agreed, but has the crane been as significant to LOT as to the other carriers mentioned? I would say I haven't really seen much emphasis put on the symbol but hey, I'm not very LOT savy.

I must admit if I was to see the Crane on its own I wouldn't automatically associate it with LOT or Poland but as it's been part of the brand for so long it seems a shame to just remove it without any real replacement instead of giving it an update like what Aer Lingus, Qantas and many other airlines do with their logos to keep them modern but still a link to the history of the airline and nation they represent as national carriers.


User currently offlineLX138 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42301 times:

bmi Poland!? Looks like they've hired the same designer. Sadly it wouldn't be the only thing the airlines have in common right now! Really not as bad as I feared though. I do however think LOT have one of the nicest, most traditional schemes out there and the famous crane ought to stay.


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User currently offlinemax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42207 times:

I don't know that I'd call it an outrage, more of a disappointment to see the crane go. They should put the crane in the O like they do on the Star Alliance schemes.

User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21867 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42110 times:

Looks LCC-ish, which is something I hoped the major carriers would avoid.  

LOT's current livery is one of those timeless ones, and doesn't need such a striking update as this.

-Mir



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5158 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42010 times:

Quoting shankly (Reply 12):
Oh it was a crane was it. Often wondered what it was


I always thought it was a mosquito!



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 41978 times:

Looks much better that the current livery.

User currently offlineDelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 41941 times:

It would be a shame to abandon the crane. There's no need to lose such a recognzable logo when updating your livery.

User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 2014 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 41906 times:

I'd have to see a clearer picture to pass my final judgment on it but from what I can see I think it's an overall positive change. I like the tail, I'm a little leery of that front fuselage swoop though. As far as the crane goes, yeah I personally always thought it was ugly and couldn't see how it even resembled a crane. But for historical purposes since it has been with the company for so long I think it would be a nice touch if they could find a way to incorporate it into the new livery in some small, minor way.

User currently offlineORDFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 40573 times:

Actually, I don't think that hypothetical livery is really all that bad, though you're right -- the crane was a nice logo and I always thought it was classic and hinted at LOT's long history. It's a shame to not incorporate it in the new livery. I think I'm actually a little saddened though that LOT, along with IB and LH (and AF and AZ until recently) were the only Euro carriers with decades-old liveries, which I actually really liked. I think LO's current livery is actually very nice and the 787 images I've seen with it look very fitting.

Nonetheless, I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to say I'd never fly an airline because I don't like their livery or disagree with its update.


User currently offlineb707forever From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 40122 times:

Just shove the crane on the door or on the engines and it looks fine. Seems like LOT's wanting to enter the 21st Century. Let's hope they do something with their onboard seats, meals and service to match the new look.

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 40232 times:



