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OAG Changes 11/26/2010: AA/AS/CO/DL/NK/UA/WN  
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9968 times:

This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now.

How to read:
Flights are daily except as noted "/wk" which means per week.
ABE-MDT 2>10/WK means a reduction from 2 daily flights to 10 flights per week which is about 1.5 flights
ABE-MDT 3>2 APR means a reduction in one roundtrip from 3 to 2 for April only
ABE-MDT 3.8>2.7 APR-JUN This is the raw format of the data which sometimes I'm too lazy to retype. It means that over a month they were averaging a little less than 4 trips per day and now it's a little less than 3 per day. So, basically they cancelled 8 flights per week or so. Airlines are doing A LOT of non-daily ops now, so these fractions are pervasive.
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY- means an increase from 4 to 6 roundtrips starting in May and continuing
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY-JUN, 5>6 JUL means the change is only for the stated period May to June and then a different change for July in the same route

There was a LOT to type, so if you see something really weird ask me, it could be a typo.

AA
DFW-ANC 0>1 MAY-
DFW-ATL 11>10 APR-
DFW-AVL 0>1 JUN-
DFW-CLE 4>3 APR-
DFW-CMH 5>7 APR-MAY; 5>8 JUN-
DFW-DCA 11>12 APR-
DFW-DTW 5>6 JUN-
DFW-EGE 0>1 JUN-
DFW-FLL 5>6 APR-
DFW-GRK 10>9 APR-
DFW-GRU 1>10/WK JUN-
DFW-IAD 6>5 APR-
DFW-JAC 0>1 JUN-
DFW-JFK 1>2 JUN-
DFW-LIT 10>7 APR-
DFW-MKE 5>3 APR- (FL LEFT)
DFW-MTY 4>3 APR-
DFW-ONT 5>4 APR-
DFW-ORD 16>17 APR-
DFW-PDX 5>4 APR-MAY
DFW-PHX 9>8 JUN-
DFW-PIT 3>4 APR-
DFW-PSP 3>2 MAY-
DFW-PVR 16/WK>10/WK APR-
DFW-ROW 3>4 APR-
DFW-RSW 2>1 JUN-
DFW-SDF 4>5 JUN-
DFW-SEA 8>9 JUN-
DFW-SJD 3>2 APR-
DFW-SPI 0>2 APR-
DFW-YVR 2>3 JUN-
JFK-BGI 1>4/WK APR-MAY
JFK-BOS 5>6 APR-
JFK-CMH 2>3 APR-
JFK-DCA 5>8 APR-
JFK-GIG 1>5/WK APR-MAY
JFK-LAS 2>3 APR-
JFK-LHR 5>4 MAR-
JFK-MAN 0>1 APR-MAY earlier start
JFK-SAN 1>2 JUN-
JFK-SDQ 2>1 JUN-
JFK-SJO 5/WK>0 APR-
JFK-SJU 4>3 APR-
JFK-UVF 3/WK>0 JAN-
LAX-HNL 4>3 APR-
LAX-LAS 4>5 APR-
LAX-LIH 1>11/WK APR-MAY; 1>2 JUN-
LAX-MCO 1>2 APR-
LAX-MIA 7>8 APR-
LAX-SJD 1>2 APR-
MIA-BWI 2>3 APR-
MIA-DEN 2>1 APR-
MIA-DTW 1>2 APR-
MIA-GND 3/WK>4/WK FEB-
MIA-LRM 2/WK>0 APR-
MIA-MDE 2>1 APR-
MIA-PAP 3>4 APR-
MIA-PTY 3>2 APR-
MIA-PUJ 2>1 APR-MAY; 2>3 JUN-
MIA-SDQ 4>3 APR-JUN
MIA-SJO 4>3 APR-JUN
MIA-SJU 7>8 JUN-
MIA-STI 10/WK>1 APR-MAY; 10/WK>2 JUN-
MIA-STL 3>2 APR-
MIA-STT 2>3 JUN-
MIA-STX 1>2 JUN-
ORD-ANC 0>1 JUN-
ORD-EWR 8>9 APR-
ORD-JAC 0>1/WK JUN-
ORD-LAS 5>6 APR-
ORD-LAX 10>11 JUN-
ORD-MKE 6>5 APR-
ORD-MSY 4>3 FEB-
ORD-PHX 5>4 JUN-
ORD-SEA 4>6 APR-
ORD-SJD 1>0 JUN-
ORD-SPI 2>1 APR-
ORD-YYZ 8>9 APR-
STL-DCA 4>3 APR-

