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End Of An Era - JAL B747 Last Flight  
User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 25493 times:

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It is truly an end of an era. JAL has operated B747 (-100s to -400s) for over 40 years. It was very sad to see many parked 744s in NRT when I was passing through last week.

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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8153 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25364 times:

Oh-so-hard to fathom. Seriously.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31003 posts, RR: 86
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25349 times:
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If they survive as an international carrier, they might take the 747-8 if they're still big enough.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2899 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25285 times:
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I have to assume that JAL kept those birds in very good shape. How many are there? Would Delta or United or some other international airline want to sweap 'em up?


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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4504 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 25130 times:

How long has it been since JAL last operated a Resocha-themed 747?

User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 25120 times:
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Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 4):
How long has it been since JAL last operated a Resocha-themed 747?

I believe it was some time around 2007 when the last Reso'cha B743 was painted into the current livery, and the B743 continued to operate until July 2009 on a HNL-NRT flight. The last B744 flight will be HNL-NRT as well, on JL75.


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 25021 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 3):
I have to assume that JAL kept those birds in very good shape. How many are there? Would Delta or United or some other international airline want to sweap 'em up?

There was a Rumor that DL was interested in snapping up those birds. I know DL is moving away from the 747 in the long term, but those planes would have provided them with a cheap way to expand international ops. quickly. I haven't heard any discussion lately, can I assume that it was just a rumor with no substance?



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User currently offlinekiwimex From Mexico, joined Nov 2009, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24999 times:

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User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24945 times:

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 6):
I know DL is moving away from the 747 in the long term

Not true, unless we're talking like 15 years+ from now. I know the PMNW 744s are being upgraded with lie-flat seats and new IFE.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1118

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 6):
can I assume that it was just a rumor with no substance?

Who knows. It would seem like a nice, frugal solution if they need the lift, but I've heard that the DL 744 utilization is pretty low. Then again, I've also heard that DL currently has more 744 pilots than it needs (implying that they might be adding to the fleet), so it's anyone's guess.

The funny thing is, if they do end up with DL, they'll still be seeing a lot of NRT.



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User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24896 times:

What aircraft are replacing these 747s?


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24897 times:

Indeed sad.

I have many memories of seeing JAL 747 tails lined up at Narita over the years - and a few memories flying on JAL 747s - all of which were great experiences. Flying up in the hump was the best.


User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24850 times:
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Quoting m11stephen (Reply 9):
What aircraft are replacing these 747s?

All flights B744 flights will be downsized to various aircraft from the B77W to the B763. All HNL flights will be B763s.

Quoting commavia (Reply 10):
I have many memories of seeing JAL 747 tails lined up at Narita over the years

Same here, it will be different at HNL once it loses its last JL B744. I remember the days of the tsuru on the tail, along with the various Reso'cha liveries . . . mostly classic B747s (plus a handful of DC-10s and a B744).


User currently offlinebrightcedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 24529 times:

For an airline that was so proud of flying the B747 and making it its standard equipment for decades, they really had to swallow this and I hope it will yield many successes in the future. I wish I had a chance to fly on one fitted by JL.


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 24509 times:

Its JALs good-bye from the first row of international airlines. Very sad, they are only a mere shadow of the past now.

User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 24503 times:

Just found this:
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3

JALs two beautiful silver bullet freighters have found new homes, though different ones. One is going to Asiana, the other to ever-growing Air Bridge Cargo.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24092 times:
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OF the original 741 operators, JAL and Air France are the only ones to have flown all versions in cluding teh 743. BA and Lufthansa didn't fly the 743 and KLM flew the 742, 743, and 744 but not teh 741. Sadly the original 741 airline, Pan AM, left us long ago.

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23653 times:

Truly and end-of-an era . BTW did KL fly the 743 or just the 742SUD ? At least i got a few pics of JL @ LAS before they left there.


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User currently offlinetrystero From Portugal, joined Oct 2008, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23606 times:

JAL leaving 747's sounds really weird..


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23546 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 15):
Sadly the original 741 airline, Pan AM, left us long ago.

Didn't UA, NH, and NW also fly all four models of the B-747? Also TW was another of the original B-741 operators, and they are long gone too.


User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23402 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Didn't UA, NH, and NW also fly all four models of the B-747?

Nope UA and NW didn't fly the -300.

There has been a pretty good battle over these planes amongst some freight airlines. Their next life is more likely to be as BCF's.



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User currently offlineGarpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2660 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23346 times:

It is hard to imagine JAL sans 747's. A sad sign of their dire situation.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23260 times:

Quoting United_fan (Reply 16):
BTW did KL fly the 743 or just the 742SUD ?

KL flew both


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5085 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 23130 times:

Will be sad to see the 747 leaves JAL's fleet.


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User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22988 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 15):
OF the original 741 operators, JAL and Air France are the only ones to have flown all versions in cluding teh 743. BA and Lufthansa didn't fly the 743 and KLM flew the 742, 743, and 744 but not teh 741. Sadly the original 741 airline, Pan AM, left us long ago.

Also SN flew 3 types of the 747. They started with the 741 which were later converted to the first Combi's, then they operated also 742's though they were owned by AF but flew in full SN scheme and then had also 2 743's from which one was the last 743 build by Boeing. Unfortunately SN stopped operating the 747 in favour of Airbus.