25 klm77 : It looks pretty good but as a few people mentioned, the crane should still be around somewhere. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I know Tarom has a very s
26 ER757 : Me too - rather derivative, but I was never a fan of their current livery - just too plain. I can, however, understand the thread starter's distaste
27 B6JFKH81 : Thanks for posting that pic! I actually like this livery. There are only 2 things that I wish they would have done: 1) Do SOMETHING with the engines,
28 7673mech : I think they are trying to represent the Polish flag there. If they extend it - it will no longer look like the flag.
29 LHPII : Both previous and new livery are boring! Old one ugly, the new one unimaginative.
30 FlySSC : Not really ugly ... just boring ... No identity, no style ... looks like a LCC liver to me.
31 type-rated : Even though they have a good reason to have the red line so short, I think that it gives the plane a unfinished or "parted out" look. And I definitely
32 TrnsWrld : Wow Bluesky1976 I have never seen someone get so upset over the airlines paint job!! So much to even recommend people dont fly the airline ever again?
33 Post contains links SXDFC : That looks like a photoshop version of the new LO colors. As you can see for a "new scheme" it is faded in a lot of areas ( that are in blue ). Altho
34 exFATboy : Not bad, I've seen worse (TAP, I'm looking in your direction...), but not exactly world-breaking either. Two things I don't like: (1) The little red m
35 ANITIX87 : They can't. Remember, Boeing very strongly discourages painting the engines of the 787 anything but white or neutral gray, for laminar flow reasons.
36 Post contains images OA260 : Another iconic livery ruined for some tacky cheap tasteless one
37 Post contains images B6JFKH81 : I keep on forgetting about the 787 aspect!!! Mea culpa, mea culpa
38 Post contains links tymnbalewne : Here's some info on the history of the LO logo: http://www.lot.com/web/lot/logo-hist...CA9AAE540F01EBEAEC6D568D4AECC93.l3
39 Post contains images overloaduk : I love it the old one looks like its well really old and tacky the new refreshed one looks fantastic well done LOT
40 manfredj : Love it! It has an 80's feel to it. It doesn't fit in the beautiful category, but more of a classic look.
41 Post contains images Mir : I thought it was going to look better on an actual airplane, but...it doesn't. The blue on the fuselage is the worst bit, followed closely by the fac
42 Post contains images TravellerPlus : Hmmm.... Tell that to Coke whose typeface dates back to the 1800's sometime. I think Coke developed this about the same time American Airlines came u
43 LHRBlueSkies : Actually I think it's rather boring. With all the options out there, they've chosen a relatively conservative approach.
44 retrolivery : Looks as if whoever designed the new livery is taking a few leaves out of the pages of those who designed for current BD and MX. I agree 100% - it loo
45 ORDFan : Thanks for posting, and after seeing that photo, I take back my initial comments of praise. It looks horrible -- for some reason, the CNBC image didn
46 rampart : What exactly is the definition of "LCC" livery? What elements do all LCC liveries have? That non-LCCs don't have? Does it have to do with, say, progr
47 Owleye : It's only a sketch shown on TV... but if this becomes true, they are going to drop the crane... that's a pitty. At least they could give that crane sy
48 burnsie28 : Tell that to Coca- Cola
49 NZdsgnr : that photo looks to me like a photoshop version rather than the actual plane. The main gear wheel looks like it has been painted blue too, which I do
50 seabosdca : Some things in life are "outrageous." A somewhat disappointing new livery is not one of them. It's not horrible, but not great either -- it's too tren
51 kaitak : [quote=burnsie28,reply=48]Tell that to Coca- Cola[/quote If you're referring to the disastrous change to "New Coke" in the late 1980s (?), then that w
52 Post contains links and images ORDFan : Not sure if there a literal definition, per se. No element(s) amongst all airlines liveries are universal. Its kind of like when you see a car and it
53 Access-Air : Looks Like a copy of BMI......Thats too bad, I loved the current colours......Nothing wrong with them....Sometimes you just need to leave things alone
54 Post contains images garpd : I think it's ok. IT is a nice strong and modern presence which LOT needs. The existing livery is looking tired and dated. This possible new one beats
55 NZdsgnr : I think that your top one is absolutely amazing
56 Post contains images JetBlue777 : WOW, just because of the livery? I'm pretty sure 99% of travelers dont care about the livery , most passengers care about interior, hard product, ser
57 sofianec : Well actually both your concepts are WAYYY better than the new LOT livery. It is very boring. I think it's time for Lufthansa Poland instead of LOT.
58 rikkus67 : I agree. Much better than the proposed design... Although I have another idea, if Garpd and Owleye wouldn't mind collaberating: combine the fuselage
59 fanofjets : Kinda sums up my feelings. Most of these new liveries break up the fuselage, creating disunity rather than unity. I would have like to have seen some
60 Post contains images Viscount724 : And JAL lost their crane. In my opinion that was one of the best airline logos of all time with the crane combined with the sun of the Japanese flag.