AS
CORRECTED LAST WEEKS FILING ERROR
ANC-ADQ 0>2 MAR-
ANC-AKN 0>1 JUN-
ANC-BET 0>3 MAR-
ANC-DLG 0>1 JUN-
ANC-FAI 6>8 DEC-
ANC-JNU 2>3 DEC-MAY; 3>4 JUN-
ANC-OME 0>1 DEC-
ANC-OTZ 0>2 MAR-
ANC-SCC 0>1 DEC-
ANC-SEA 11>12 DEC-
FAI-BRW 0>1 MAR-
FAI-SCC 0>1 DEC-
JNU-PSG 0>1 DEC-
JNU-YAK 0>1 DEC-
OME-OTZ 0>1 DEC-
SCC-BRW 0>2 DEC-
SEA-JNU 1>2 DEC-

CO/UA
CO IAH-LIM 1>0 FEB-
UA IAH-LIM 0>1 FEB-
CO IAH-SFO 7>6 MAR-
UA IAH-SFO 1>2 MAR-

UA
DEN-DTW 3>2 APR-JUN
DEN-ELP 3>4 MAR-
DEN-FCA 2>1 APR-JUN
DEN-GJT 7>8 MAR-
DEN-MEX 0>1/WK JAN-
IAD-GCM 0>1/WK FEB-
IAD-MHT 3>2 JAN-APR
LAX-PVG 0>1 MAY-
LAX-OGG 2>3 MAR-APR
ORD-CHS 3>4 APR- WN?
ORD-GSP 3>4 APR- WN?




DL
ATL-ANC 1>0 JUN- (?)
ATL-FWA 2>3 MAR-
ATL-HOU 6>7 MAR-APR
ATL-ILM 7>6 MAR-APR
ATL-LEX 9>8 MAR-JUN
ATL-LFT 4>3 JUN-
ATL-LIT 9>10 MAR-
ATL-MHT 2>1 MAR-JUN
ATL-PHF 6>5 MAR-JUN
ATL-PVG 0>2/WK JUN-
ATL-ROA 4>5 MAR-APR
ATL-TPA 12>13 APR-MAY
ATL-TRI 7>8 MAY
ATL-VPS 11>10 MAR-JUN
BOS-CDG 0>1 MAR-
BOS-LHR 0>2 MAR-
CVG-AUG 1>0 JAN- This change is out of sync with the other changes meaning they held it from earlier.
DTW-ALB 5>6 MAR-APR
DTW-BTV 4>3 MAR-JUN
DTW-CHA 1>2 MAR-
DTW-CHS 3>2 MAR-JUN
DTW-CLE 5>4 MAR-JUN
DTW-DEN 3>4 MAR
DTW-ELM 4>5 MAR-
DTW-GRR 8>9 MAR-
DTW-JAN 1>0 MAR-APR; 2>0 MAY-
DTW-LIT 2>1 MAR-JUN
DTW-MHT 4>5 MAR-
DTW-MKE 5>7 MAR-
DTW-PIT 6>7 MAR-
DTW-SAV 2>1 MAR-JUN
DTW-TVC 4>5 MAR-APR
JFK-BNA 0>1 APR-
JFK-BWI 1>2 MAR-
JFK-CDG 0>1 JUN-
JFK-KEF 1>5/WK JUN- hmm...
JFK-RIC 4>5 MAR-APR
LAS-SNA 0>1 JAN-
MSP-ABQ 2>1 MAR-JUN
MSP-ATW 5>4 MAR-JUN
MSP-BIS 6>7 MAR-APR
MSP-BJI 7>6 MAR-JUN
MSP-DEN 7>6 MAR-JUN
MSP-DFW 6>5 MAR
MSP-DLH 7>5 MAR-APR
MSP-IND 5>6 MAR-
MSP-MSO 2>1 MAR-JUN
MSP-OKC 3>2 MAR-JUN
MSP-ORF 2>1 MAR-JUN
MSP-RHI 3>2 MAR-APR
MSP-TUL 2>1 MAR-APR
SLC-BOI 7>8 MAR-
SLC-BUR 4>3 MAR-APR
SLC-ORD 5>4 MAR-APR
SLC-TUL 2>1 MAR-APR
SPN-NGO 1>1/WK APR-
SPN-NRT 18WK>15/WK APR-

