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(Rumor) DL To Lease 10 Ex-JAL 747-400's?  
User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1780 posts, RR: 7
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 27302 times:

This story has been tearing through the company for the last week or so. Anyone have any firm news? There are lots more trained 747 pilots than are required for the current fleet of 16 aircraft. My guess would be the price would be reasonable because not many airllines want to acquire -400's. Thoughts?

[Edited 2010-11-13 15:04:59]


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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6195 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27313 times:

I can add that when the SF Giants returned from Philly after the NLCS, the SFO tower asked the pilots (a DL 747) how many they had. They said "16, but more coming!"


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27272 times:

Delta supposedly acquiring some of JAL's 744s isn't exactly the newest rumor, though in previous versions the talk was about buying them. And with the mass of 744 pilots, the international fleet bound to be stretched thin next summer, and the rumored additional longhaul routes, it would make sense to add more high-capacity planes if they can be had cheap.

That said, I'd take any acquisition rumor with a grain of salt, much like the acquisition of JAL's MD-90s (now, I am convinced this will happen, but as long as nothing is official), though if within the next week Delta announces their international plans for summer 2011 and there are more flights than planes, we might already have an answer.


User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27176 times:

Wow. If this rumor is true, DL is surely going into a frenzy over these iconic 747s. It's amazing, that at one point, DL was seriously considering phasing out the 744s at the onset of the NW merger, and now they can't seem to get enough. Lower acquisition cost is likely the biggest reason DL seems to like these birds. I hope this turns out to be true. I was growing concerned that, eventually, UA would be the only North American carrier still flying 747s.


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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1780 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27141 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 2):
That said, I'd take any acquisition rumor with a grain of salt, much like the acquisition of JAL's MD-90s (now, I am convinced this will happen, but as long as nothing is official), though if within the next week Delta announces their international plans for summer 2011 and there are more flights than planes, we might already have an answer.

DL is usually pretty slow to announce aircraft purchase/lease decisions until it is a done deal. Makes sense to play those cards close to the chest to keep the prices down. Once I see it on Deltanet then I know it's true. But with the 16 existing -400's to be pulled off line for renovation the additional aircraft makes sense as well as additional international flying for 2011.



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User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27109 times:

People in the know told me US based airlines go for frequencies and anything larger then a 777-300ER is a risk because hard to fill in weak periods. So no more VLA's for US based airlines. Period.

  


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6349 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 27029 times:

Hypothetically, if Boeing tossed DL some 748i at cost price....say 10....I wonder if DL would bite.

It might be worth boeings while, even at cost price, as it would spread the development costs across more frames...



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26992 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 5):
People in the know told me US based airlines go for frequencies and anything larger then a 777-300ER is a risk because hard to fill in weak periods. So no more VLA's for US based airlines. Period.

You're arguing with yourself.
Yes, carriers here go for frequencies.
But then you say that anything larger than a 777-300ER is no go... conveniently neglecting the fact that the 77W is virtually an equal aircraft to a 747-Classic.


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1780 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26999 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 5):
People in the know told me US based airlines go for frequencies and anything larger then a 777-300ER is a risk because hard to fill in weak periods. So no more VLA's for US based airlines. Period.

Anew 777-300ER runs about $220 million. The cost of acquiring used 747-400's is relatively cheap, add in the cost of renovating the interiors and you can get a good airplane for a lot less. This is classic Richard Anderson. Rather than pay $60 million for a new 737 he bought DC9 airframes for about a million each, put another million or two into renovating them and flew them for another 15 years. Same thing with the DC10--they bought up every good DC10-30 and 30ER they could find, renovated them and flew them for over a decade. A new 777 fleet would have been billions more.

Anyone who has set foot on an international airplane in the last few years knows they are constantly full--there are no "weak periods." And DL has the fleet flexibility to substitute a 777 for a 747-400 if loads demand it or even a 767. THeir ability to move aircraft around the system quickly is one of their many secrets for their financial success.