61 JetBlue777 : WOW. I like the top one, wayy better than the new one. I especially like the tail design on the bottom one, really good.
62 mke717spotter : Hopefully they'll reconsider because the LO livery is classic, its something that shouldn't be tampered with.
63 Aloha717200 : Those are absolutely amazing! I'm partial to the bottom one, I love the tail design and silver body. Really sleek! As for the real world livery, I do
64 garpd : Funny you should say that, I am one of his associate designers.
65 aviasian : JAL was another airline that sent its crane into extinction and replaced it with a slice of seedless watermelon. Many were dismayed by it but today, m
66 klm77 : The second one reminds me of Aeroflot a lot...
67 Soyuz : What is the deal with eastern European carriers and emetic liveries? First OK with their guitar pick and now LOT? Thank goodness for SU. One of a few
68 tymnbalewne : During the Cold War I always thought that LOT sort of tweaked its nose at it's east bloc brethren with it's logo. Compared to the staid SU, CA, RO etc
69 Post contains links WROORD : Here are some examples of possible livery for LOT: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00000153 a little update without g
70 JCS17 : It's better than the previous livery (though not great) and it's a much needed re-branding. A.netters can say they want about the historical significa
71 Triebwerk : Well, the United logo was always one of my very favorites--and I liked the JAL crane as well. Now both are gone. It's sad, but if they had never chang
72 Delimit : I still mourn the crane. And now the tulip.
73 LH7879 : guys, I really have to agree with you totally. I think LOTs current livery is one of the few left which have this a little oldfashioned, but not old,
74 yyz717 : LOT needs an image remake. The LOT crane may have been around since 1929 but most of LOT's history (incl. the Crane) was under Communist rule. Under C
75 JAAlbert : It's like AA losing it's eagle! that being said, I couldn't remember LOT's crane, so I looked up its website. the closest thing I see to a crane on th
76 kubus : Instead of the big LOT on the tail, leave the crane there as was, maybe little smaller. I do like wave thing going and the reverse colors on the fusal
77 VC10er : Removing the "brand identifier" is often a bad idea. An attempt to update it may be a very good idea. Removing it, from a business perspective may be
78 FlyNWA727 : It looks very clearly like a rendering of the 787. You can tell by the tail design and the engines with the 787s signature "chevrons". Anyway, this l
79 VC10er : JAPAN AIRLINES INSISTED we remove the crane. They wanted it GONE! we refined it in the '80's and added the " cigarette line. About 2000 we revised it
80 Giancavia : They could have gotten round it looking so bland if they didnt write lot on the tail and at the front. They need a logo not flipn letters. Should have
81 BOACCunard : It's somewhere between bland and ugly. I can understand the desire for a more modern image than the current livery, but the crane should stay. I'm not
82 IFlyTWA : Absolute crap. It's a shame to see the old livery go.
83 jacobcal : I thought this thread was a bit dramatic at first but after seeing it on an actual B737, I thought it looked awful. LOT needs to head back to the draw
84 Post contains links Owleye : So LOT is inspired by your design work but...eh...eh... that new LOT logo you propose is an 'inspiration' from Lila Design's work... Comments? http:/
85 Navigator : This new livery is a huge step forward compared to the older one. This new livery looks really good and is probably good for the LOT image,
86 Flyingsottsman : I guess at least its not the boring Euro White, One of those liverys that mat grow on you in time I guess.
87 Post contains images JQflightie : I really get your point, it would be like if QF got rid of the Kangaroo... but at the same time every brand needs a refresh! and i personally like it
88 DocLightning : Welp, Mr. Bluesky, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I quite like it, myself.
89 Post contains links Owleye : I found this Polish news article about the new LOT livery change: Source: TVN CNBC http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1682073,0,1,z...-znika-z-barw-lot_u,wiadomos
90 kwidenka : I like the new livery too. I'm sure this is not the 'Final' design and there will be alterations between now and it seeing the light of day. I just wi
91 garpd : Great minds think alike?
92 Delimit : OT but...this has been discssed in other threads. Apparently the crane does not work well in Japan. It reminded their customers of everything that wa
93 Superfly : Why is LOT doing this? There existing livery for the past 40+ years is fantastic.
94 tymnbalewne : The crane could fill the empty space in the "O" in LOT. I'd like that. (but again, I'd like to old livery to remain!)
95 BOACCunard : Indeed. Mind you, I rather wonder if getting rid of it did much good!
96 Post contains links and images mozart : What crane? That hyphen thing on the tail? In any case, the LOT livery looked like it was a shabby airline from North Korea or one of those Chinese ca
97 Post contains images garpd : Found another concept in my archives. As you can see, it's based on my first concept.
98 hotplane : They'll be lucky!
