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American 1 Emergency Landing (12/4), Any Details?  
User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 17619 times:

There was an American 767-200 (Flight #1) that landed at LAX yesterday after doing what looked like a stall speed flyby over the 24 side and then landed around 15 minutes later on 25L.

I captured the event on video, at around the 6:45 mark in the video you see the flyby. Then at 8:38 you see the 767 clearing the runway with fire equipment in trail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7EVxbVyJVo

Any details would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ryan

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User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 17490 times:

What time was it? nice vid

User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 17369 times:

Ahhh! Just found it on Live ATC Archive, It was a Potential Flap Problem.
Go in the Archive here http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php
Select 4th Dec, then KLAX tower then 20:00Z   it's at approx 24 mins, you might need the 20:30 too  


User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1024 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 17233 times:

Quoting B737-112 (Thread starter):
I captured the event on video, at around the 6:45 mark in the video you see the flyby. Then at 8:38 you see the 767 clearing the runway with fire equipment in trail.
Quoting fca767 (Reply 2):
It was a Potential Flap Problem.

Flap Disagree Message on the EICAS computer.


David



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User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16984 times:

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 3):
Flap Disagree Message on the EICAS computer.


David

I thought about whether they just put the flaps down and hear something 


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 15155 times:

I appreciate the replies! You guys are amazing, I knew if there was one place on earth that I could actually find the answer, Airliners.net is the answer.

fca767- thank man! You are too cool.

boeing767mech- I love the detailed info, thanks!

Ryan


User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12401 times:

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 5):
fca767- thank man! You are too cool.

You welcome   I want to do the same at Manchester Airport and be there for any emergency with ATC fed into my camera  


User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10914 times:

What a GORGEOUS video!! Thank you B737-112! I loved every second! Great variety of airliners too.


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User currently offlineflyhossd From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 831 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8482 times:

Nice video.

At about 6:13, the AA 767-300 against the blue and white sky is worth a still photo. Very nice.



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6875 times:

Quoting B737-112 (Thread starter):
a stall speed flyby

No such thing, specially on an airliner. It was just a go-around, he was well above stall speed.

A "high alpha pass" may be closer to what you describe, but pretty much only fighters at an airshow will do that.

[Edited 2010-12-05 18:24:15]

User currently offlinecbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1550 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 9):
No such thing, specially on an airliner. It was just a go-around, he was well above stall speed.

 Wow! You mean their were not doing slow flight down the length of the runway? Yeah it was most likely a go-around or it could have been a low pass for ATC to perhaps visually check the flaps and see if they could see anything unusual. Although they mostly reserve that for the gear issues  



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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6350 times:

Quoting cbphoto (Reply 10):
Yeah it was most likely a go-around

I heard the ATC tapes, they stated they were going around. A fly-by over 500ft AGL would be pointless anyways.


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9700 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6199 times:
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Quoting B737-112 (Thread starter):
There was an American 767-200 (Flight #1) that landed at LAX yesterday after doing what looked like a stall speed flyby over the 24 side and then landed around 15 minutes later on 25L.

I captured the event on video, at around the 6:45 mark in the video you see the flyby. Then at 8:38 you see the 767 clearing the runway with fire equipment in trail.

What time were you up at the hill? I was there between 3 and 4 PM or so, and saw a UA 752 go around, but nothing else special  



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User currently offlinetzadik From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

was 25R closed? nice vid, makes me miss home.

[Edited 2010-12-05 20:16:42]

User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

vikkyvik, my best guess would be from 11:20 to 1:00 or so.

User currently offlinedashman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Judging by the altitude, they were probably selecting flap 25 or 30. If there were a flap malfunction the crew probably would not want to raise flaps (if they could) on the go around. At those flap settings maximum airspeed is 190/170 knots respectively. Obviously they would not want to exceed those speeds. Looks like to me to be about a 180 knot go around. In my flap malfuntion events that is generally how it goes.

User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 14):
vikkyvik, my best guess would be from 11:20 to 1:00 or so.

the 20:00Z would make it 12pm   I had to look on the timezone thingy though  


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