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First United Aircraft In New Livery On The Way.  
User currently offlineCALTECH From United States of America, joined May 2007, 3058 posts, RR: 28
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 55044 times:

First UA aircraft undergoes new livery makeover

The first UA aircraft to receive the new livery – a Boeing 777 – is in the paint process for the new livery and is expected to take to the skies on Nov. 23. By the end of the year, UA will have up to seven aircraft painted – all Boeing 777-200s.

Meanwhile, a CO Boeing 767 went into repainting on Tuesday. Both UA and CO aircraft are being painted with the new UA branding at three different facilities. Presently, the majority of paint work is being done in Amarillo, Texas. CO’s widebody fleet, which is undergoing other routine maintenance checks, is being re-branded in Hong Kong. Other paint facilities in Victorville, Calif., and Roswell, N.M., are also under consideration.

The changes to the UA planes are more extensive, given the new livery design. We plan to post a progress meter on flyingtogether.ual.com. Stay tuned to Jeff's Journal, which will soon feature a time-lapse video of the repainting work.

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User currently offlineCALTECH From United States of America, joined May 2007, 3058 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 54981 times:

Maybe in about 6-10 years. Or whenever the next CEO takes charge.

User currently offlineStyle From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 54957 times:

I can assume its because their 777's are being reconfigured?

Do we know if this first UA plane is a battleship livery?

User currently offlineklkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 54691 times:

It will be interesting to see how many years it takes to get all of the United aircraft repainted. They barely painted half their fleet in their last new livery after 5+ years.

User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 1066 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 54513 times:

What livery do those aircraft being painted over have right now? Have they decided on the interior look? I think that has never been released - only the boring new/old paint scheme.

User currently offlinedl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 54302 times:

Quoting klkla (Reply 4):

from what I understand that's because they only paint them when needed or during heavy checks, unlike DL who just painted them to change the livery to the current one quickly. It might change to have the UA planes painted quickly, at least the grey ones.

User currently offlinebdl2stl2pvg From China, joined Jun 2006, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 54090 times:

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 6):
from what I understand that's because they only paint them when needed or during heavy checks,

Do all airlines repaint during a certain check / heavy check? i.e. - would AA repaint any of their aircraft during their heavy checks? Its obvious during a color scheme change, but I've wondered if there is a lifespan to a paint-job. I noted a lot of the darker paint schemes - i.e. the prior US & UA schemes do clearly show their age/wear.

User currently offlineDC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 53541 times:

Quoting Reply 2):
Do we know if this first UA plane is a battleship livery?

Yes..I would imagine all of the gray aircraft will be painted first, simply beacuse they were already
scheduled to be painted.

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6281 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 52793 times:

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 5):
from what I understand that's because they only paint them when needed or during heavy checks, unlike DL who just painted them to change the livery to the current one quickly. It might change to have the UA planes painted quickly, at least the grey ones.

CO/UA has targeted getting the ENTIRE UA FLEET repainted within 24 months.
Which certainly beats the 6+ years that the blue on blue on blue UA livery has been around, yet many aircraft haven't been painted in it...

User currently offlineConti764 From Belgium, joined Dec 2007, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 52342 times:

I'm dying to see a 744 in the new UA colors!  

User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1188 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 52108 times:

Quoting bdl2stl2pvg (Reply 6):
Do all airlines repaint during a certain check / heavy check?

These days an aircraft doesn't need repainting after a heavy check. It used to be the best time to apply a new livery as the aircraft would be repainted anyway, but not anymore.

Example, A well known european carrier is currently sending its B744's in for new paint in one location, whilst others are coming back from another location following a heavy check in the same (old) livery they went in with

So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 51481 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 8):
CO/UA has targeted getting the ENTIRE UA FLEET repainted within 24 months.

Really? That is one hell of a schedule, especially for the UA fleet that needs more down time to undertake this. IMHO that schedule cannot be met but I hope I am wrong.

Quoting Conti764 (Reply 9):
I'm dying to see a 744 in the new UA colors!

You and me both, I would have liked to have seen all the stops pulled out to get one of those birds done ASAP.

User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6388 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 51263 times:

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 11):

Specially considering that UA just started the process. 24 months does seem fast!

Quoting CALTECH (Thread starter):

Victorville would be interesting since they are painting a lot of SkyWest planes through the end of next year.