FL
ATL-AUA 2/WK>1 MAR-APR
ATL-MDW 6>7 APR- WN?
ATL-PUJ 2/WK>1 MAR-APR
BOS-BWI 7>6 FEB, 9>7 MAR- WN?

LW
ABQ-ROW 0>3 MAY-
CVN-ROW 0>3 MAY-

NK
DTW-MCO 1>2 MAR-MAY
DTW-RSW 5>4 APR
FLL-KIN 1>4/WK FEB-MAY
FLL-MBJ 1>4/WK FEB-MAY
FLL-ORD 4>3 FEB-MAY
FLL-SDQ 2>10/WK FEB-MAY
FLL-SJU 4>5 FEB-MAY
FLL-TPA 3>2 FEB-MAY

WN
Represents a comparison of June to May because there was not June schedule previously to compare to.
AUS-BWI 2.0>2.8
BNA-PHX 2.0>2.8
BWI-AUS 2.0>2.8
BWI-MHT 7.6>8.4
BWI-MSY 2.0>2.9
BWI-PHX 2.9>3.8
CMH-DEN 0.0>0.9
CMH-PHX 1.0>1.7
CMH-TPA 2.0>2.9
DAL-MCI 9.0>9.6
DEN-CMH 0.0>0.9
DEN-JAX 0.0>0.9
DEN-MDW 8.2>8.7
DEN-PIT 0.0>0.9
DEN-SAT 2.8>2.1
FLL-MCO 4.8>4.1
HOU-MCO 4.0>4.9
HOU-PHL 1.0>1.8
ISP-TPA 2.0>2.6
JAX-DEN 0.0>0.9
LAS-SNA 7.5>6.8
LAX-MCI 1.9>2.7
LAX-MDW 5.7>6.7
MCI-LAX 1.9>2.7
MCO-FLL 4.8>4.0
MCO-HOU 4.0>4.9
MCO-MDW 5.9>6.9
MCO-MHT 2.0>2.9
MCO-PHX 1.0>1.7
MCO-PVD 4.9>4.1
MCO-SAT 2.0>2.9
MDW-LAX 5.6>6.5
MDW-MCO 6.0>7.1
MDW-OAK 3.0>3.9
MDW-PDX 1.8>2.8
MDW-PVD 2.9>3.7
MDW-SEA 2.9>3.8
MDW-SMF 1.0>1.7
MHT-BWI 7.6>8.5
MHT-MCO 2.0>2.9
MSY-BWI 2.0>2.7
OAK-MDW 3.0>3.9
PDX-MDW 1.8>2.8
PDX-PHX 3.0>3.7
PHL-HOU 1.0>1.6
PHL-PHX 1.0>1.9
PHL-TPA 3.0>3.8
PHX-BNA 2.0>2.6
PHX-BWI 3.0>3.6
PHX-CMH 1.0>1.9
PHX-MCO 1.0>1.9
PHX-PDX 3.0>3.9
PHX-PHL 1.0>1.7
PHX-PIT 1.0>1.9
PHX-TPA 1.0>1.9
PIT-DEN 0.0>0.9
PIT-PHX 1.0>1.9
PVD-MCO 4.9>4.1
PVD-MDW 2.9>3.7
RNO-SEA 1.0>1.7
SAN-SJC 8.5>9.5
SAT-DEN 2.8>2.1
SAT-MCO 2.0>2.9
SEA-MDW 2.7>3.7
SEA-RNO 1.0>1.7
SJC-SAN 8.7>9.5
SJC-SNA 6.6>7.5
SMF-MDW 1.0>1.9
SNA-LAS 7.5>7.0
SNA-SJC 6.5>7.3
TPA-CMH 2.0>2.9
TPA-ISP 2.0>2.8
TPA-PHL 3.0>3.6
TPA-PHX 1.0>1.7

