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Any News On A388 To ORD?  
User currently offlineBretonRLong From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Hi everyone -

I was just curious if there was any news floating out there about any airlines possibly starting service with the A388 to O'Hare. Any thought's/comments welcomed.

Lufthansa to FRA
Emirates to DXB
Air France to CDG

or maybe a Qantas

[Edited 2010-12-09 18:18:52]

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User currently offlineGlobalCabotage From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 601 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

LH will fly the 388 to ORD someday. BA could possibly as well.

User currently offlineKngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 354 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

The first will almost certainly be LH. Other than that EY or KE is a remote possibility but I'd say unlikely. EK maybe if they ever start ORD service.

I don't really see BA using them at ORD and especially not AF with their current daily A332.

LH and KE are the only 747 operators at ORD that have the A380 (or will).

[Edited 2010-12-09 18:34:13]

User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

There's also the possibility of Korean Air, once their A380s enter service. Right now I believe that Seoul-Chicago nonstop is done by a 747-400 or it may have changed to a 777-300ER now, not sure. But an A380 is more than capable of flying that route nonstop.


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User currently offlineBretonRLong From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

I agree on the LH statement
Does LH have any free A380's at the moment?

I do know that EY fly's to Abu Dhabi from ORD but just surprised no EK service yet into ORD.

User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

LH will be the first, from FRA of course, but MUC could follow at a later stage.

BA may also send a 388 there (AA hub), but that won't come too soon.

AF is very unlikely to do that, but a moderate upgauge from 332 to 343/77E cannot be ruled out. Besides JFK and IAD, I can only see ATL and LAX as AF-388 destinations anytime soon.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21286 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 5):
AF is very unlikely to do that, but a moderate upgauge from 332 to 343/77E cannot be ruled out.

   ORD has always done much better with cargo than with passengers for both AF and KL (that's why it has been a popular 74M destination for KL). The 388 is more of a people-hauler than the current equipment.


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User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

From an article dated September 27, 2010 in the Wall Street Journal Chicago is one of the cities that Korean does plan on sending the A380. online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...48703384204575509284198356948.htm



[Edited 2010-12-09 20:41:57]

[Edited 2010-12-09 20:42:56]


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
User currently offlineBretonRLong From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3638 times:

Great discussion so far. I think everyone pretty much agrees so far that LH will be the first carrier to use the A388.

Another thing I was curious about was didn't ORD have service to South Africa via Dakar once on South African? What happened to this service? Any possibility on return service to African destinations?

Great to see ORD will start Cathay service to Hong Kong in February as well. As well as Iceland Express service.

User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3616 times:

Quoting BretonRLong (Reply 8):
Another thing I was curious about was didn't ORD have service to South Africa via Dakar once on South African? What happened to this service? Any possibility on return service to African destinations?

Service was announced but was never started. SAA decided to not go ahead with the flights.

User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Quoting BretonRLong (Reply 4):
Does LH have any free A380's at the moment?

One of LH's A380 will be used on FRA-JFK effective Feb 15 but only x2 a week according to this post:

http://twitter.com/Lufthansa_USA

User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

Or, LH would send the 748i to ORD.. or would they send the A380 before that?

User currently offlineBretonRLong From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting jreuschl (Reply 11):
Or, LH would send the 748i to ORD.. or would they send the A380 before that?

I would say much more likely to send A388 first.

User currently offlineDUSdude From United States of America, joined May 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 6):
LH will be the first, from FRA of course, but MUC could follow at a later stage.

Unlikely that MUC would follow, given that it doesn't sustain even a single 744 load at this point, while FRA is currently 1 x 744 plus 1 x A346 daily.

User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1677 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Quoting BretonRLong (Thread starter):
Air France to CDG

No way AF will fly the A380 to ORD. The A380 has too much P & J seats for ORD which is a not a stellar performer in AF network

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 5):
AF is very unlikely to do that, but a moderate upgauge from 332 to 343/77E cannot be ruled out.

AF already operates the A343 to ORD during the summer season

User currently offlineGlobalCabotage From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 601 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

388 at ORD, yes, someday.

1st: LH to FRA, only a matter of time
2nd: EK to DXB, only a matter of time
3rd: KE to ICN (unless UA/CO or AA enter)
4th: LH to MUC
5th: BA to LHR, but this is more of a frequency route than size, so probably doubtful.

Would love to see but won't happen, QF on an ORD-DFW-SYD route!

User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Can ORD handle an A380? I haven't seen any work at T5 to handle the upper and lower level boarding simultaneously. Also, LH aircraft arrive at T5, but they depart from T1. Has UA done any work to handle an A380, presumably on Concourse C?

User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2102 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Quoting GlobalCabotage (Reply 15):
4th: LH to MUC

Hopefully this will eventually go to the 748I. Probably our only chance of seeing one here in Chicago.


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User currently offlineORDFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 17):
Hopefully this will eventually go to the 748I. Probably our only chance of seeing one here in Chicago.

Beat me to the punch! I was going to say I would love to see LH continue to indulge us with its full plethora of wide-body offerings. Would really, really love to have LH continue to send 747s to ORD for another few decades.

I think ORD would be a KE 748i contender as well, actually. They mix in 777s already and I think if they had to, they would send the 748s before the A380.

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 16):
Can ORD handle an A380? I haven't seen any work at T5 to handle the upper and lower level boarding simultaneously.

There were plans to convert Gate M17 to an A380-capable gate but I don't know when that will happen or if that plan has changed...


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineBretonRLong From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):
There were plans to convert Gate M17 to an A380-capable gate but I don't know when that will happen or if that plan has changed...

Almost from a picture looks like there would be a lot of wing space to convert M7 to one. Google Maps has a 747 parked in it. Just a thought, I'm pretty new to following O'Hare info.

Actually I just re-looked at the photo and it looks like thats where the baggage handling facility is...so maybe the wings might stick out into that roadway... may not be a good idea i guess.

[Edited 2010-12-12 12:47:49]

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21286 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting GlobalCabotage (Reply 15):
5th: BA to LHR, but this is more of a frequency route than size, so probably doubtful.

How so? It has been a route with a lot of frequency largely because AA and BA could not coordinate schedules - seems like 2 772s departing within 15 minutes of each other are a good candidate to "collapse" into a 388.


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