Side note: Anyone know how large the Victorville facility is? How many planes can they paint at one time?

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlinemanfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 47682 times:

Quoting Conti764 (Reply 9):
I'm dying to see a 744 in the new UA colors!

Let's hope they don't use such big titles on the the 747's. In this photo, it just looks too big. I think half that size would be just right. Sure, it wouldn't be quite as visible but it would be much classier.


This font size seems just about right:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 693 File size: 259kb

[Edited 2010-11-19 08:49:01]

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User currently offlineboslax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 47520 times:

Quoting as739x (Reply 12):
Victorville would be interesting since they are painting a lot of SkyWest planes through the end of next year.

Would be curious to know who pays for the regional aircraft to be painted? Is it the regionals themselves, or UA/CO.

User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 46248 times:

Very interesting to see the new livery on a 777

Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist
User currently offlinejcgideon From United States of America, joined May 2006, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 45960 times:

This is the picture going around in the United employee site.

Hoping the 797 will have 3 or more holes. I can dream, can't I?!?
User currently offlineDUALRATED From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 45717 times:

Quoting jcgideon (Reply 16):
This is the picture going around in the United employee site.

ooo leave it like that!

User currently offlinemanfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 45525 times:

I'm glad to see they are painting their aircraft the right way for once, remove the old paint first. Pay a bit more for better quality. Way to go Continental...show em how it's done.

757: The last of the best
User currently offlineB727LVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 45347 times:

Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 17):
ooo leave it like that!

   I agree thats a beautiful look right there!!!!

I knew United was having some of their 757's painted in ROW... But it seems that hasnt been any there recently...

I'm like a kid in a candy store when it comes to planes!
User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 3061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 44909 times:

Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 17):
ooo leave it like that!

Yeah, no kidding! I fear we may be headed down another UA/CO livery battle thread

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 7057 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 44803 times:

Quoting Reply 2):
I can assume its because their 777's are being reconfigured?

N222UA is in the old XP configuration.

Quoting manfredj (Reply 18):

I'm glad to see they are painting their aircraft the right way for once, remove the old paint first. Pay a bit more for better quality. Way to go Continental...show em how it's done.

....thats how UA has always painted aircraft...strip and paint.

I know the voices in my head aren't real but sometimes their ideas are just awesome!!!
User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 43401 times:

I can't get all that excited about the "new" livery. Really, it's just CO's same old livery but with the word "United" in a new font. I'll miss the big, stylized "U" going back 40 years. I'm hoping they design a new livery soon incoroporating more of the old UA.

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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4139 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 43172 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 22):
I'm hoping they design a new livery soon incoroporating more of the old UA.

Honestly, I can accept the end of the tulip, but something less drab would be nice. The CO livery is probably the most boring livery out there.

User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 43180 times:

I have already seen the Continental planes with the new livery, they just put "United" where Continental used to be.

This was a 737 I saw at SFO at the beginning of October:

