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Daytona Beach To Get Heavier Metal  
User currently offlinexpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 634 posts, RR: 7
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9381 times:

DAB is set to get some nice equipment upgrades this next year...something I have been looking forward to as a resident to the area!

As it stands now, DAB gets a fair share of MD88s, CRJs (700 and 900), and DC95s.

Beginning later this month, A319's will be introduced onto the route, and this will extend through February, where the A319 will sometimes be scheduled as an A320.

What really has me excited though, is that from late February on the 757s will be moved in 2x daily.

In March, the 757s will takeover entirely, and operate regular schedule 5x daily service for as long as I can see. Pretty cool, considering DAB has usually only seen 757s come in on race week.  

Here's to hoping DL doesn't fiddle with this too much as it continues to get closer!

[Edited 2010-12-05 14:33:52]

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User currently offlinewingsofman72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9214 times:

They need Heavier metal...way back in '78 I rode EA 572 MIA-DAB-ATL...Great for non-revs...you would never fell fill a L1011 MIA DAB, or even DAB-ATL, no idea what they were thinking with this (it normally went MIA-MCO-ATL), but back then there were all kinds of odd Widebody routes (MIA-FLL for example).
EA had some kind of policy that most of the fleet going to FLA ended up in MIA each night, so there were lots of short flight in and out of MIA late/eary..must have been costly..that's why we always said it was the worlds biggest non-proft airline.


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8978 times:
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Those 757's will last through Spring Break...and will probably return to status quo by May. The build-up happens this time of year.

User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3626 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8961 times:

"They need Heavier metal...way back in '78 I rode EA 572 MIA-DAB-ATL...Great for non-revs...you would never fell fill a L1011 MIA DAB, or even DAB-ATL, no idea what they were thinking with this (it normally went MIA-MCO-ATL), but back then there were all kinds of odd Widebody routes (MIA-FLL for example).
EA had some kind of policy that most of the fleet going to FLA ended up in MIA each night, so there were lots of short flight in and out of MIA late/eary..must have been costly..that's why we always said it was the worlds biggest non-proft airline."


A lot has changed in DAB since then...and not for the better. The economy stinks, spring break left (although I think it has come back a bit), GE left.

While I was at ERAU, DL had a regular schedule of 7 flights a day. 5 were on MD 88s and 2 were on CRJs. Prices were always $50 more than MCO . . . so everyone went to MCO. I'd imagine the same dynamic exists today.


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8691 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 3):
While I was at ERAU, DL had a regular schedule of 7 flights a day. 5 were on MD 88s and 2 were on CRJs. Prices were always $50 more than MCO . . . so everyone went to MCO. I'd imagine the same dynamic exists today.

Not anymore it seems. The last few times I've needed to get out of DAB, the price difference between Orlando and Daytona has been so small (or in some cases cheaper out of DAB) that it doesn't make sense to spend an hour each way to save $15 on airfare. Granted, lots of people still go to Orlando to get to a destination non-stop, but if connecting isn't a big issue, its to the point that Daytona is probably a better deal when you look at the big picture of drive time, checkin time, security time and cost.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlinemanfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8600 times:

My fondest memory of school has to be when I was in the alphabet buildings in class when the B1 Bomber was taking off. It was the end of the airshow and our professor had to stop talking for at least a minute while the after burners lit up. Finally she said, "alright" and we all ran outside to watch it take off.

I'm glad to hear Delta is bringing the 757's full time. I remember them during race week and thinking it would be nice to see them everyday. I even got to see a 16 approach one day with the 757, what a sight.

I think LTU used to come in from Germany. I don't remember how often it was but it seemed bi weekly. That only lasted a year or so after I got to school.



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User currently offline757dab From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8495 times:

Delta brought the 757's down in 2008 for about two months, but it was only one a day and it was a late arrival and a early morning departure. I decided to take a day trip to ATL just for the hell of it, plus it was dirt cheap. I'm glad Delta is bringing some new metal down and to see the 757 back in DAB


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User currently offlinejamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7926 times:

Quoting wingsofman72 (Reply 1):
They need Heavier metal...way back in '78 I rode EA 572 MIA-DAB-ATL...Great for non-revs...you would never fell fill a L1011 MIA DAB, or even DAB-ATL, no idea what they were thinking with this (it normally went MIA-MCO-ATL), but back then there were all kinds of odd Widebody routes (MIA-FLL for example).
EA had some kind of policy that most of the fleet going to FLA ended up in MIA each night, so there were lots of short flight in and out of MIA late/eary..must have been costly..that's why we always said it was the worlds biggest non-proft airline.

Eastern flew L-1011's into DAB because they had a large cargo contract with an auto parts manufacturer. The freight was flown to ATL and then up to DTW to supply one of the big three auto makers. After a while, the manufacturer decided it was less expensive to have the auto parts shipped via truck, rather than via air...or so the story goes...



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

One of the 757's will be a 5500 series while the other will be a PMDL 757 with the other flights being MD-88's in February.

During march and april all the flights are 757's.