I'm looking forward to a nice profit sharing check this February!

[Edited 2010-11-13 15:29:59]


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26913 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 2):
That said, I'd take any acquisition rumor with a grain of salt, much like the acquisition of JAL's MD-90s (now, I am convinced this will happen, but as long as nothing is official), though if within the next week Delta announces their international plans for summer 2011 and there are more flights than planes, we might already have an answer.

But DL surely wouldn't be able to add aircraft by next summer, especially given that a deal has not yet been finalized. It would take at least a year for new 744s from JAL to enter service; let's not forget that JL's 744s are also GE powered aircraft while DL's at PW powered.

Quoting FlyNWA727 (Reply 3):
Wow. If this rumor is true, DL is surely going into a frenzy over these iconic 747s. It's amazing, that at one point, DL was seriously considering phasing out the 744s at the onset of the NW merger, and now they can't seem to get enough.

That was always just an airliners.net rumor, no one from DL officially said anything about the airline ridding itself of its 747s.

Jeremy


User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1190 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26917 times:

I hope it's true, any growth is good!

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 8):
I'm looking forward to a nice profit sharing check this February!


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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26841 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 9):
let's not forget that JL's 744s are also GE powered aircraft while DL's at PW powered.

but DL has some GE engines on the 767's and i think they are the same engines aren't they?

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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26676 times:

engine type doesn't matter....

 



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User currently offlineDl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26627 times:

Looks like DL is enjoying their 744s. Maybe this will mean 748s down the line when they find out some real world performance numbers.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5373 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26590 times:

Quoting alitalia744 (Reply 12):
engine type doesn't matter....

Exactly. Look at the 763 fleet where DL has a mix of GE and PW powered birds, as well as the 777 fleet where the ER's are RR powered and the LR's are GE powered. DL has never allowed a lack of engine commonality to get in the way of an aircraft purchase.



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 26591 times:

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 11):
but DL has some GE engines on the 767's and i think they are the same engines aren't they?

Indeed, both variants of GE's CF6-80C2.

Plus, Delta has two different engines on their 777 fleet as well, though in part due to GE being the only option on the 77L.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26091 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 6):
Hypothetically, if Boeing tossed DL some 748i at cost price....say 10....I wonder if DL would bite.

Boeing wouldn't offer DL "cost price". In fact, when it comes to the 747-8, at least, DL will unlikely get any special priciing (beyond normal industry discounts) because Boeing cannot afford to sell the 747-8 for cheap because the plane is already losing them money, so they have to sell them at a guaranteed profit.


User currently offlinektachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1805 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 26061 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Thread starter):
There are lots more trained 747 pilots than are required for the current fleet of 16 aircraft

So I presume they will dry lease them?

On the other hand, I heard a lot of JL B744 pilots are having troubles now because the company wants them to leave. Its a tragic story.



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User currently onlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8500 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 25714 times:
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The world is full is GE powered 744's, if DL wants some they have about 200 to choose from. Air France has a few they could through Delta's way.

User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 25715 times:
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Quoting SESGDL (Reply 9):
But DL surely wouldn't be able to add aircraft by next summer, especially given that a deal has not yet been finalized. It would take at least a year for new 744s from JAL to enter service; let's not forget that JL's 744s are also GE powered aircraft while DL's at PW powered.

Why not? A deal may already be made and DL mgmt could be sitting on the info to time it to announce it at time when they see fit. And there are tons of mx contractors who could handle the process reconfiguring them at the opportune time that makes the most sense to DL fleet ops. They could be the first of our 747s to receive the new interiors and cycle the present aircraft through the process. It doesn't take all that much time to reconfigure an aircraft when it comes down to the available man-hours.