User currently offlinemdword1959 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22086 times:

They're already scrapping a former JAL 744D at ROW.

http://planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1000031


25 Post contains images Tinosky : I am really glad I had the chance to fly on a JAL 747 YVR - NRT in September. It's going to be sad seeing the big red tails leave. Cheers, Tino~
26 jfk777 : UA, ANA and NW flew 741, 742 and 744. Many airlines with long routes stuck to the 742 since the 743 and 742 were the same plane except for teh upper
27 Post contains images Daysleeper : Very sad, she is only 18 too. I guess there isn't much market for the "D"'s though
28 Aaron747 : UA was also the only one of those three to fly the 747SP, even if it was for just a few years.
29 Rui777 : So, the last flight will be next February 28, it seems. Indeed a bit earlier than I was expecting. Does anyone knows which route will it be? My first
30 FX1816 : Well technically they did not fly all of the versions of the 747, they didn't fly the 747SP. FX1816
31 JL418 : It's sad to see those airplanes leaving the skies. I've flown with JAL my first two intercontinental routes, MXP-NRT and back on ships JA8921 and JA89
32 kaitak : 777-300ERs internationally (although some 763s to HNL - until the 787s arrive, presumably) and 777s domestically. Not having 747s doesn't mean they c
33 747srule : At one time,were they not the airline with the most 744's?
34 United_fan : I'm sure NH's won't be around for much longer . It does show the great performance of the 77W.
35 craigpc01 : So their SFO service will drop from 77W to NRT to a 763 to HNL?
36 mxp : i rememberd when i worked in MXP that i was always waiting for JAL from NRT. in fact the only shot i have in all my airplane spotter experience seated
37 NASCARAirforce : Last summer I saw an ex Reso'cha 747, I think 200 or SR model parked at Oscoda Michigan. Kalita had picked one up for parts. It was still in Reso'cha
38 PPVRA : Are all the Ds going to be scrapped?
39 QualityDr : My last flight on a JL 744 was from Hong Kong to Narita, some 4 years ago. Great service, wonderful view from the upper deck! I was always hoping to c
40 YULWinterSkies : While it is true that any given airline can be in the first row without operating the 747 (EK certainly is one of them), in the case of JL, it's all
41 AirbusA6 : It's also a sign of the lack of growth of Japan as an aviation hub and destination. While travel into other Asian hubs rockets, Japan's 2 major carri
42 N471wn : It appears so as they are such high cycle....reasonable hours to be sure but the high cycles dooms them: but their engines and parts will live on!!
43 413X3 : I think the end of the JAL Cargo division is the biggest shocker of them all, 747's for passenger service are falling out of favor when twin engines c
44 Ben175 : I was lucky to fly one of these birds only once on JO72 NRT-HNL back in July 2008. It was a really nice flight, the crew were amazing and the aircraft
45 Aaron747 : It already does. Was just up on the Interisland parking garage this morning and saw five red-arced 763 tails for the first time ever. Utter boredom.
46 2707200X : It is hard to imagine JAL without a passenger 747 in its fleet and lots of them. It wasn't even that long ago since JAL retired the DC-10 from its fle
47 wn700driver : An economic necessity... But still, just not right. Like seeing the US Navy with no Aircraft carriers all of a sudden... Well, at least there is hope
48 BN747 : You're forgetting, Qantas flew every type (including the 747SP which JAL did not), as did Iberia, Saudia, South African Awys and Air India. BN747
49 kiwiandrew : When did QF fly -100s ? I think that you will find they had -200/-300/-400/SP but no -100s.
50 lightsaber : Ditto. Last time I was at HNL, the big JAL 744 was there. It just was... expected. How many 744s have been scrapped? I'm aware of a tiny number... if
51 MSPNWA : It already is. I was there last week, and I likely saw a JAL 747 for the final time. They were down to just flight #75/76 as a 747, and even that fli
52 28L28L : Don't know if they qualify, but Qantas did lease at least three 747-100s in the late 1980s for brief seasonal periods. They were EI-BED (19748), N9311
53 ha763 : Actually, SFO was changed to the 777-300ER back in Sept. 2008. With the switch to HND, the aircraft downgauged to a 777-200ER. The downgauge to 767-3
54 Viscount724 : As far as I know, SAA didn't operate the 747-100 and Air India didn't operate the 747-100 or 747SP.
55 je89_w : Wait, so HNL is getting B788s from JAL once delivered? That's awesome! It still will be sad when March 1 rolls around though.
56 N471wn : 5 D's are now (or will soon) be scrapped---4 at ARG and 1 at ROS
57 Post contains links and images spacecadet : Some of my own pics (you can click them for a slightly bigger version): I will be really sad to see them go. I still see the one 744 from Brazil fly i
58 ha763 : The news I heard was 777s for sure, but that is not going to happen until the 787s begin delivery. HNL is probably not going to see any JAL 787s unti
59 Post contains images wn700driver : So, what you're saying is that the 763ERs will be doing HNL... Forever?
60 Flyingsottsman : Every time I hear an airline fazing out 747 ops its hard to belive that the Queen of the Skies will be no more. I remember seeing a heap of Jal 747s a
61 COSPN : Those 747's almost killed JAL good bye.... time for modern aircraft, the future not the past this is Japan after all..............
62 Post contains links B727LVR : Here is a press release I found regarding some of the JAL 744's. Looks like most will find a new home! http://www.aersale.com/press_release6.pdf
63 Post contains links and images Aaron747 : Just two months ago at HNL: A scene that is now no more.
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