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British Airways' Opinion On The 777-300ER?  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 17695 times:

I was recently departing LHR when I had the opportunity to see British Airway's newest widebody acquisition G-STBB a Boeing 777-300ER holding short of the active runway near my aircraft. Currently BA has 2 77Ws operating on their long haul schedule. Do we know what the company thinks about their newest acquisitions? There are currently plans to acquire a fleet of 6 (2 owned, 4 leased) with options held on 4 additional airframes. What is the likelihood that the 4 options will be exercised?


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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 17245 times:

They are fantastic aircraft. Have not flown on one yet, but managed to get onboard and have a look around while one was being prepared for its next flight from T5B. First looked amazing compared to the current offering. Club World was as nice as it is on the other aircraft BA have, and the new WTP and WT are much improved, with what looks like a really good IFE system, powerpoints for all customers, and USB connectivity.. A fellow netter just returned from BOM on one of the 300's this morning so will point him in this direction to give a personal "inflight" opinion of it.

(G-STBC is in CWL at the moment)


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16918 times:

Spoke to one of the fleet planning team last week and yes, they like them a lot, particularly the good feedback they've had from pax.

They are fine planes indeed. Not had chance to get on one yet but plan to in the new year. Cant imagine they are much different to the EY, QR, EK and SQ 77Ws I seem to spent the bulk of my long-haul flying on these days but they have to be better than the 744s. I also find some of their 772s very dated and tatty. Nice to see BA get new planes!

Will they order their options - i would think that if they did, they would take more than the four on option. I still think the 77W has a role at BA alongside the A3510.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1541 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16875 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
Will they order their options - i would think that if they did, they would take more than the four on option


Agree. In truth BA could have utilised the 77W cash cow a long time ago, but has a record of keeping its long haul planes in the fleet for the duration (see all the 747's its ever owned) and also simply has not had the cash to buy or spare capacity to raise finance.

Can't believe we will just see 10 77W's in the BA fleet

After the A380 the 77W is fast becoming my next favoute nose to see parked at my departure gate. Great aircraft



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12352 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16799 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 1):
USB connectivity

Pardon my ignorance, but what does one use the USB connectivity for?

Quoting shankly (Reply 3):
Can't believe we will just see 10 77W's in the BA fleet

Well, seeing that we have zero in the colors of any US airline, consider yourself lucky!



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16789 times:

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
Pardon my ignorance, but what does one use the USB connectivity for?

You can plug in your Ipod or Iphone, get it charged, and if you want to watch your ipod movies on the IFE screen, as well as (i believe) download podcasts and destination guides etc.


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16192 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
They are fine planes indeed. Not had chance to get on one yet but plan to in the new year. Cant imagine they are much different to the EY, QR, EK and SQ 77Ws I seem to spent the bulk of my long-haul flying on these days but they have to be better than the 744s. I also find some of their 772s very dated and tatty. Nice to see BA get new planes!

Of course the same flying experience could be had in a refitted 772, and eventually no doubt that will happen, but good to see BA improving their product.

Oh, and nice to see BA stick with 9Y, shame on you NZ 



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User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 754 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15921 times:

Quoting shankly (Reply 3):
Agree. In truth BA could have utilised the 77W cash cow a long time ago, but has a record of keeping its long haul planes in the fleet for the duration (see all the 747's its ever owned) and also simply has not had the cash to buy or spare capacity to raise finance.

Exactly see some of the 741s that did 30 years and the G-BUS* A320s that are being replaced now at 23.


User currently offlineSU184 From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 235 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12966 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
Will they order their options - i would think that if they did, they would take more than the four on option. I still think the 77W has a role at BA alongside the A3510.

Didn't know they ordered A3510's, did they??


User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12402 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
Spoke to one of the fleet planning team last week and yes, they like them a lot,

I thought there would be more info in here on such matters rather than what the seats are like as in the long run, that isn't anything centric to their 77W's in theory.



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User currently offlinetjcab From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10411 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 5):
You can plug in your Ipod or Iphone, get it charged, and if you want to watch your ipod movies on the IFE screen, as well as (i believe) download podcasts and destination guides etc

...yes plus most mobile devices these days are powered thru USB connections (with wall unit adapters).


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7401 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8752 times:

In the November edition of the BA Shareholders' magazine, "Overview", there is a three page well illustrated article on its 77W. As it is published by BA for public consumption it is unsurprisingly very positive. See it on pp. 13-15 at:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_.../69499/OverviewNov10lowresFULL.pdf


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8731 times:

Well, I for one will say that the new 77Ws look very sharp in BA's colors (and that's a big statement from man who is a 744 guy). Do the 777-300ER pilots come from the same pilot pool as the 777-200ERs?

