smitty747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2657 times:
Appears SAN arrivals are being diverted due to fog.
Text: TEMPO 1604/1608 1/2SM FG VV001
Forecast period: 0400 to 0800 UTC 16 November 2010
Forecast type: TEMPORARY: The following changes expected for less than half the time period
Visibility: 0.50 miles (0.80 km)
Ceiling: indefinite ceiling with vertical visibility of 100 feet AGL
Clouds: obscured sky
Weather: FG (fog)
Dl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2561 times:
I've got some friends stuck up in SFO because of fog right now but this is usually the time when we start getting fog at SAN. I can't say I've ever had problems with fog at SAN other than a 30 minute delay
robo65 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2479 times:
CO1426 EWR-SAN has diverted to ONT and cancelled their for the evening. Not sure what ONT will do with the passengers either bus to SAN or hotels in the ONT area. Some passengers may elect to drive to SAN.
CO1717 IAH-SAN looks like it will divert to LAX and will most likely do the same thing as CO1426.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26147 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 2296 times:
I was out flying tonight and inbound to LA around 8pm or so from almost above Palm Springs you could clearly make out the fog bank out over the coast to the southwest which a bit later engulfed SAN. Once got closer in could also see small patches of fog in the OC region also.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Caspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
Quoting UpstateDave (Reply 8): I don't understand why AS jets are diverting... With the HUDs & RNP, I thought their decision height was 100 ft. Is SAN not equipped for the use of AS's "fogbuster" technology?
Unless they're shooting a CAT II or III (and I think SAN only has CAT I) decision height doesn't matter. If they have the same ILS charts we do, the visibility needed is 1 mile. So it appears no one had the vis to shoot the approach.
SAN is not CAT III and has high min's due to terrain. AS is like everyone else when it comes to landing at SAN. If the airport doesn't have the capabilities the AS flights can use, then AS has to use the basic ILS approach. AS is not the only carrier with HUD's diverting.
RNP only works if you have and RNP approach! No RNP approach to SAN.
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