The thing that sticks out in my mind is I overheard a few whale pilots discussing this while I was having breakfast at our layover hotel in NRT a week or so ago. According to what they were saying was, that this was a rumour that has been circulating for almost a year and that one of them has broached the subject to the programme mgr of the 747 and that theory was nothing more than a rumour and that there was no truth it at all, and he said that DL was having a hard time finding routes that would suit the 747 in the near term. That present flying was under utilising the 747 fleet and that gradually we're placing the 747 where we needed it. So I'm somewhat skeptical about us acquiring anymore 747s right now, unless we're adding some yet-undisclosed routes to our network. It's an interesting rumour, but it's still just here-say. I'll believe it when I see it



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 25452 times:

This continuing rumor would be really cool if true, but I'll believe it only when I see it official. Delta is already sporadically using its 747s. They haven't been used full-time, all of the time. It's not like they've been begging for more.

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 8):
This is classic Richard Anderson.

During his tenure as CEO at NW, I can't think of any used aircraft purchases for Northwest. In contrast, 2001-04 for Northwest was a period of fleet transformation towards newer, more efficient aircraft. The 742, DC-10-30/40, and DC-9 were either gone, nearly gone, or on their way down that road. New A330s, 757s, and A319/20s came in. I don't believe acquiring older, used airplanes isn't a trademark of Anderson as a CEO, as the MD-90 is the only good example. I see it as new territory if this rumor becomes fact.


User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 971 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 25373 times:
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I keep watching for new reserved N-numbers to indicate potential future DL aircraft acquisitions. As of now, nothing has turned up that seems like it would be used for 747s. However, there were 20 additional MD-90 N9xxDN numbers reserved on 10/22/10 (961 through 980), so they do seem to be going after even more of those.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 24851 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 21):
However, there were 20 additional MD-90 N9xxDN numbers reserved on 10/22/10 (961 through 980), so they do seem to be going after even more of those.

Interesting. 80 MD-90s would be exactly the number of all regular MD-90s out there, if you exclude the 29 SV MD-11 cockpit versions. This would indicate Delta has or is about to close deals with the Eva Air group and Lion Air.


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2413 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 24373 times:

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 19):
A deal may already be made and DL mgmt could be sitting on the info to time it to announce it at time when they see fit.

Such a large material purchase/lease would have to be listed in their financial filings.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17824 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 24346 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 20):
Delta is already sporadically using its 747s. They haven't been used full-time, all of the time. It's not like they've been begging for more.

   I'd find this very hard to believe, especially with so much new technology coming online in the next few years.