99 Owleye : That's a little bit thin remark, it is not a hyphen thing. Do not forget that the LOT crane bird symbol has a rich, rich history: they simply cannot
100 Giancavia : Anyone agree it would be perfectly fine if they just changed the tail???. You dont need lot on the fuselage and written on the tail. Use an updated ve
101 DocLightning : One of the problems with liveries is that it's hard to make them unique and cost-effective at the same time. The more curves and colors and other ass
102 VC10er : Does anyone know the design agency they used?
103 rampart : Precisely. You proved my point. Cheap looking to you is not cheap looking to everyone, or even a majority. That Spirit Airlines image you included, t
104 Bruno : Not a fan of this new livery. The Lot livery is classic and will never be out of date.
105 Post contains links CEO@AFG : The crane is a beautiful bird, why not do it justice and represent it more according to what it looks like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11750646@N02/
106 Post contains links and images Flylot : Disappointed. -Curves used to convey modern dynamic company -Crane will be retained in a tiny decal in the front of the plane -To be incorporated into
107 ORDFan : Actually, my comments were directed more to your question about the universality of LCC livery schemes -- to which I replied, there really are none.
108 Post contains links and images Superfly : This reminds me of a thread I started a few years ago. Which Airline Looked Best On IL-62 (by Superfly Aug 13 2007 in Aviation Polls)?threadid=131495&
109 Eagleboy : Not being from Poland I have never had any thoughts about the crane. However the new colourscheme doesn't seem 'Polish' to me. That little bit of red
110 Post contains images flyingalex : Depending on their future financial performance, LOT may get a crane back:
111 WROORD : I doubt the Polish govm'nt would sell its share to LH knowing that they would be reduced to a regional feeder service under LH. Besides I always thou
112 aviateur : Not as bad as most, but great, another meaningless swoosh. PS
113 Post contains links flyingalex : Says who? Look at LX and OS who both still maintain quite a few longhaul routes. Likewise with LOT, LH would not cut profitable longhaul routes. If t
114 Post contains images aerecosse : totally agree - my first thoughts were BD - well the official one that got painted on some of the fleet........
115 Post contains links WROORD : [quote=flyingalex,reply=113]Quoting WROORD (Reply 111): Besides I always thought that LH has a crow not a crane on its tail. LH's logo is a crane. htt
116 Airport : So weak, LOT. So, so weak. It really saddens me, seeing so many timeless, iconic logos and effective liveries go away in favor of hip and trendy crap
117 Post contains images babybus : What is it with airline livery design guys? Surely copying existing liveries is like a waste of time. This new LOT livery looks like BMI. If any airli
118 BlueSky1976 : Well, looks like our protest (I say "our" because I was one of the participants who signed the petition) was successful. For those unaware: there was
119 Giancavia : Good job mate.. The livery wouldnt have been so bad if they kept a logo on the tail. Writing LOT on the plane 2 times with no symbol looked trashy.
120 thediplomat : LOT should focusing on priorities, like trying to retain a CEO for more than 12 months, and ensuring survival, rather than a nasty repaint that does n
121 BlueSky1976 : Lot should be fully privatized, in the first place. Until that happens, it will never be run as the true business enterprise. That being said, I would
122 Post contains images codeshare : The Facebook, forum and media action prooved successful. The action were mentioned on the news and the idea of the livery is in the bin KS/codeshare
123 Vasu : I'm sure that with a little tweaking, this will be a great livery - see no immediate problems with it at present!
124 Giancavia : Except they have no symbol.. why drop your historic symbol and replace it with nothing. Most retarded decision ever.
125 thediplomat : Wonder how much LOT spent on the logo plans - binned by a flutter of pressure from twitter!
126 Giancavia : Zero .. I think they simply wrote BMI into google.
127 Post contains images thediplomat : Thats probably what the designers did - not what Lot paid. Actually the logo looks like Air Moldova.
128 Post contains images Garpd : A couple more ideas I've had.
129 Giancavia : Second one looks kick ass. I think they really have to roll with a modernised crane for the tail. You cant just write lot all over the plane it looks
130 Post contains images flyingalex : I do like the second one, but the modernised crane doesn't do it for me. It reminds me too much of the Russkiy Standart logo:
131 Garpd : I see no similarity other than they are both in a circle. If you look hard enough you can see the BA speedmark looks like the Breast Cancer UK trust l
132 Post contains images flyingalex : And the hard edges, and the way the feathers are ruffled. Based on those two, there's also a certain resemblance to Iran Air's logo: So it looks like
133 Giancavia : lol exactly^ You can always find some sort of similarity with another logo because as hard as it is to believe there is only so many things you can do
134 VC10er : So cool that old IL! like the Thunderbirds spaceships from the 1960's!
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