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User currently offlinebnatraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 410 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9874 times:
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL
JFK-BNA 0>1 APR-

I've thought that this was going to return since it left when they initiated BNA-LGA, though I do think the return is somewhat of a response to the new AA BNA-JFK service.

BNA-LGA on DL has had *very* light loads, I wonder if we'll see a drop in service in the future.


User currently offlineloggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

DL
BOS-LHR 0-2....

Is this really double daily? I thought it was just one per day, but I didn't read the whole other thread on the BOS/MIA stuff.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9606 times:

Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 1):
somewhat of a response to the new AA BNA-JFK service.

More than somewhat. That's exactly what it is.

Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 1):
BNA-LGA on DL has had *very* light loads, I wonder if we'll see a drop in service in the future.

Something won't survive. It sounds like BNA-LGA.

Quoting loggat (Reply 2):
Is this really double daily? I thought it was just one per day, but I didn't read the whole other thread on the BOS/MIA stuff.

YES it is. I was shocked as well, but I was shocked a while ago. In their initial filing they asked for 2 RTs.


User currently offlinebnatraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 410 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9440 times:
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Quoting enilria (Reply 3):
Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 1):
BNA-LGA on DL has had *very* light loads, I wonder if we'll see a drop in service in the future.

Something won't survive. It sounds like BNA-LGA.

BNA-LGA is 3x; the former BNA-JFK service was 2x. I could see 1x BNA-JFK for int'l feed and 2xBNA-LGA for O&D could work, provided that there are enough O&D pax as compared to the current AA BNA-LGA and the likely, soon-to-come WN BNA-LGA.

I think that BNA-NYC is a bit tight now given the fact that it is beyond the 1-class CRJ limits DL imposed and I don't know if there is enough demand between the various current options and now DL to support the seats provided using 2-class RJ service DL provides.


User currently onlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9348 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
MIA-STL 3>2 APR-
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
STL-DCA 4>3 APR-

Disappointing, wonder where the slot for STL-DCA is going to?

Surprised though because it seemed AA was wining the fight against DL for STL-DCA, now DL will have 4 daily, and AA will have 3.

I remember when STL-DCA was 5 daily, and I think 7 with TWA?

The MIA-STL actually goes back to "normal" scheduling, the 3rd daily was an extra I think for awhile.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

CVG-AUG 1>0 JAN- This change is out of sync with the other changes meaning they held it from earlier.

I'll assume you meant AUS?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CMH-DEN 0.0>0.9
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DEN-JAX 0.0>0.9
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DEN-PIT 0.0>0.9

How do you come up with 0.9? It wasn't daily, now it is. Should it not be 0-1? I know you said you calculate the saturday reductions into the equation but it is still one flight on Saturday also?

I just ask cause SWA does this for you already when they release their extended schedule, showing a SUN-FRI flight schedule and a Saturday only IF it is Sat only, and I obviously don't see any decimal difference that you're coming up with.

Alex



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9223 times:

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 5):
Disappointing, wonder where the slot for STL-DCA is going to?

DFW - looks like more of a STL cut than an add to me.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-DCA 11>12 APR-
Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 4):
I think that BNA-NYC is a bit tight now given the fact that it is beyond the 1-class CRJ limits DL imposed and I don't know if there is enough demand between the various current options and now DL to support the seats provided using 2-class RJ service DL provides.