can't wait to see some of the big birds with the new livery

25 Post contains images CO767FA : I'm hoping that they incorporate the CO name too!
26 Post contains images UAL777UK : Did you assume they painted over the old livery or something? Come on! Exactly. Is there any other way. I don't want this thread to go off track but
27 Post contains links and images United1 : ... actually there is another way...I can't find the picture right now but right after the US/HP merger during an A320 repaint they stripped off the
28 UAL777UK : Now thats what I would call a sloppy cut price job but interesting none the less. I would love to see that picture. Mores the point as you state UA s
29 Post contains images piaflyer : I dont think Braniff had A320's
30 Post contains links United1 : They did actually...one of the reincarnations of Braniff had 5 or 6 A320s painted up in their livery although I am not sure they were ever flown befo
31 Post contains links and images manfredj : I don't think, I know. You can do the search yourself, there are plenty of photos in the database of peeling paint with the old colors underneath. Th
32 United1 : Thats not the old colors thats the skin of the aircraft...and yes they did have to go back and repaint a few aircraft after the contractors did a bad
33 FlyNWA727 : Braniff did have A320s. They were painted in a new livery that never had the chance to make it mainstream to the entire fleet before Braniff II folde
34 Post contains links and images timberwolf24 : Per this picture a few did make it into service this is at ORD. View Large View MediumPhoto © Gary C. Orlando
35 FlyNWA727 : Oh, wow. That's something I definitely didn't know. Thanks so much for informing me!
36 dl767captain : wow I had no idea they were planning on the entire fleet that quickly
37 Post contains images bohica : I agree. Let's go with a bare metal fuselage. Nobody would even notice the word "United" in the hybrid font.
38 DC8FanJet : I call BS. That is the metal showing thru, not the old gray paint. Inspite of your agenda, United is and has been a very respected technical operatio
39 amwest2united : Not sure where you heard that, Braniff flew them out of DCA to MCI and the west coast, I think they also had 1 daily LGA-MCI flight as well before th
40 777STL : Indeed. I remember seeing the old TW livery peeking through on the tail after the ex-TW 757s had been reliveried in AA's colors.
41 Post contains images FlyNWA727 : I'll refer you to Reply 35. Reading is fundamental.
42 Post contains images MCO2BRS : Have any of the A320/19's been painted yet? Would *love* to see one of those in the 'new' livery Cheers MCO 2 BRS
43 catiii : Any idea when any of the non common aircraft, such as the 319/320 or 744's will be painted?
44 AirCalSNA : I second that emotion. I'm going to miss UA's current livery.
45 DC8FanJet : You'll see it for quite a while. The remaining gray aircraft will be painted first.
46 amwest2united : There will be 5 lines of paint for PMUA aircraft starting in Feb. 2011, 2-757's, 2 A320's, 1 A319. they are back to back. The Airbuses are scheduled
47 Post contains links FWAERJ : That is correct, All legacy UA planes, whether they are battleship gray or the 2004 livery, should be painted within 24 months. And this is faster th
48 Schweigend : That's quite a lot. Three Airbus lines, a seven-day turnover -- almost 150 per year at that rate. Should be doable for the airline with CO 737 delive
49 FWAERJ : UA operates 97 A320s and 55 A319s. They might be able to get the Airbus fleet done within little more than a year. Should take a year and four months
50 Schweigend : I probably overestimated the rate, since amwest2united said they take 11 days. Adding in turnover time, etc., the 24-month done-deal goal is achievab
51 CALPSAFltSkeds : Don't you think when the Airbuses are complete, they might add another 757 line to get them completed sooner?
52 Post contains links and images Schweigend : Exactly what they should do. Do you know whether or not AMA can do widebody paints? CO thus far seems to have been happy with their vendor there, as
53 drerx7 : Yes, that is where N222UA is at present.
54 Schweigend : Never heard of old CAL doing widebodies there.... This must be an upgrade for the new UA. Helium-harvesting and aircraft painting. Good for Amarillo!
55 timf : Delta painted several A330s at AMA, so they are obviously set up for widebody aircraft.
56 Conti764 : Keep in mind that DL had to do a bigger paintjob on more planes then UA has to do now. For the 300+ CO planes only stripping 'Continental' and paint
57 SESGDL : That's incorrect, DL didn't have to paint a lot of their aircraft at all. UA must paint all of their aircraft, and a decal must be applied to all CO
58 KPDX : So what is the new livery like? Simply putting another fonted name on a continental fuselage doesn't count as a new livery. More like a extremely mino
59 amwest2united : They are not using decals, they are painting them on.
60 Post contains links wn676 : http://www.braniffpages.com/1984/1984.html The picture is about halfway down the page.