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25 airbazar : That has more to do with the routes they fly on, which require the aircraft to sit around for very long periods of time during the day. That's is not
26 MSPNWA : That's not the same thing as what is being mentioned. Waiting for the next flight is part of normal scheduled ops. That's not what I'm getting at. Un
27 aviationbuff08 : This rumor somehow continues to circulate and yet nobody from DL Management has come out and either confirmed or deny this rumor. I last heard this ru
28 delta764 : I think the 744 could easily be introduced on routes such as ATL-GRU, ATL-TLV and maybe even ATL-EZE during peak travel periods. I just hope we can ge
29 DocLightning : DL doesn't seem to follow any of the rules the others do.
30 flyibaby : Hasn't DL flown the 747 to TLV during peak season already? Anyone know how it did?
31 PlanesNTrains : Huh. I seem to remember others (and myself) saying that a USED VLA might be a more economical approach than buying NEW 773ER's (as an example). It mi
32 TrijetsRMissed : DL rumors have a history of taking time to develop into reality. I'm holding out hope for perhaps 2011 or beyond. Remember, the MD-90 rumors started a
33 keesje : It seems JAL will withdraw capacity from the Pacific. Someone will fill it up.
34 panamair : Actually it's year-round; the 744 is still scheduled for both TLV and NRT from JFK through this winter.
35 cokepopper : We are being told that the 74 will be on this route indefinitley.
36 zainmax : Whats the price of JAL B744 passenger version ? Is DL leasing or buying them ?
37 rangercarp : If current utilization is 11 or 12 frames, and they are adding DTW and LAX to HND how many frames will be used? Will each HND flight require two frame
38 rangercarp : With JL downsizing, they might be able to use a couple more ex-NRT.
39 rwy04lga : Leasing old does not equal ordering new and does not contradict that statement.
40 FlyASAGuy2005 : From the sounds of it, this is not tongue in cheek... Good point. The whale fleet is all leased anyway is it not? It's quite possible they will pick
41 Post contains images fridgmus : Oh how I would LOVE to see that! I'd even give Doc Lightning a big, fat, wet, sloppy kiss! (and I'm straight!!!)
42 deltal1011man : 12 of the 16 are leased. (leases start to end in 2015/2016) Note Delta has been buying good chunks of leased aircraft from the leasers. in Q3 they bo
43 Stitch : Depends on how old they are and what condition, but roughly you are looking at a low of about $17 million for a 1991 delivery to a high of $61 millio
44 DTWPurserBoy : Keep in mind that the existing former NW aircraft are being pulled off the line two at a time for their interior renovations that are supposed to tak
45 Post contains images DocLightning : *wags tail*
46 AirNZ : You must be getting confused Keesje...as that's usually the opinion on a.net I'm glad you're talking hypothetical here because, in practical terms, h
47 FutureUScapt : On top of that, there was an article the other week quoting Anderson as saying that there would be no "capital intensive" ASM growth in 2011. If some
48 PSU.DTW.SCE : This is 100% not true. No 744s have been sent to Asia for interior mod work. Interior mods on the 744s do not start until mid 2011. Keep in mind that
49 LAXtoATL : Well, there are competitive issues to consider as well. If DL is only considering Boeing options then there is no reason for them to do it, but if DL
50 yellowtail : Because the development cost is built into the cost price...as part of the cost
51 mogandoCI : except that you'll have to factor in high renovation costs, expensive upcoming D-checks, being at the mercy of high oil prices, and increased risk of
52 OA412 : Can you please point to all of the accidents involving NW's DC9 fleet due to mechanical failure or metal fatigue? What airline acquired aircraft as o
53 Post contains images keesje : I'm one of the members here that thinks capacity is the main driver in fleet / network composition. The combination of: Asia booming, JAL shrinking,
54 LAXtoATL : If the rumor is true and DL is leasing 744s that are 10-20 years old, that would not be a capital intensive acquisition.
55 Post contains links FutureUScapt : Capital intensive meaning aircraft acquisition in this case, whether it be brand new aircraft or not. Here is the article I was referring to BTW: htt
56 peanuts : Don't know about this particular rumor. All I know is: DL needs something. B767's can go many places but not everywhere. South America will see capaci
57 Post contains images B6A322 : What, you guy's haven't heard yet?! I was told (by my imagination) that these 10 acquired 744's would be used to fly Domestic transcon and/or medium h
58 PlanesNTrains : Well, they would be saving tens of millions of dollars buying the older 744's versus newer anything, so I think they could turn them into flying pala
59 Post contains images rangercarp : How true! Yet so often overlooked.
60 mogandoCI : Boeing knows very well that DL's only pretending when doing RFP from Airbus. For DL to violate their "gentlemen's agreement" means trading off short-