What type of impact would taking operating a fleet of 10+ 77Ws have on BA's acquisition of additional 787s, A380s and potentially A350s?



"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30618 posts, RR: 84
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8361 times:
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Quoting SU184 (Reply 8):
Didn't know (BA) ordered A3510's, did they??

They have not, but a number of a.netters assume they will order at least the A350-900 as a 777-200ER replacement.


User currently offlinesteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6899 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 12):
Do the 777-300ER pilots come from the same pilot pool as the 777-200ERs?

The BA 777-200 Senior First Officer who took me on the sim at Cranebank said that his certificates (or whatever) actually specified the B777-300 rather than the -200, so one would assume so.

It would be quite problematic if they weren't cross changeable, with places such as DXB and ORD getting the -300 a few times a week - there would be a lot of dead heading crews.



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User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6845 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 12):
Do the 777-300ER pilots come from the same pilot pool as the 777-200ERs?
Quoting steve6666 (Reply 14):
The BA 777-200 Senior First Officer who took me on the sim at Cranebank said that his certificates (or whatever) actually specified the B777-300 rather than the -200, so one would assume so.

It would be quite problematic if they weren't cross changeable, with places such as DXB and ORD getting the -300 a few times a week - there would be a lot of dead heading crews.

Yes they do - as with any operator of both variants - it's one type rating and the flight deck is essentially identical.



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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

I saw it this morning arriving on 09L. It just wizzed over me as I was cruising down the M25.

User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1232 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 11):
In the November edition of the BA Shareholders' magazine, "Overview", there is a three page well illustrated article on its 77W. As it is published by BA for public consumption it is unsurprisingly very positive. See it on pp. 13-15 at:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...L.pdf

It must be a typo, but on page 13 of the article you mentioned, in the red dot it says that BA took two new "777-330ERs" 30 is Lufthansa's customer code. We can sure dream can't we...   



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6574 times:

G-STBC will arruve at LHR tommorrow evening 19 Nov at 2015.

All 3 will be flying on the 23rd with the 295 ORD .


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7401 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6523 times:

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 17):
It must be a typo, but on page 13 of the article you mentioned, in the red dot it says that BA took two new "777-330ERs" 30 is Lufthansa's customer code. We can sure dream can't we

Dream on!

What I noticed was the statement that:

"Customers travelling to Dubai, Chicago, Delhi, and Mumbai (chosen for their unique ability to handle the new plane, which, at 242 ft, is longer than a 747) will be the first to experience the new 777-300ER."

Unique? Well if true they will not only be the first but also the last destinations to see BA's 77Ws! And what about those destinations served by BA where their competition is already flying to from LHR with the 77W? There is AC who fly the 77W to both YYX and YVR from LHR, AI who fly it to ATQ as well as BOM and, along with 9W, DEL), BR to BKK (and onwards to TPE which is not served by BA), CX to HKG, JA and NH both to NRT, PK (LHE), QR (DOH) and SQ (SIN) and probably some that I have overlooked.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6400 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
Unique? Well if true they will not only be the first but also the last destinations to see BA's 77Ws! And what about those destinations served by BA where their competition is already flying to from LHR with the 77W? There is AC who fly the 77W to both YYX and YVR from LHR, AI who fly it to ATQ as well as BOM and, along with 9W, DEL), BR to BKK (and onwards to TPE which is not served by BA), CX to HKG, JA and NH both to NRT, PK (LHE), QR (DOH) and SQ (SIN) and probably some that I have overlooked.

Off the top of my head:

77W operators using the 77W on routes from LHR that BA do not.

NH to NRT
BR to BKK-TPE
SQ to SIN
TK to IST
JJ to GRU
AC to YYZ
JL to NRT
EK to DXB
QR to DOH
MS to CAI
AI to BOM & DEL
9W to DEL
CX to HKG

and

NZ to AKL (2011)
CA to PEK (2012)
SV to RUH (2012)



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
There is AC who fly the 77W to both YYZ and YVR from LHR,

AC uses the A330-300 on LHR-YVR. Of their 4 daily LHR-YYZ flights their current schedule shows only 2 weekly 77Ws on one flight Saturday and Sunday, and only through the end of November, except possibly for occasional substitutions.


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