61 JBo : The repainting of the UAX fleet is the responsibility of the regional operators, so it will take more time. I imagine the rate of repainting will be
62 SESGDL : Whatever, decal schmecal. My point was that the entire mainline CO and UA fleets must be repainted, whereas DL/NW didn't have that same issue, as the
63 JBo : We understood your point, but we're just making sure you know that repainting the CO fleet is still a bit more involved than just peel-and-stick.
64 homsar : What's interesting about this is that the plane probably would have had not two, but three layers of paint: Braniff, original America West, and revis
65 Post contains links A340Spotter : JBo, The first batch of planes were complete repaints as they were due for it, however this month, most of the planes going up there have only been a
66 Antoniemey : Uh... yes they did. The CO fleet needs to be retitled. The UA fleet needs painted. With Delta they had launched a brand new identity, livery included
67 ADent : Any idea when UA will start using the new branding/colors/logos in TV ads?
68 Post contains images SESGDL : Got it! I was referring to PMDL aircraft, nearly half of which were already in the new colors at the time of the merger's completion. What does any o
69 COalways : Im sure that the painting will jus be as fast as DL painting. I think it will be even faster as Jeff wants everything in the Continental Livery in 2ye
70 United1 : UA doesn't have a "branded" podium its just whatever the generic airport one is or in the case of the hubs whatever manufacturer UA went with when th
71 hnl-jack : More than likely not until the joint operating certificate is approved and then I would think it will be rather fast, assuming everything else operat
72 amwest2united : Customer Day One! sometime this coming spring.
73 United1 : I think it might be a little earlier then that....I think by "customer day one" which is early next year they would start to use joint branding. Oper
74 CALTECH : Today at MCO, near each other were, a United A-320 in white top and blue bottom paint scheme, a United 757 in tired and very dirty battleship gray liv
75 Post contains links United1 : I'm not sure how accurate flight aware is but N222UA is slated to operate LAX-IAD-KWI-BAH tomorrow... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N222UA
76 CALTECH : Spot on.
77 Antoniemey : And again, CO's planes need only a retitle, which is a simple procedure (compared to a full repaint) and can be done practically overnight with or wi
78 ADent : Wow another four months of pumping money into the red and blue tulip? (1st day of spring is 20MAR).
79 United1 : I'm not sure how much money were actually talking about here....neither UA or CO are doing much in the way of advertising right now....with loads bei
80 Post contains links ORD2PHL : Yep, right on target - looks to ferry in the wee hours of the morning - LAX spotters be ready! http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL9943 ORD2PHL
81 CALPSAFltSkeds : There are plenty of companies that can offer a custom wrapping for podiums, with clear, translucent and/or metallic look if desired.
82 VC10er : The latest UA livery with the giant faded tulip on the tail was created by Pentagram a far more talented firm that did CO. Pentagram also created all
83 United1 : IAD spotters its on its way...
84 flyiguy : It's here at D-5 being loaded to KWI...Departure is set for 18:20...
85 Post contains links and images C767P : Here it is departing LAX this morning:
86 Style : Maybe its the photo, but it doesn't look as 'shiny' as it should for a new paint job... Am I the only one who with this though?
87 CALPSAFltSkeds : It will opnly shine if the sun's on it at an angle to reflect. It appears to be a cloudy day and there is some shine from the engine, indicating the
88 UnitedChicago : it feels like the UNITED titles are to far to the right doesn't look centered between Door L1 and the start of the wing
89 PacificClipper : The other UA ads running on radio and print are for Mileage Plus. I've not heard anything about which will be the surviving name for the FF program b
90 The777Man : N222UA is supposed to go to NRT from IAD after it arrives back from BAH and KWI. After NRT, it's supposed to fly NRT-LAX. Subject to change...... The7
91 Post contains links and images KGRB : That's true of some stations, but not all. Some of the newer PMNW stations had glass panels at the gate podiums that required replacement. It didn't
92 COalways : She looks stunning! This will put it to rest now that some people thought that the CO livery wouldn't make it to a PM UA aircraft that it was jus a t
93 JBo : Am I the only one who thinks the titles look a bit too large? It's like the opposite of DL and making their titles a bit too small on the widebodies.
94 C767P : I just thought most here would like to see it, not see an a.net quality photo. There were three other people there that took pictures of it, and I do
95 vgnatl747 : Does anyone know how that compares to DL's progress? I think we can all agree that DL wrote the book on rapid post-merger rebranding...