61 LAXtoATL : Ah no it doesn't. First of all capital intensive means capital intensive. It simply means they won't be making in large financial expenditures. Not s
62 Post contains links sxf24 : This thread is a moot point, as JAL has sold the entire international fleet, plus a few domestic frames, to a chop shop. AerSale Acquires 19 Boeing 74
63 timf : Yes, AerSale is acquiring them, but the article notes: "We believe most of these aircraft will continue to fly, whether as passenger aircraft or as f
64 STT757 : Rumor threads about DL acquiring aircraft I've read in the last few years: "DL to Acquire remaining four ATA 757-300s", "DL to acquire CO 764s", "DL
65 dtw9 : More like 60 MD-90's. You can also add to your rumor list that the Saudi MD-90's "are "coming to DL. And here's the latest one,that SWA and DL are di
66 smi0006 : I am curious how this rumour will interplay if it proves true with the VA DL arangement between Australia and the US. I could see some 744s being depl
67 DLMD90 : [quote=dtw9,reply=69]More like 60 MD-90's. You can also add to your rumor list that the Saudi MD-90's "are "coming to DL. And here's the latest one,th
68 bobnwa : Are you just starting this rumor or does it have some substance from a reliable source?
69 United_fan : Weren't there rumors on here a few weeks ago about AA getting some 744's from JL?
70 sxf24 : Since AerSale has never leased a passenger aircraft before, I'm not confident in their ability to do so, particularly with older vintage 747s. Beside
71 dtw9 : I'm not starting anything. Rumors are starting to fly around DL and SWA in regards to the 717's
72 KarlB737 : I find this whole thing amazing from another angle. Once Delta got rid of their 747-100s decades ago they never showed any renewed interest in the 74
73 Delimit : Well, DL extending the leases and putting millions into cabin refurbishments would seem to rather disprove your opinion.
74 DTWPurserBoy : Tis article clearly states that the aircraft are available for resale or lease, they are not slated for the "chop shop."
75 jetjack74 : And you're sure of that, are you? I would say that DL or any other carriers are unlikely to buy directly from another carrier without some sort of 3r
76 jetjack74 : There was an issue regarding the utilisation of the M9K-configured aircraft, and the trash issue is one of them.
77 DLMD90 : were they taken out of service? I wonder what's the plan to fix the issue? Anyone have updates?
78 LAXtoATL : While this rumor seems out of left field, I think it could (repeat could) be possible... I for one never believed that WN really wanted to add 717s t
79 seabosdca : 744D and 744 airframes can be converted back and forth fairly easily. My understanding, although I could definitely be wrong, is that JAL rotated the
80 seabosdca : Is this based on anything more than the reservation of a bunch more registration numbers in the MD-90 sequence? That transaction would make a lot of
81 dtw9 : Am I the only one that finds it strange that Saudi Arabian is replacing their MD-90's with A320's yet the MD-90's aren't listed for sale or lease any
82 atlengineer : Actually it could work in a 3-4 year time frame. As I remember, some of the Airtran 717's are leased (from Boeing) which I think expire in 2013 or 20
83 mayor : They didn't need to. There was about a two year gap from the time they got rid of the last 747 and the first route that could have used them, ATL-LGW
84 jetjack74 : But would it really be worth it to reconfigure an aircraft to that magnitude when there is little shortage of 744s on the market presently and forthc
85 jfk777 : Does any one have a list of how the JAL 744 has been disposed of, which planes are going to Transaero of Russia and which ones are going to the Miami
86 MSPNWA : At least two -400Ds have already been flown to ARG, and they reportedly aren't leaving there in one piece. I'd imagine the remaining D models will fo
87 SESGDL : MD-90s are a little absent in Delta's January-onward schedules; I counted no more than 11-12 aircraft in service based on flight schedules. Don't kno
88 DLMD90 : Yeah I had noticed that too, all of the newly configured ones seem to be M.I.A.....
89 cokepopper : The Taipei hub was very close to being a reality at the end of '91 begining of '92
90 jetjack74 : Shhh, thank you for update. We rarely see any MD88, let alone MD90 flying out here at the Seattle base, so it's difficult know what we have and what'
91 FlyCaledonian : Oh, I've never heard of this before. What were the plans for a TPE hub?
92 mayor : Not sure what all the plans were, but I know it was one of Ron Allen's wishes. I think maybe the PanAm acquisition and reduced profits put it on the
93 OA412 : They were essentially going to set up a mini-hub at TPE somewhat similar to what they have today at NRT. I don't believe that it was planned to be as
94 cokepopper :
95 slcpdxatl : Plans included nonstops to TPE from several US cities, (HNL being one of them) and TPE to SIN, JKT, KUL, BKK, SEL (BKK and SEL were already being flo
96 mayor : Wasn't this a thru flight? Didn't it operate PDX-SEL-TPE-BKK?
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