davs5032 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19193 times:
That's a big capacity jump but I'm sure they need it on many routes, not surprising that it will fly out of LGA. This announcement is not really unexpected, but it's nice to have an official delivery date to look forward to now.
747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1194 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19173 times:
Considering WN's entry into larger and more congested markets such as LGA, BOS, EWR, etc. this decision is certainly warranted and doesn't surprise me.
It does take a little bit of simplicity out of their fleet with a subfleet of aircraft that will require a 4th flight attendant and likely a somewhat longer turn time, but definitely not anything drastic.
JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5480 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18969 times:
I really do think that this will be a trend for the 6 abreast narrow bodies. I just don't think that the under 150 seaters are as appealing to operators with fuel prices heading north. More of the current narrow bodies on order will be switched to 150+ models and I don't think the NEO will change that.
This may, (I say again, may), open the door for the CSeries, larger E-Jets, (and eventually Chinese and Russian offerings), to get some breathing room to play on ground that isn't quite as profitable for the big boys as it used to be.
bkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18310 times:
This really isnt surprising to me. It is quite cool tho. It will be interesting to see how many SWA will buy, a trademark of SWA is buying in bulk. SO it will be interesting to see how many are bought.
chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2201 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18004 times:
Quoting dl767captain (Reply 11): What I did mean though is 2 different capacities in the end basically the -3/5/7 size and the -800
They have 3 different capacities. The -300 and -700 seat 137. The -500 seats 122 and the -800 will seat 170 something.
Quoting bkircher (Reply 13): Remember, they had ATA and their -800s to look at in the MDW-LGA operation while they were code-sharing, as well as ATA's Hawaii operations.
If I recall, when WN bought ATA's operating certificate they not only got the LGA slots, but they also got all of ATA's route info, ETOPS data and other goodies. They've had this info for a while, I'm sure.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23423 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17631 times:
Quoting chrisair (Reply 15): If I recall, when WN bought ATA's operating certificate they not only got the LGA slots, but they also got all of ATA's route info, ETOPS data and other goodies. They've had this info for a while, I'm sure.
When did WN buy TZ's certificate?
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17421 times:
Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 5): They still have a bunch of -700's on order so they are just switching over to the -800 using some of the same slots.
They were clearly conversions because typically there is a 12 month lead time for notification of spec changes to avoid gumming up the production line. Declaring now allows planes slated for delivery during late December 2010 (which are probably considered January deliveries from a contract point-of-view) to meet the spec deadline.
No surprise these are going to LGA and DCA too I bet.
bayareablue From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17288 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 10): With WN's job listing for an ETOPS Manager, these aircraft are probably going to inaugurate service to Hawaii.
Hawaii probably is in the plans but not right away. You have to understand how developing an ETOPS program works. Yes, they can hire an ETOPS manager to go through and define the ETOPS process. But after they have a definition of what they are proposing to the FAA, they will have to prove it with proving flights which could take some time. Look at AS, when they announced ETOPS flying, they had been working for some time to develop a program and then months before the first flight you saw many proving flights. As someone posted in another thread, I see WN entering it's first ETOPS route in Q3 or Q4 2012.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4077 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 15393 times:
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The 800 seems to be the most popular variant of the 737.
Quoting WestWing (Reply 7): I submit the observation that you probably do know that -500,-300,-700 already make three.
300 and 500 I would consider those as one type, they are both Classic 737s and have only one over wing exit.
So it is not wrong to consider the 300, 500 and 700 as two types. Don't know how much longer the classics will stay.