96 C767P : DL started rebranding in airports January 2009 and completed it January 18, 2010. Mainline NW planes started to be painted on 12/15/08 and the last m
97 timf : On 8/24/09, only about half of the NW mainline fleet had been repainted. The bulk of the repaints were completed by the end of February 2010 (N365NB
98 CALPSAFltSkeds : Sorry if I didn't clarify. the photo is great and taken when the gear is being retracted. I was mostly referring to the lack of reflection from the s
99 Slider : Incorrect. It depends on how old the existing paint is--if it is coming up on the usual 7 year paint cycle, it will get full nose to tail repainting.
100 CALPSAFltSkeds : You would think to expedite the process, CO would repaint the names on the aircraft not needing full paint, then go ahead with the full paints.
101 C767P : My bad, I apologize. I was looking at the 1989 scheme in my notes for some reason.
102 Post contains images alphaomega : Got a pic on the ramp at IAD....bad weather though. Looked interesting sitting among all of the other UA tails on the C and D concourse!
103 VC10er : For a design that wasn't done holistically it looks surprising good. I also think the branding (type) balances ok with the entire 777. You can't just
104 CALPSAFltSkeds : If you look at both sides of the aircraft (from the takeoff photo and gate photo) it could be that the positioning of the name has more to do with th
105 UnitedChicago : I miss the tulip already Understand the "merger of equals" and keeping the CO scheme was a good idea for labor relations on the CO side; also showed t
106 Post contains images CALTECH : And the Globe is a better representation of a global airline than some tired and very old flower. Have seen the paint jobs next to each other, the Co
107 JBo : Okay, this keeps irritating me every time I hear it mentioned a such - the UA logo is NOT a tulip! It's not even remotely symbolic of a flower. It's
108 Post contains links CALTECH : Quite annoying when folks get upset about the 'tulip.' 'Save the Tulip' is on Facebook too. Even most Chicagoans call it the 'tulip.' It's nickname i
109 Post contains images BMIFlyer : I like it, well done UA Can't wait to see it for real
110 burnsie28 : Well so was NW's naming of products World Business Class, World Clubs, World Perks, etc. But that didn't mean jack. The UA symbol is far more recogni
111 Post contains links and images CALTECH : Not anymore. From now on, the Continental Globe will have far more recognition than the United 'tulip' ever dreamed of. It is the future. Plus the 't
112 COalways : UA symbol more recognizabel? Maybe in Asia and thats it. The Continental Globe that will be gracing the skys on United Aircraft has far more Global r
113 UAL777UK : Without wishing to high jack the thread if you think the Continental name is better known worldwide that that of United, would you like to explain wh
114 United1 : This conversation has come up before...United has a stronger brand recognition worldwide compared with Continental. However its not the tulip that li
115 COalways : Wasn't even talkin abot the name of the carrieris i think you should go back and re-read my post. As you see I was saying that the GLOBE has landed a
116 COalways : Of coarse its now part of the New U N I T E D but jus like NW Bowling ball livery, UA battleship gray, DL Upword and Foward or wat ever they call it
117 chopchop767 : Although I am sad to see the tulip go, considering the years flying with UA, another element that the new livery does not retain is the 'worldwide ser
118 United1 : Not necessarily and what does the livery have to do with the logo? UAs post BK livery didn't have worldwide service on it either..
119 VC10er : I will miss the tulip too. It's heartbreaking. And I'm from NYC and UA screwed the NY area 10 years ago and I'm still pissed off at them. But as a cr
120 gdg9 : There were a few like that. N711ZX was the worst - it had big chunks of AA paint on the tail peeling off and exposing the TWA livery underneath.
121 VC10er : You are correct. "tulip" is the nickname all companies use to call their logo/symbol. Like the GE "Meatball" or MetLife's 4 M logo is called "the Cat
122 Algoz66 : And the lovely beige belly of CO reminds me of baby poo......
123 drerx7 : hmm...I always thought the bellies were gray?
124 Algoz66 : probably part of the problem - can't tell what colour it is from any photos...
125 UAL777UK : # The surviving name is much more important, what part of that is not clear to you? Its generally accepted that the Co livery was kept to keep a lot
126 jetskipper : When are we going to see the new bird in Chicago?
127 drerx7 : Looks like N222UA is enroute to NRT from LAX then it looks like its headed to HNL.
128 Post contains links CALTECH : Beige ? Really ? Bellies were polished aluminum. Think one of the 757-200s has the aft belly painted gray. Some wins for United win hands down for su
129 comorin : DL and NW did an amazing branding job - feels fresh, 21st century and says 'new'. They are also improving their soft product. Kudos. CO and UA are ver
