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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 804 times:

Many airlines, especially those outside the U.S., lease their aircraft from Leasing companies like Flightlease, ILFC, Boullioun, CIT, GE Capital (GECA), GATX, and others. I think GECA and ILFC are the biggest.

Swissair, for instance does not own a single plane. They are all leased from Flightlease (which happens to be an subsidiary (unconsolidated, I think).

These companies must own thousands upon thousands of aircraft - the value of their balance sheets must be tremendous (1000 planes, average $100 million a piece= $100 billion, ballpark), but you almost never hear of them.

Does anone know where we can get some financial detail on these leasing companies? They don't even have web sites, that I could find.

Charles

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User currently offlineAerokid From Belgium, joined Jun 2000, 348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 766 times:

Probably because they are integrated into other companies. Like GE Capital is a subsidiary of General Electric an Flightlease is owned by the SAir Group. I believe ILFC is owned by several major banks or financial institutions.

That all I know, you're right, they really don't reveal much about themselves.

Best regards,
GR.


User currently offlineAerokid From Belgium, joined Jun 2000, 348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 762 times:

By the way, they are on the net:

ILFC
http://www.ilfc.com

Flightlease
http://www.flightlease.com

GE Capital
http://www.cefcorp.com/aircraft/

Boullioun
http://www.boullioun.com/home.html

GATX
http://www.gatx.com/

CIT
http://www.citgroup.com/

Have a look...

Best regards,
GR.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 754 times:

Hmm... I wonder why I couldn't find them...

The numbers are pretty big. ILFC however, the biggest one, doesn't seem to disclose any financials.

Thanks for the info.

Charles


User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 735 times:

ILFC is a subsidiary of AIG (American International Group)


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