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Utica NY Picture, Couple Widebodies  
User currently offlineZRB2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 896 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

So can anyone tell me why these two planes are parked at this airport? not aure when this map was shot. There are two more large jets over by the lower right park of the runway.



http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r64...__&where1=Utica%2C%20NY&q=utica%20

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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

I place this about Autumn 2007.

One is, as you've probably gathered, one of the ex-RG and BA 777-200A's. They have the GE90-72Bs and were dogs. BA got rid of all but two of theirs and a few were leased to Varig.

I think this is the one that was broken up for parts because RG treated it like crap and it needed a lot of TLC when it came off (unpaid) lease so they decided to part her out. Was first 777 to go, and very sad it was too. Cant remember if they parted one or two of them out but I know it wasnt pretty. I guess this airport is where it happened.

The one behind is (i think) one of the all-white Air Atlanta Icelandic 742s - engines off and about to be parted out as well.

The two jumbos by the end of the runway are 743s - the white one is ex Air Atlanta again (or could be SAA now that I think about it) and the other is def a QF bird.

[Edited 2010-12-08 10:37:42]

Note also the Virgin America A320 and what looks like a hulk of a Super Connie.


[Edited 2010-12-08 10:40:31]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7843 times:

OT. This ex AFB doesn't look to have much ramp space. This was a B-52 base up until it closed.

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7783 times:

Looks like there is a VX bird there as well, I take it there is some kind of maintenance company there.

User currently offlineKHPN From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7775 times:

While I can sort of understand thethe RG 777 and the 747s being there...
What in the world would a Redwood A320 be doing in RME ?


User currently offlineb727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 521 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7564 times:

Looks like there is a VX bird there as well, I take it there is some kind of maintenance company there??


I know JetBlue sends their planes in and out of Utica for Maintenance.


b727
glenn


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7536 times:

Is the Air Atlanta B747-200 still there?.

What about the B747-300's.


User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

Quoting b727 (Reply 5):
I know JetBlue sends their planes in and out of Utica for Maintenance.

We haven't used the RME (Empire Aero) MRO in quite some time now...we currently use PEMCO in TPA, Aeroman at SAL and EADS at BNA.



"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently onlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7297 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Note also the Virgin America A320 and what looks like a hulk of a Super Connie.

The connie was getting restored:

http://www.aviation-history.com/articles/restore1049.htm



"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2544 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

This isn't even in Utica. It is Rome, NY. Same county but not the same city. UCA was the old county airport a few miles away but it closed a few years ago. It was the original home to Mohawk airlines and then be came a mtc base for US Air after the merger. They closed the hangar there in the late 80's.

The airport in the picture is the old Griffiss AFB. Now Empire Aero uses some of the old airbase facilites as a MRO. The county runs the airport.


User currently offlineTomTurner From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 247 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

Quoting KHPN (Reply 4):
What in the world would a Redwood A320 be doing in RME ?

I believe several were parked there just before virgin america was able to start flights...


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1898 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6621 times:

Thank you Dalmd88! By looking around, a passenger terminal is obviously absent along with a parking lot and access road for a terminal. Even I was looking for some former Mohawk facilities!

User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6599 times:

Quoting ramprat74 (Reply 2):
This was a B-52 base up until it closed.

Griffiss AFB in its better days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCnCXAhPDts&feature=related

Some really good vapor clouds over the wings on the B52s and KC135s, especially at 2:25-3:00. And I shouldn't have to mention the smoke and noise 


User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2544 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6443 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 11):
Even I was looking for some former Mohawk facilities!

zoom out and to the southeast a little. Just south of State Route 49. The old airport is the very visable. The Mohawk hangar is the largest bulding of the complex.


User currently offlineSpunker From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 13):

That was an awesome video!


User currently offlinebdl2stl2pvg From China, joined Jun 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Quoting TomTurner (Reply 10):
I believe several were parked there just before virgin america was able to start flights...



Also, IIRC, before Virgin America started, I think that some of their birds were painted up and flew for Skybus. Skybus had a few of their 319s with nice Y legroom as they were configured with the VA pitch (excepting the F/C area).


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 8):
The Connie was getting restored:

More on the ex-Trans-Canada Air Lines L-1049G restoration here. It's now at the Museum of Flight at BFI.
http://www.rbogash.com/connie.html


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1898 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

B595 & Dalmd88...I do not know what is more depressing. Watching that awesome video that is a thing of the past, or looking south at that photo seeing an airport euthanized!

User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Quoting Spunker (Reply 14):
Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 13):

That was an awesome video!

Awesome video indeed. Now imagine if they could do that at an airport like JFK there will be no delays


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 17):
B595 & Dalmd88...I do not know what is more depressing. Watching that awesome video that is a thing of the past, or looking south at that photo seeing an airport euthanized!

I hear you about the euthanized airports. There are a couple others like the old Oneida County airport that I can think of: Clinton County airport (near the former Plattsburgh AFB) and Marquette County airport (near the former K. I. Sawyer AFB).

But I'm not so sure we've seen the end of hair-trigger nuclear alerts and scrambles... the world's a crazy place. Difference is next time it'll be done with B-2's and 767/A330 tankers.

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 18):
Now imagine if they could do that at an airport like JFK there will be no delays

That would give a whole new meaning to departure slots...


User currently offlineBAC111 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

I'm guessing Clinton County Airport was closed shortly after the former Plattsburgh AFB became the local civilian airport? About when was that?

I was not even aware that Oneida County Airport was closed in favor of the former Griffiss AFB. That would explain why I couldn't find UCA on AirNav.


User currently offlineteneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

The old Mohawk hanger is now used by Orion International a bus maker for assembly of public transport buses. The old terminal is now used by law enforcement as a state preparedness training center. There's some good views of it on google street views.

User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting BAC111 (Reply 20):
I'm guessing Clinton County Airport was closed shortly after the former Plattsburgh AFB became the local civilian airport? About when was that?

Going by wikipedia, general operations at Clinton County were halted June 18, 2007, almost 12 years after the AFB was shutdown (25 Sep. 1995). I thought Clinton County was closed a lot earlier than 2007.

Interestingly, Airnav says it's closed permanently, but looking on maps.google you won't see any 'X's on the runways, and wiki says there are still a few local aircraft based there.

[Edited 2010-12-10 19:52:12]

User currently offlinecitation501sp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Quoting ramprat74 (Reply 2):
OT. This ex AFB doesn't look to have much ramp space.

The Majority of ramp space is/was on the south end of the field.

There are 3 major areas.

The first has a series of large black rectangles. This was the KC-135 Ramp. The black rectangles are tarp covered contaminated soil from one of the many cleanup projects on this base.

The second is the Maintenance Ramp the Five Hangars (Nose dock/ Wing Hangar) and regular parking pens for the B-52.

The Third is covered by the large warehouse at the very south. This was the Alert Apron and could house 7-8 B-52s. Griffiss didn't have a true Christmas Tree.


All in All the Griff had plenty of ramp space, and in a unique idea among all the former SAC Bases, that this arrangement in theory could put all the aircraft in an alert position.

501sp



Smoke and Thunder! Stage 2 FOREVER!!!
User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2544 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

I think the little blue buldings near Selfridge St. were alert sheds for the F-106's that were based there for a long time.

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