Lack of 2-class aircraft is also an issue - while Delta has (far) too many 50-seaters, the 70-seat fleet is actually relatively well-utilized.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3205 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9038 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL

DL cut a route that you didn't include in here. It's not officially loaded until 27NOV though so unless you come up with it I won't be able to post it until then.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9032 times:

Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 4):
and the likely, soon-to-come WN BNA-LGA.

I'm not sure that will be a super-high priority, but if BNA-LGA gets AirTran slots I would imagine MKE and CAK are definitely SOL.

Quoting bnatraveler (Reply 4):
AA BNA-LGA

Keep in mind that they have owned that market 50 years. I don't think they will be losing to DL.

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 5):
Disappointing, wonder where the slot for STL-DCA is going to?
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-DCA 11>12 APR-
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
JFK-DCA 5>8 APR-

A better question is where are the other 3 slots coming from? LOL

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 5):
How do you come up with 0.9? It wasn't daily, now it is.

I can only imagine it doesn't start on June 1 and so it is missing a few days of June. Normally, I would just go to the next month to get a full month of service, but I don't have July data yet. I only get 8 months into the future. Frankly, it's a little crazy that WN is loading a full schedule 9 months in the future. That's very weird. Don't they wanna be at all reactive to anything that changes in 3/4s of a year?


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9016 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):
I'm not sure that will be a super-high priority
STL is probably the clear first priority. I'd assume that MCI/HOU/BNA are next, though not necessarily in that order. CAK and PHF are probably toast, and I bet MKE is too. But that's still only 7 or 8 slots.

[Edited 2010-11-24 10:44:06]


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User currently onlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8956 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):
Frankly, it's a little crazy that WN is loading a full schedule 9 months in the future. That's very weird. Don't they wanna be at all reactive to anything that changes in 3/4s of a year?

WN explained that customers are demanding more days and ability to book ahead. Seems WN was losing possible revenue booking by customers going to other airlines because WN wasn't extending the booking schedule.

WN has admitted this is the farthest they have allowed..from the blog...

Today, we put our Summer, 2011 schedule out for sale. We're now accepting reservations all the way out until August 12, 2011--nearly 270 days of bookable inventory. That's the most we've EVER had available for sale!!!

So at this point in time don't expect too much drastic changes if any, and I know you'll be the first to catch any WN changes.

Expect an EWR announcement for the 2nd round sometimes soon.

Alex



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8956 times:

Ouch. MSP got hit pretty hard this spring.

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3205 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8923 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 11):
Ouch. MSP got hit pretty hard this spring.

Almost all of them return in JUN, luckily.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8697 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
STL is probably the clear first priority.

I'm not so sure. Do they really need it from both EWR and LGA when slots are so tight at both?

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
I'd assume that MCI/HOU/BNA are next,

No Florida? I know it's low yield, but...

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
CAK and PHF are probably toast, and I bet MKE is too. But that's still only 7 or 8 slots.

If you are right, they might as well fold up CAK and PHF. Even if they get F9 or NK to come in there with more flights, they aren't going to get slots easily.

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 10):
WN explained that customers are demanding more days and ability to book ahead.

Probably true, but the difference between WN and everybody else is that WN really doesn't do ANY schedule changes once they sell a schedule. They may add flights (EWR) and sometimes they cancel a Saturday or two from an already published schedule, but up until now they do not change their schedules once published unless their is an Act of God or War. That may be about to go in the trash bin, because I don't see how you can publish a schedule 9 months in advance...not change it at all...and call that optimizing revenue.

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 10):
Expect an EWR announcement for the 2nd round sometimes soon.

The big question is whether EWR-BOS is in it. If it is, then it will blunt B6 and cost a lot of slots. If not, they will be adding alot of other destinations. It might be smarter to go after B6 on EWR-Florida. They had to really rip up their Florida schedule to mine the slots for BOS-EWR.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22924 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8642 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 13):
I'm not so sure. Do they really need it from both EWR and LGA when slots are so tight at both?

