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Will PAL Ever Resume Service To Europe?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9169 posts, RR: 15
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Any news regarding PAL resuming service to Europe? They have been talking about this for years. Quite ironic that the national airline of Philippines does not include service to Europe!

LHR? FRA?

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User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

PR is on an EU blacklist. They would have to do something about that first.


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3800 times:

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 1):
PR is on an EU blacklist. They would have to do something about that first.

Why?


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

Serious safety deficiencies according to the EU.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ppines-sudan-in-new-blacklist.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36111363

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User currently offlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
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According to a recent article.The Philippines passed an EU audit conducted in Oct. They appear to
be on their way to having the blacklist lifted on them. The article stated that PAL is looking at expanding
to Europe in 2012, choice destinations are London and Rome. The Philippines are confident that they will
have their FAA safety rating restored to CAT-1 early next year.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

What about FRA?

I suppose they are doing ok now right?

Any former B 747-400 routes to Europe?


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3485 times:

The problem was not with PAL and Cebu Pacific, but with the corruption and lack of oversight by the Filipino authorities.
EASA said explicitely that these two airlines had done a lot to improve their operational safety, but the Filipino aviation authority was considered to be very corrupt.

Jan


User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4017 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3444 times:
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I hope things improve for PAL. Because of all these safety concerns, they are not allowed to fly any new type of a/c on their transpacific flights to YVR/SFO/LAX. They can only fly a/c they had in service at the time of the EU black listing. Consequently, they can not fly their beautiful 77Ws on their longest r outes which is a real shame. I hope this changes for them in the not too far off futre.

User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

A bit off topic, but has the PR 77W made it onto their US flights yet? Any talk of JFK or any other east coast destination?

Quoting laca773 (Reply 7):
I hope things improve for PAL. Because of all these safety concerns, they are not allowed to fly any new type of a/c on their transpacific flights to YVR/SFO/LAX. They can only fly a/c they had in service at the time of the EU black listing. Consequently, they can not fly their beautiful 77Ws on their longest r outes which is a real shame. I hope this changes for them in the not too far off futre.

Funny because they used to fly their MD-11's and B742's to Europe - neither aircraft type is in their active fleet anymore!



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Quoting laca773 (Reply 7):
ecause of all these safety concerns, they are not allowed to fly any new type of a/c on their transpacific flights to YVR/SFO/LAX.

They could use larger types or otherwise increase service to YVR but they would have to drop the tag-on sector to LAS. Canada isn't subject to FAA restrictions.


User currently offlinenoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

They would do well on the Europe-Australia sectors if they could send the 777 this way. A shame that they can't at the moment, would be a serious competitor to SQ/MH etc. If Royal Brunei can make it work....

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