130 PacificClipper : All at the direction of Jeff Smisek. First this, then the recent Mileage Plus changes that have 1Ks enraged and many (ORD based) are defecting to AA.
131 VC10er : The airline is UNITED. period! Ask 1k's and GS's if they have issues with UA! UNITED stated clearly that their target was the premium pax and all of e
132 UAL747DEN : I am one who hated the new livery but I have to admit its kind of growing on me now. To me when you actually see it, it looks like a retro livery but
133 burnsie28 : Why Helvetica is the most popular font, and is what American uses, its also just that, over used by too many IMO, great font, but sometimes too much
134 Algoz66 : AA = polished aluminium CO = unknown (at least from the photos I've seen) - can you post one that clearly shows polished aluminium? I would love to s
135 VC10er : It HOW Pentagram used helvetica for UA that I LOVE as a typofile ( I love type... aka Fonts) Please UA don't loose the design roll you have been on!
136 Post contains images CALTECH : It is a nice and bright livery, though a completely new livery would have been nice. Delta's new livery also fell short for me. It is okay but I love
137 DCA-ROCguy : Same here. The Saul Bass Tulip is a classic of aviation history. The tasteful but unremarkable Continental globe is not. And the skies don't need mor
138 COalways : And that's were the Tulip will be in History.
139 Post contains links and images Conti764 : I once tried something different, incorporating the United 'U' and parts of the United colorscheme... And here are some alternatives To be clear, I d
140 CALPSAFltSkeds : Needs more color. If the gold line was added on the top photo and gold in the globe were present, it might work. But, I think the tulip needs to go i
141 moman : A new livery 757 was at MCO yesterday.
142 AA737-823 : What? In what way is CO's livery Euro-white? Air France. Alitalia. Iberia. Swiss. THESE are Euro-white. As is Delta. But CO has a tan/gray belly, and
143 DCA-ROCguy : With respect, the Tulip belongs in the air, on United aircraft. The Continental globe and color scheme are what belong in history. Hopefully a few ye
144 Post contains images KGRB : I like your work, but I think most branding experts would tell you that a company cannot have two logos. By having one design, it sticks in a custome
145 surfdog75 : Sorry guys but it looks really bad in my opinion. I saw a 737 in the "new" livery the other day. If this is an example of the decisions the company ma
146 qfatwa : Everyone has an idea and opinion on liveries : Give me back TWA!! The new UNITED management are doing the most appropriate short-tern merging measure
147 Post contains images EA CO AS : Then, with respect, I'm glad you're not one of the decisionmakers on which livery and logo were retained.
148 Post contains images CALTECH : After seeing all 3 United/Continental liveries side by side, the Continental one is the brightest and newest looking, even though it is the oldest. A
149 CALPSAFltSkeds : As well as half of the ticket counter and other facilities if an entire new image was announced.
150 Post contains links and images KGRB : Is the bare metal being included in the UA repaints? I think they should just drop it altogether since it can't be applied to the Airbuses and 787s (
151 Post contains images DCA-ROCguy : With respect, if I were, things would be different. The impression I have is that san-serif fonts are thought to look bolder and more attention-grabb
152 DC8FanJet : this thread seems to never die. The fact remains, it is only paint on an airplane. What matters far more will be routes flown, schedule offered, and s
153 Post contains images Slider : You know what's heartbreaking? Heartbreaking is finding out you have cancer. Heartbreaking is knowing that some kids won't see a parent who is on a m
154 TWFirst : For once, I TOTALLY agree with you Slider. For what it's worth though, I also have to say I've now seen the 'new United' livery on several birds (of
155 N766UA : They're new airplanes, and they're just waiting for United Express titles. I saw one the other day in Cleveland with United titles, looks... odd, jus
156 Slider : Thanks. And agreed...I can't imagine how challenging it was for the execs to sit down to actually MAKE some of these decisions. I don't agree with al
157 Post contains images CALTECH : Uh, that's Colgan Air, not Continental Airlines. Very financially responsible, no matter what anyone says. The United top management was and is fully
158 United1 : Your analysis is basically correct except you probably are not aware of one small detail...on quite a few of the PMCO aircraft that have been repaint
159 TOMMY767 : Honestly, it really wouldn't be that much of a cost difference. The UA logo is going to be missed more than people expect. I wouldn't be surprised if
160 PAcificClipper : Of course. It's certainly not "new" by any means -- it's a mutt. Blech. Wasted opportunity for a brand relaunch. DL seized the opportunity and it has
