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4 A330 For Air India + 10 A330 For Jet Aw  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

http://www.aerocontact.com/actualite...t-militaires-avec-la-fr~11140.html

Nothing signed yet , but Air India will lease 4 A330 and Jet Aw 10 A330.

In fact Air India want 10 A330 on lease , 10 A32X , 4 738 (AI Express) , 15 ATR and 10 CRJ700.

These comments have been made during State visit of Sarkozy in India.To be confirmed............

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9580 times:

Has AI given any indication of what variant it wants - and what kind of routes it wants to operate them on?

Are these going to be stopgaps, pending the introduction of the 787s (whenever they come?)


User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4745 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9199 times:
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Are the AI planes a new order or are they picking up planes from lessors?

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8468 times:

Louis Gallois himself told AI has chosen to lease NOT 4 , but 10 A330 (A332 ?) and 15 A32X.
He didn't reveal the name (s ?) of the lessor (s ?) and said there is a possibility AI lease some of them directly from Airbus (A la Singapore Al).Obviously NOT a direct purchase.
Question : Are these planes already in the porfolio of some lessors , or will they be new orders to come by lessors ?In the last case will be new order , similar to the last 777 order by BOC for Thai.

No words about the 10 A332 for Jet Aw.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8212 times:

Ten more for Jet Airways? That would take them to 27 owned and leased - quite a fleet. Might this presage the final removal of 777-300ERs from the fleet to standardise on the A330 - at least till the 787s arrive?

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8202 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Might this presage the final removal of 777-300ERs from the fleet

TK will be returning 4 x 77Ws back to 9W by next summer, any ideas where will they end up??


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8129 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 5):
Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Might this presage the final removal of 777-300ERs from the fleet

TK will be returning 4 x 77Ws back to 9W by next summer, any ideas where will they end up??

EY or QR are buying them, last I heard on the grapevine.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2970 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7027 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 1):

Has AI given any indication of what variant it wants - and what kind of routes it wants to operate them on?

Rumours say of the first 4, 3 will be A332s and one will be A333.

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Ten more for Jet Airways?

They already have 5 on order which will be converted into a sale and lease back agreement + leasing of 5 additional A330s.



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User currently onlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

The order has now been finalized.

"NEW DELHI : Air India and Jet Airways India Ltd. have agreed to lease 35 Airbus planes from leasing companies, Airbus said. Air India has decided to lease 10 A330 planes and 15 A320s. Meanwhile, Jet Airways will lease 10 A330s."

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-100250.html

Can the moderators please change the thread title to a more relevant one?

[Edited 2010-12-07 20:34:35]


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4489 times:

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 8):
http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-100250.html

Pretty desperate use of English. I wonder how reliable this is.

"Airbus said the 25 planes that Air India plans to eat on lease have a list acquisition cost of USD 3.1 billion." "eat"?!

"The deals are, however, possibly being done directly on the leasing firms and are unlikely to give new firm to Airbus." "done on"? "new firm"?

"A spokeswoman for Mumbai-based Jet Airways India said the airline is planning to lease the 10 A330s to expand its international operations. "We are in talks with numerous leasing firms for your aircraft."" "your"?

"The first two A330s are going to be leased among January and June 2011." "among"?

Anyway, in so far as this article says anything, it confirms that these will come from leasing firms and not Airbus directly. Makes you wonder why Airbus is announcing it...


User currently onlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 9):
Pretty desperate use of English. I wonder how reliable this is.

Not the best written article as you rightfully say, but Reuters seems to have picked up the story as well.
Hopefully its true.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20101206/tbs-airbus-india-02c71ef.html



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 10):
Reuters seems to have picked up the story as well.

Interesting. But why is Airbus announcing a lease deal??  


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4050 times:

I even wonder that 10 A330 are available for lease out there.

User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12462 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3887 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 11):
Interesting. But why is Airbus announcing a lease deal??



They certainly announced the SQ lease deal, even if it was somewhat more complex than a standard lease agreement.



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4745 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3692 times:
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CI just took delivery of a A333 from Guggenheim, a report in Taipeitimes 11/11 says they will take 5 A333s in the next 15 months (presumably includes latest one delivered end Nov) and Guggenheim has 2 more on order so that may be CIs source for at least 3 planes and BR says they will take 3 A333s by end of 2011. Where are all these planes coming from for these Asian carriers with no announced orders from Airbus for the carriers themselves? Do the lessors have that many available for delivery in next year or two??

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

Possibly they are leasing the aircraft through Airbus's own leasing agency?

Quoting PM (Reply 9):
Airbus said the 25 planes that Air India plans to eat on lease have a list acquisition cost of USD 3.1 billion." "eat"?!

Well, it was either that or the vindaloo.

Joking apart, good news for both carriers. Once again, the A330 proves itself to be the natural choice for carriers looking for 250-300 seaters which can be available within a specific timeframe (i.e. less than three years after they were first expected) and can be economic on longer flights or on regional services. That's the 330 ...


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