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N194UA Still Operating?  
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 665 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

Is UA still flying N194UA, and is it still on the NRT flights or back on domestic? I assume it's old configuration would make it an unpopular choice on international flights.

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User currently offlineamwest2united From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4728 times:
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Yes, It is still operating and today it is on the ORD-NRT flight, it normally runs SFO-ORD-SFO RT every day. The next few days it will be NRT-SFO, SFO-PVG-NRT, then back to domestic routing.


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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

If you need to find out again in the future, here's the FlightAware link to its activity.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N194UA

We'll see how long it stays in service. I read way back that it would be till November, but I don't know if that still stands.


User currently offlinePacificClipper From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4046 times:

It mostly did domestic ops during the summer (e.g. SFO-ORD) but has been subbing on mainly SFO-PVG or SFO-ICN over the last two months. While not the original plan, I suspect the 'new' UA will keep it in continuous service to cover for 777s as they undergo the interior upgrades.


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User currently offlinelijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 563 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
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the last flight of N194UA that I know of are:

UAL837 seen @ 2010-11-18 22:09 CET on route from SFO to TPE via NRT
UAL858 seen @ 2010-11-14 16:27 CET on route from PVG to LAX via SFO
UAL857 seen @ 2010-11-10 23:52 CET on route from LAX to PVG via SFO



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User currently offlineb727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 521 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

What makes this bird different from the rest of the fleet. Is it configured on a domestic layout??

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User currently offlineORD2PHL From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting b727 (Reply 5):
What makes this bird different from the rest of the fleet. Is it configured on a domestic layout??

It's in the 'old' international cabin layout and product offering, meaning no lie-flat in business class.

ORD2PHL


User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3183 times:

That would be a bummer to get this plane subbed on one of the transpac flights if you're in C. Does UA provide any compensation?

User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 7):
Does UA provide any compensation?

You are kidding, right?

AA ORD


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9595 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 7):
Does UA provide any compensation?

You are kidding, right?

Actually many people might be thrilled about it because of all the additional first and business class seats. There are 73 vs 52 business class seats so people might be getting complimentary upgrades if economy is full.

And yes they will get compensation in the form of the redeemable online card that they give. It’s the same compensation that is used for long delays or other reasons. The FAs can hand out the cards, but few people actually redeem them.



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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
You are kidding, right?

I think it's a fair question considering the difference in product and the fares paid for the seats.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 9):
And yes they will get compensation in the form of the redeemable online card that they give.

That sounds fair.


User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1580 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 7):
Does UA provide any compensation?

You are kidding, right?

AA ORD

+1

You pay for a class of service. Not for how far back your seat goes.

Passengers sitting in Y and F do not give a crap if the 747 is "old" or "new" config. There are also 21 additional C passengers that will be happy as they would have never received an upgrade if it weren't for the "old" config.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9595 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 11):
Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 7):
Does UA provide any compensation?

You are kidding, right?

AA ORD

+1

You pay for a class of service. Not for how far back your seat goes.

There might have been an era when UA would not have done anything, but on international flights they are giving compensation. It is small, but they are giving the online redeemable cards out.



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1580 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
There might have been an era when UA would not have done anything, but on international flights they are giving compensation. It is small, but they are giving the online redeemable cards out.

If UA wants to give it out, that's fine. But to demand compensation due to "old" C versus "new" C is ridiculous. Using that logic, I should get compensation when I sit in F of a CRJ-700 because the seat and cabin isn’t as nice as on the 757.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9595 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 13):

If UA wants to give it out, that's fine. But to demand compensation due to "old" C versus "new" C is ridiculous. Using that logic, I should get compensation when I sit in F of a CRJ-700 because the seat and cabin isn’t as nice as on the 757.

For someone expecting a fully flat seat, it is a disappointment to get a lower quality seat. Giving a small nominal apology is appreciated. The new United is about pleasing passengers and continuing loyalty. The leadership has changed greatly from the bankruptcy engineers when they cut everything they could from the passenger experience. UA even gives the compensation cards for extended weather delays even though it is not their fault.



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User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 11):
You pay for a class of service. Not for how far back your seat goes.

I am not sure you even do that since most passengers are upgraders. The old 744 configuration has a larger C class section and many more C class seats than the new configuration 744 making for easier upgrades. Only a few new configuration 772s are flying so a substitution on those routes are not as big a deal.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9595 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 15):

I am not sure you even do that since most passengers are upgraders

It depends on the route. ICN and PVG do get a fair number of upgraders, hence that is where the 747 is flying. However HKG, BKK & SYD rarely have upgrades available.



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User currently offlinePacificClipper From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
There might have been an era when UA would not have done anything, but on international flights they are giving compensation. It is small, but they are giving the online redeemable cards out.
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 14):
UA even gives the compensation cards for extended weather delays even though it is not their fault.

Whether people redeem them, or whether it's needed because you booked a class, not a seat type, I think it's great. Anything that improves current service levels at *any* legacy carrier is welcome news. Good job.

On a personal note, I have a hard time sleeping on flights. If I went out of my way to book a flight with a flat-bed, I'd be pretty disappointed with an equip sub. The card wouldn't improve my flight experience but that gesture is a step in the right direction.



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1580 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 14):
For someone expecting a fully flat seat, it is a disappointment to get a lower quality seat.

I agree, it's a bummer. But it isn't the end of the world. I'll still burn a SWU for the "old" config C class any day.


Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 14):
The new United is about pleasing passengers and continuing loyalty

Ah, no. Not especially after the recent 120 EQS for 1K announcement. UA has told the short haul, close-in ticket buying domestic passenger that we don't value you. I expect more annoucements regarding the diluation of benefits to follow.



[Edited 2010-11-22 20:55:45]


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