I think so. STL is the first city where WN is making a conscious effort to become the airline of choice for business passengers. That's why they started BOS and MSP so soon in those stations' lives, and why they've announced EWR even with limited slots. Can WN be the airline of choice for business passengers without LGA (and DCA)? I don't think so.

Quoting enilria (Reply 13):
No Florida? I know it's low yield, but...

Maybe - but I'd think that that, too, would be a similar priority to BNA, HOU, and MCI if they're interested (and I might throw more BWI and/or MDW in there too).



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User currently offlineDLHFLYER From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
MSP-BJI 7>6 MAR-JUN

Are you sure about this? The day Bemidji has 7 or even 6 flights is a crazy day.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8467 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-MKE 5>3 APR- (FL LEFT)

This frequency cut isn't just because FL left, but also that DFW-MKE-DFW is going to mainline, so it's actually a substantial jump in number of seats.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-CMH 5>7 APR-MAY; 5>8 JUN-

Reason for the large addition of seats and flights?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-CLE 4>3 APR-

Going mainline, substantial addition of seats.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-LIT 10>7 APR-

Some going mainline, another substantial jump in seats.



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User currently offlinerangercarp From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8420 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
JFK-KEF 1>5/WK JUN- hmm...

Interesting... Does that mean they are flying the route daily and are dropping it down to 5 per week, or is it once per week going up to 5? When did (do) they start flying to Iceland?



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9196 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8264 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 16):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-CLE 4>3 APR-

Going mainline, substantial addition of seats.

Are all those frequencies going to be MD80 equipment? I saw PIT going from 3 to 4. Is that extra frequency mainline or AA/Eagle?

Nice to see an additional frequency on DTW-PIT courtesy of DL. All the additional flights from WN into PIT aren't that big of a shock. I saw the press releases on those last week. This could be the first time in a decade since PIT saw an annual increase in pax...



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8159 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-MKE 5>3 APR- (FL LEFT)

Eagle left, too.

It is going from five daily RJs to three daily MD80s.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8113 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 18):
Are all those frequencies going to be MD80 equipment? I saw PIT going from 3 to 4. Is that extra frequency mainline or AA/Eagle?

CLE is going to 3x MD80, and PIT is going to 4x MD80.



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User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3739 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
ATL-FWA 2>3 MAR-

I never understood why Delta dropped the third FWA-ATL last year in the first place. DL dropped it at a time (fall 2010 schedule) when FWA loads and yields in general, DL included, were improving to record levels. FWA's traffic is up 4% so far this year from 2009 despite fewer seats available versus 2009, and every little flight counts.

Anyway, it's great to see the third DL ATL flight back (plus Eagle's fourth ORD).



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User currently offlineSATexan From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7760 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DFW-SPI 0>2 APR

Nice addition! Good to see AA serve the Illinois market pretty well out of DFW


User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7706 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA
MIA-LRM 2/WK>0 APR-

As SJU-LRM also ends in APR, this means that LRM is closing for AA...

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA
JFK-SJO 5/WK>0 APR-
JFK-UVF 3/WK>0 JAN-
ORD-SJD 1>0 JUN-

All of these were flown last summer, so I assume they are axing them.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA
JFK-BGI 1>4/WK APR-MAY
JFK-BOS 5>6 APR-
JFK-CMH 2>3 APR-
JFK-DCA 5>8 APR-
JFK-GIG 1>5/WK APR-MAY
JFK-LAS 2>3 APR-
JFK-LHR 5>4 MAR-
JFK-MAN 0>1 APR-MAY earlier start
JFK-SAN 1>2 JUN-
JFK-SDQ 2>1 JUN-
JFK-SJO 5/WK>0 APR-
JFK-SJU 4>3 APR-
JFK-UVF 3/WK>0 JAN-

Overrall there are 4 more flights. We can be sure now that this spring they won't launch the expect 4 new european routes + the new south american one...   

[Edited 2010-11-24 13:51:16]

User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7705 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL

DL cut a route that you didn't include in here. It's not officially loaded until 27NOV though so unless you come up with it I won't be able to post it until then.

