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SAN Diversions 11/15/10  
User currently offlinesmitty747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Appears SAN arrivals are being diverted due to fog.

Text: TEMPO 1604/1608 1/2SM FG VV001
Forecast period: 0400 to 0800 UTC 16 November 2010
Forecast type: TEMPORARY: The following changes expected for less than half the time period
Visibility: 0.50 miles (0.80 km)
Ceiling: indefinite ceiling with vertical visibility of 100 feet AGL
Clouds: obscured sky
Weather: FG (fog)

Most flights appear to be being sent to LAX.

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User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Interesting - I was out on the beach about an hour and a half ago and the skies were clear. The fog was very far off shore so it must have moved in quick.

User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Edit: removed my comment for not reading the thread starter completely. My bad...

[Edited 2010-11-15 21:58:32]

User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2467 times:
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It looks like US Air 191 is heading back to PHX:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE191


User currently offlineDl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

I've got some friends stuck up in SFO because of fog right now but this is usually the time when we start getting fog at SAN. I can't say I've ever had problems with fog at SAN other than a 30 minute delay

User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Awwww I was hoping it was the other way around and LAX flights were diverting to SAN!


Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlinerobo65 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

CO1426 EWR-SAN has diverted to ONT and cancelled their for the evening. Not sure what ONT will do with the passengers either bus to SAN or hotels in the ONT area. Some passengers may elect to drive to SAN.

CO1717 IAH-SAN looks like it will divert to LAX and will most likely do the same thing as CO1426.


User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

I live in Little Italy in downtown San Diego -- the fog is so thick I can't see the trolley stop across the parking lot from my building. It's pretty thick. I was wondering why it seemed so quiet!

User currently offlineUpstateDave From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

I don't understand why AS jets are diverting... With the HUDs & RNP, I thought their decision height was 100 ft. Is SAN not equipped for the use of AS's "fogbuster" technology?


"Once you fly, you will walk with your eyes skyward. For there you will go again." Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24724 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

I was out flying tonight and inbound to LA around 8pm or so from almost above Palm Springs you could clearly make out the fog bank out over the coast to the southwest which a bit later engulfed SAN. Once got closer in could also see small patches of fog in the OC region also.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting UpstateDave (Reply 8):
I don't understand why AS jets are diverting... With the HUDs & RNP, I thought their decision height was 100 ft. Is SAN not equipped for the use of AS's "fogbuster" technology?

Unless they're shooting a CAT II or III (and I think SAN only has CAT I) decision height doesn't matter. If they have the same ILS charts we do, the visibility needed is 1 mile. So it appears no one had the vis to shoot the approach.



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5334 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Ahhhh.... Lindbergh op's in November... the childhood memories! Many the year when the Thanksgiving holiday rush was fouled up big-time by mother nature's beautiful fog banks!

bb


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4760 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1728 times:
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Yup, it's that time of year again! Right on cue with Thanksgiving approaching. Heh...

Things caught up fairly quickly this morning...



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6077 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Quoting UpstateDave (Reply 8):

SAN is not CAT III and has high min's due to terrain. AS is like everyone else when it comes to landing at SAN. If the airport doesn't have the capabilities the AS flights can use, then AS has to use the basic ILS approach. AS is not the only carrier with HUD's diverting.

RNP only works if you have and RNP approach! No RNP approach to SAN.



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