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Yonited & The Star Allowance?  
User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 15
Posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

OK, I know in this politically-correct day and age, we are supposed to show our worth as humans by tip-toeing and walking on eggshells when it comes to anything that's culturally sensitive. However, when you hear airline employees make announcements and say such things as 'Yonited Airlines' or the 'Star Allowance', is it wrong to have something well up inside of you and say "that isn't right" ? Would the employees' supervisors be in the right to take corrective action? Or does it simply make for a more diverse and progressive organization by having things improperly named at the whim of their employees?


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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

What are you talking about?

If you are saying that someone at United made fun of the airline and STAR just to be an Ahole IM me the info about this person and where/when it happened and Ill make sure it doesn't happen again.

I'm confused though....?



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User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 1):
f you are saying that someone at United made fun of the airline and STAR just to be an Ahole IM me the info about this person and where/when it happened and Ill make sure it doesn't happen again.

I'm not sure that was even the case, I think it was just the way they spoke. So, I guess maybe it's a thing where the person should not be in a position of making announcements over the PA? I don't know.



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User currently offlinedl767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

So did they say it with an accent or mispronounce it? I've been on flights to ATL where I swear I was listening to ebonics for about 5 minutes. With and Wiff and Ask and Axe are not the same words....

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

an "accent" is something that mostly shares the same words, only pronounced differently (differences in intonation or emphasizes, e.g. British English)

but when you're spelling and pronouncing the words completely differently with their own set of grammar rules, that's more a dialect. (e.g. "He be workin' Tuesdays.") Ebonics is more a dialect than an accent.

people are free to use any accent/dialect as they please, but i find it problematic if we're forced to use tax payer funds to use non-official accents/dialects as the primary instruction language in public schools.

if public funds are used to teach poor grammar (unless poor grammar is official in that nation), then the education system has failed.


User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2533 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 4):
but when you're spelling and pronouncing the words completely differently with their own set of grammar rules, that's more a dialect. (e.g. "He be workin' Tuesdays.") Ebonics is more a dialect than an accent.

people are free to use any accent/dialect as they please, but i find it problematic if we're forced to use tax payer funds to use non-official accents/dialects as the primary instruction language in public schools.

if public funds are used to teach poor grammar (unless poor grammar is official in that nation), then the education system has failed.

  
So at the company level, would they be within their right to correct a dialect that is misrepresenting the company? Or would it be best to allow this seemingly destructive habit in the interest in the advancement of political correctness and corporate diversity?



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User currently onlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1487 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

Lighten up Francis. I've heard eh-merry-can, you a$$ err and del-duh plenty of times. If you were able to understand what the person was say, isn't that mission accomplished? I am that folks that speak impeccably also have faults too. Bernie Madoff was well spoken as I recall and he was a real paragon of virtue.

User currently onlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1487 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Dreaded auto correct in previous post. Let me know if it was unintelligible.

User currently offlinegoldenstate From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 583 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
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Quoting jmc1975 (Thread starter):
OK, I know in this politically-correct day and age, we are supposed to show our worth as humans by tip-toeing and walking on eggshells when it comes to anything that's culturally sensitive.

This may come as a shock to you but the U.S. and Western Europe are not culturally or ethnically homogenous societies anymore. Not everyone speaks English as their first language. So what you call "walking on eggshells," most normal people think of as being understanding of that reality and recognizing that it's okay to speak with an accent, and as long as you can understand what the person is saying, it's fine.

Quoting mcdu (Reply 6):
Lighten up Francis.

Just keep your meathooks off.  


User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 5):

So at the company level, would they be within their right to correct a dialect that is misrepresenting the company? Or would it be best to allow this seemingly destructive habit in the interest in the advancement of political correctness and corporate diversity?

that's entirely up to each company, which is a private enterprise. Poor grammar lands you nowhere in the corporate world - no one would publicly object it, but your reputation would definitely take a silent hit.

the rule of thumb is - if your "accent" or "dialect" causes confusion and miscommunication with customers, that has to change, regardless of your background. And if you're directly customer-facing and pronounces the company name in the way that severely distorts the corporate branding, that definitely has to change.

Take pre-take-off safety info : Just because you read an announcement doesn't mean you've done with your job if most of the passengers can't understand you and don't know how to comply with the safety procedures.


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