161 KGRB : Yes I know it is a Colgan a/c, as I stated in my post. I think you're missing my point. The aircraft was delivered and went into revenue service with
162 Slider : Maybe it was on the line in the time between UA finalizing the new livery and specs and when the plane was on the line. You know, contrary to some fo
163 Post contains links CALTECH : Second UA 777 has been painted. Oh no, they are sticking with this livery. From battleship gray to the new livery, nice video. http://www.youtube.com/
164 SESGDL : Well not all of them have been, the 757-300 was only had the name repainted. Quite a few (including me) like the new Delta paint scheme and branding.
165 United1 : Which is exactly why they painted the entire aircraft....the point remains that using the modified CO livery was not a cost savings measure. I don't
166 TOMMY767 : It's so backwards for a merger it's not even funny. It's completely dated as well. Hopefully it will be tweaked in SOME way in the next 5 years.
167 CALPSAFltSkeds : So, somehow painting just the white paint on the top of the aircraft isn't a cost and time savings vs. repainting the entire aircraft? According to t
168 TOMMY767 : It comes down to the argument of politics that went down with this merger: Would you rather have seen UA based in IAH instead of ORD? I would definit
169 DC8FanJet : While we will never, ever get agreement on the new paint job, there can be no question that N222UA looks better now than with the old, faded gray sche
170 CALPSAFltSkeds : No doubt political, but I'm not sure if the HQ would be in trade for the paint scheme. Maybe the CEO being from CO meant ORD was the HQ.
171 Post contains images UAL777UK : Enough with the UA 777's being given the new livery I want to see a 747 in the new livery ASAP!
172 Jacobcal : AMEN, I'm dying to see a B747-4 in the new livery or at least an A320/319!! I guess we will just have to hold our horses, but I'm sure its going to b
173 Post contains links and images PacificClipper : Here you go. Tack on some winglets and tape UNITED over the CO name. View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte Jr.
174 Post contains images CALTECH : Acft # 115, had the crown painted from above the fuselage windows, from the radome back to a production break just aft of the L2 and R2 doors. The pa
175 United1 : So your pointing at one aircraft and telling me that the cheapest option was used so it must be cheaper to paint the entire fleet? Repainting the ent
176 CALTECH : No not pointing at one aircraft, the schedule is showing no full paints for now, other than a couple of 'C' check visits. What is seen is that most a
177 CODC10 : Yes, it was. There were plenty of strategic considerations that led to branding the company in this fashion, most of which have been discussed at len
178 United1 : I think we might just... I'm not sure where you get that from...the issue with UA was never the ability to deliver great service the issue I think cu
179 CALTECH : It is growing easier to look at with each passing day. In many surveys, United has struggled with an image problem. If you can not deliver great serv
180 FriendlySkies : One thing I'm curious about specifically for the 787 is how they will handle the gold stripe. All of the mockups show it curving slightly at the nose
181 CODC10 : The 787 will probably get the curved cheatline at the nose (like every drawing indicates) but that doesn't necessarily mean the entire fleet has to b
182 GoldenJet707 : What I don't get on this forum is: As long as the airline was called CO the paint job was great. CO consistently has been getting rewards. CO in recen
183 PacificClipper : That has little to do with the livery. Last I checked, UA was already into their turnaround. However it hasn't been 20 years since their bankruptcy l
184 Pbb152 : Provide me with tangible evidence that consumers will refuse to fly the airline because of the livery, or that major companies will pull their corpor
185 Post contains links ord : Interesting article on the painting of the Continental/United planes in Amarillo. The photo of the plane being painted appears to be a 767-400 (I beli
186 CALPSAFltSkeds : This makes sense. United1, if the CO fleet gets more patches than full repaints, that would save money and maybe indicates that a new livery will com
187 PacificClipper : Of course not, I neither stated nor implied that. You are projecting with both of your statements. My point is that these are poor marketing decision
188 A340Spotter : That'd be CO a/c 059 as it's the only one so far to have been painted. Fits in with the timing of when the article was written. The 777 outside in th
189 Post contains links and images Schweigend : Thanks, that was an interesting article. I never realized Leading Edge in AMA were so big, that they handle a lot for DL, and they continue to grow.
190 CALTECH : Last week up to Virginia. Noticed a better attitude from the time before. But still, compared to the cheery Continental Flight Attendants, there is r
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