In may (of course likely to change) its 4x M88 and 1x 757.



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5332 times:

I still remember the LTU MD-11 serive to DUS from DAB, that was really odd.


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User currently offlinedab1778q From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

What is all the hoopla for. The 757 is a fine machine but it is the most uncomfortable airplane (in coach) in Delta's fleet. I try to avoid them.

User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

We would see occassional heavy metal at DAB when I went to Riddle.

During one of the Daytona 500s they actually brought in a couple 767-300s.

When Jacksonville had the Superbowl in 2006, they brought in charter Delta 767-400s, one carried the New England Patriots. As the one guy said about the B-1s, it seemed like everyone let their classes out to watch the 767-400s take off. The one pilot showed off on departure too. He departed empty on 25R and I swear he was airborne by 16/34 intersection and took off in the steepest angle he could acting like he was flying an F-15.

They brought in B-1s for the (then) Pepsi 400 race and the 2006 Daytona 500.


User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4196 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 4):

Not anymore it seems. The last few times I've needed to get out of DAB, the price difference between Orlando and Daytona has been so small (or in some cases cheaper out of DAB) that it doesn't make sense to spend an hour each way to save $15 on airfare. Granted, lots of people still go to Orlando to get to a destination non-stop, but if connecting isn't a big issue, its to the point that Daytona is probably a better deal when you look at the big picture of drive time, checkin time, security time and cost.

-DiamondFlyer

  

When I was a student at ERAU, DAB would be more expensive than MCO, but then you had to rely on the DOTS service to go to and from MCO from ERAU, which was $32 each way, unreliable, and on a limited schedule. The premium DL charges for DAB service pays for itself and then some because not only is it less than a DOTS roundtrip, but also with the DAB terminal located across the field from ERAU, you can either walk or get a $5 cab to the airport and also have shorter lines and waits at DAB, especially where TSA is concerned.


User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

During the Super Bowl not only did we get the B764 in JAX we also got a NW DC-10-30. Both went to Cecil Field (VQQ).

This season with the Jaguars charters we've been getting alot of extra sections and upgrades in and out of JAX. Extra 757's here and there, a few days we've had 757-300's, a few 767-300's.. It's nice to see. Anyone remember when JAX was pretty much all 767-300?



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3692 times:

The coolest heavy metal they ever got is in this photo: http://news-journalonline.mycapture....4743&event=809408&CategoryID=51990

User currently offlineKennyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Nice to see a few people around who've been to ERAU. I'm graduating from there next semester.

Got a question regarding the upgrade. DAB's 7L-25R, which is the main runway (10,000 long) is under construction now, so the first 3,000 are closed (I'm giving rough numbers).

When they plan to reconstruct the center portion of 7L-25R, they're going to close the whole runway. This means only 7R-25L and 16-34 will be available. 7R-25L is definitely out of the question, way to short (about 3,200 feet long), only GA aircraft.

16-34 is exactly 6,001 feet. I suppose DL will have to use it (USAir already does with their regional flights into DAB). But I have NEVER seen a DL plane takeoff from 16-34. They come in to land from time to time, but always request 7L-25R for depature, even if that means a crosswind.

So what's going to happen? Can the A319/20, 757s come in and out of a 6,000 long runway? Is it only a question of SOPs that DL doesn't usually use 16-34 for departure with their MD-88s and DC-9s?



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User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

Quoting Kennyone (Reply 15):
So what's going to happen? Can the A319/20, 757s come in and out of a 6,000 long runway? Is it only a question of SOPs that DL doesn't usually use 16-34 for departure with their MD-88s and DC-9s?

Yes, they can. Allegiant got an MD-8x out of there the week of the airshow on 34 this fall, so I don't imagine a DL MD-88 will be a big deal on 16/34. I'd imagine it won't be that big of deal for a 757 either, seeing as they operate out of SNA daily, with just 5700 feet of runway.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlinerscaife1682 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2974 times:

Just MD-80's when I was there and I was way cheaper to fly out of MCO back in 2000-2002.

User currently offlineB777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 weeks ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Those 757's will last through Spring Break...and will probably return to status quo by May. The build-up happens this time of year.

DL has not done this before ever were they went to all 757. This is not the traditional winter build up.


User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3838 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

I agree that DAB is getting more and more reasonable price-wise. I've been able to get into DAB for ~$200 a number of times over the last couple years, both on DL & occasionally US. If nothing else, it beats the hell out of using MCO.

I'll probably be down in March & will definitely shoot at a 757 ride in/out of town if I can get it.

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 16):
I'd imagine it won't be that big of deal for a 757 either, seeing as they operate out of SNA daily, with just 5700 feet of runway.

I was on a DL 757 that took off on 33 at DCA in February 09, which is 5,204 feet.

Off topic, that was beyond fun.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3838 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting dab1778q (Reply 10):
What is all the hoopla for. The 757 is a fine machine but it is the most uncomfortable airplane (in coach) in Delta's fleet. I try to avoid them.

It's something other than/bigger than an MD-88 or CRJ operating into DAB...and it's five times a day!  



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