They are also adding a new route out of a slot-restricted airport. But again, can't say until 27NOV. The slot is coming off a route that has already been mentioned in this thread.



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25 FWAERJ : Is that slot coming from BNA-LGA? FWA-MSP returns in June, too. It's not officially announced, but it was just loaded into delta.com today. DL4018 (o
26 FL787 : It's (re)starting in July.
27 bnatraveler : delta.com is showing the following operating as of 5/12/11: DL6390 BNA 1100 JFK 1430 CR7 DL5983 BNA 0745 LGA 1059 E75 DL6294 BNA 1020 LGA 1334 CR7 DL
28 flyCMH : It appears to be a flaw in Sabre when the schedule was updated. There is an upguage in equipment scheduled on the CMH-DFW route for the above-mention
29 MAH4546 : LRM is going seasonal, I am told. The airport is privately owned and the route is basically a subsidized service. JFK-CMH/DCA are not gaining flights
30 DFWEagle : I think the JFK-DCA and JFK-BOS changes are errors and will remain at 5x daily each. I also think JFK-CMH will remain at 2x daily. The reduction in J
31 MAH4546 : It has to be used on MIA-MDE. AA has no choice. With open skies pending, AA might try to move it around. But AA did this a few months ago - remove MI
32 SANFan : I'm very happy to see AA doubling SAN-JFK at least for the summer! (They have taken the back seat to both DL and B6 in the market over the last couple
33 Post contains images steeler83 : Wow. I didn't realize that DFW-PIT was all mainline equipment. The last time I checked they had 2 MD80s and 2 CRJs. Nice to see it entirely served wi
34 aflyingkiwi : I really don't know what DL was thinking when they started this route. There are tons of better places to put a 757 from JFK. I wonder how well DL do
35 jfklganyc : JFK-BOS 5>6 APR- JFK-CMH 2>3 APR- JFK-DCA 5>8 APR- JFK-LAS 2>3 APR- Interesting . . . JFK-LHR 5>4 MAR- Ouch! JFK-SDQ 2>1 JUN- JFK-SJ
36 Post contains images kgaiflyer : Ah. Someone finally noticed that El Paso is *closer to Denver* than to Houston.
37 OA412 : Is it the LAS-SNA route that was mentioned in another thread? Last year, DL did mention that its Pacific beach markets (HNL, SPN, GUM) were actually
38 FL787 : No. It's an east coast slot restricted airport.
39 FWAERJ : There are only 4 (5?) east coast slot-restricted airports: JFK, LGA, EWR, DCA, and maybe HPN. I'd say LGA. And I'm willing to bet that LGA-BNA is the
40 Summa767 : AA is only tied to 7 weekly frequencies to MDE. The other 7 could be used on BOG or CLO. What I would not understand is if AA were to increase MIA-BO
41 AVLAirlineFreq : Very happy to see it back, but was hoping it would go 2x/day, and start before June (it started in April this year). The route did well, at least in
42 atrude777 : No one said the route is being CUT, just there is a slot transfer from this route (that already exists) to a new route that will be released on Nov 2
43 United1 : JFK-OSL perhaps...
44 Post contains images atrude777 : We'll see! Actually to clarify, Transpac787 has mentioned a route is being cut, he did not say this was a slot specific airport though, this cut has
45 steex : My guess is a reduction to 3x daily on STL-DCA, especially in light of the fact that AA also seems to be pulling back. Granted, DL theoretically shou
46 Cubsrule : WN may also start STL-DCA when it gets control of the FL slots. If so, that'll be the end of at least one of DL and AA on the route.
47 Post contains images FL787 : DL is starting DCA-MSY with that slot. The route that is ending is SLC-MOT. All 3 changes show on delta.com now.
48 FWAERJ : Wow, that didn't last long.
49 steex : Ending SLC-MOT doesn't surprise me all that much, I suspect it's probably hurt by UA also starting DEN-MOT. The hop to DEN is noticeably shorter than
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