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EK A380 Stuck At AKL?  
User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 16351 times:
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I notice that yesterdays A380 flight to SYD and DXB has not left AKL . The EK website lists it as:

NOT YET DEPARTED
Flight delayed due operational reasons.
Please contact the Emirates office for further details.


Does anyone know what has happened ? If it is here much longer there may be the opportunity to get a picture of 2 EK A380s in AKL together .

[Edited 2010-12-12 15:02:44]


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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 16363 times:

What's up with all these A380 incidents?


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User currently offlinePA515 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 16256 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
I notice that yesterdays A380 flight to SYD and DXB has not left AKL .

Confirmed by http://www.aucklandairport.co.nz/Fli...nationalArrivalsAndDepartures.aspx

Two A380's EK8413 STD 1100 / ETD 1600 and EK413 STD 1840/ ETD 1840

Rescheduled to 1100 then changed to 1600.

PA515

[Edited 2010-12-12 14:58:06]

User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6430 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 16136 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
If it is here much longer there may be the opportunity to get a picture of 2 EK A380s in AKL together .

Probably won't be a very good shot I might add! The only views would be from airside and the likelihood of the A380 being sent to the remote stand would be high.. So you might get a picture of 2x A380s in AKL but one might be either very small or pretty much blocked from view!



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User currently offlineHaggis73 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2010, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15995 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what has happened ? If it is here much longer there may be the opportunity to get a picture of 2 EK A380s in AKL together .

On push back last night, a warning came up in the cockpit indicating that all the cabin doors had opened.

There should be 2 A380's there today. I've been called back into work to refuel the delayed 380 plus Air Tahiti Nui that went tech yesterday with an engine fault. I'll take the camera in.


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15974 times:
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Quoting Haggis73 (Reply 4):
On push back last night, a warning came up in the cockpit indicating that all the cabin doors had opened.

Thanks for the info    . Hope you manage to get some good shots .



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User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15833 times:

Ouch... 1 AOG in AKL and 1 still AOG in YYZ, thats gotta be pretty tough on the fleet....


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User currently offlinemadviking From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 15350 times:

Quoting RJLover (Reply 6):
Ouch... 1 AOG in AKL and 1 still AOG in YYZ, thats gotta be pretty tough on the fleet....

They'll go to any extent to increase their presence without government approval.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 15236 times:

The A388 is having a very hard time of it indeed. In reality though, it is no worse than most other fleet types, which have tech issues quite often. Being the biggest though doesn't help, as it comes with a very sizable presence.

Lets hope that the mindset does not become poisoned around the world about this plane, in trial by media 


User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 15033 times:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 8):
In reality though, it is no worse than most other fleet types, which have tech issues quite often.

Yes, but it's not like there are thousands of A380's flying around (as there are, say, 737's). Every airplane type has tech issues, but the A380 seems to have them in greater proportion given the relatively few of them that there are.



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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14912 times:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 9):
but the A380 seems to have them in greater proportion given the relatively few of them that there are

Thats only your perception. People do get excited if there are 2 A380's in the one place and they post it on a.net. They don't give a damm if there are 2 747's there as well (or 10 737's)


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14744 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 10):
Thats only your perception. People do get excited if there are 2 A380's in the one place and they post it on a.net. They don't give a damm if there are 2 747's there as well (or 10 737's)

Did you get confused as to the meaning of the statement that was made?  

It had to do with the fact there are less planes of the type in service, meaning that issues are magnified. It had nothing to do with what gets people excited from a planespotters POV.


User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14163 times:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 11):
Did you get confused as to the meaning of the statement that was made?

No i didn't. I have yet to see any facts that support the notion that the A380 is out of service more often (on a unit basis) than other types in their first couple of years since EIS.
It is the fact that the A380 generates more press and internet that gives that perception.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14031 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 12):
No i didn't. I have yet to see any facts that support the notion that the A380 is out of service more often (on a unit basis) than other types in their first couple of years since EIS.
It is the fact that the A380 generates more press and internet that gives that perception.

Of course its perception, but its one that the media seems to drum home all the time.

Its a high profile target unfortunately.


User currently offlinehb88 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 816 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13323 times:

People tend to notice a parked A380 and the novelty value of, for example, a loading truck whacking a wing is enough to be a 'duh' spot in a newspaper on a slow news day.

I'm sure there are some public A380 dispatch reliability data floating around on the internets somewhere.


User currently onlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8134 times:

How does the A380 compare to other aircraft designs that are new? How many issues did the 777 have in the first few years? How many will the 787 have?

User currently offlineglideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Didn't take long for this thread to digress.  


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12468 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5850 times:

Which one is stuck in AKL (registration)?

User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1024 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 3):
Probably won't be a very good shot I might add!

Especially since it is raining cats and dogs in AKL at the moment (and has done so since 5am or so)... 

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineHaggis73 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2010, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 17):
Which one is stuck in AKL (registration)?

It was A6-EDB, departed 1840 last night (13th) EK413. A6-EDO arrived as EK412 & departed as EK8413 (13th 1600) with the delayed PAX on board.


User currently offlinefca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1762 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5164 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):
What's up with all these A380 incidents?

Nothing when you look at these airlines, AF,LH and Most Significanly the full long runner of the A380 and the most in fleet Singapore Airlines.
It's probably more of a new engineering team rather than anything else, or something logistical that the other airlines have got finely tuned. At least for Singapore as they've had them the longest of 3 years

[Edited 2010-12-13 13:01:25]

User currently offlineHaggis73 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2010, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

A6-EDO in the foreground (first time in AKL) with A6-EDB on layover 19


User currently offlineHaggis73 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2010, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

Not the photo shot that I was looking for. A delayed departure of a QANTAS 738 on 15L got in the way of the shot that I wanted.

I'm sure there will be another opportunity at some point with EK407 & SQ286 eventually going A380.


User currently offlinealphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 937 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 3):
Probably won't be a very good shot I might add!

Very nice shot Haggis. Well done.



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6430 posts, RR: 38
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

Quoting alphascan (Reply 23):
Probably won't be a very good shot I might add! Very nice shot Haggis. Well done.

Different story when you have access airside  



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User currently offlinebillreid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Quoting glideslope (Reply 16):
Didn't take long for this thread to digress.

Love it from a financial calculation perspective expect the cost of ferry in one acft and ferry out the other or cancel two full segments to cost EK well over 1.3MM$$.

This is the problem of having such a bib bird go AOG.



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