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AirAsia Launches Philippine Subsidiary  
User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

AirAsia today officially announced plans to launch a Philippine based affiliate
http://abs-cbnnews.com/business/12/1...t-venture-starts-operations-august


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User currently offlineaviationweek From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Where do you think it will operate from? Clark or Subic's former Manila base?

By the way, you can read Av Week's version of the story here


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Thanks for posting.

Hmm, it's getting very crowded on the LCC scene to/within the Philippines - although this is still good news in the sense that the only foreign LCC to operate there at present is jetStar. What with Cebu Pacific, Airphil Express, Zest Airways, and Southeast Asian Airlines, one has to wonder where this will all end up.

Hopefully, the new AirAsia venture will operate out of Manila, as opposed to Clark. CRK is so over-hyped, especially given that it is a good two hours from Manila proper, traffic conditions permitting. Zest's foray CRK-HKG certainly didn't last long.

On the other hand, it was great to see Airphil Express start their int'l service Cebu-Singapore this month because although Cebu Pacific and SilkAir already fly the route, Cebu Pacific's flights are graveyard hours, and SilkAir's are full-service/full-fare. So in that sense, the entry of AirPhil to that route added something that wasn't there before because it is a daytime budget service. CEB-HKG could use a similar entry to complement the current providers Cebu Pacific and Cathay Pacific on that route.

In any event, best of luck to AirAsia Philippines!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 2):
Cebu Pacific's flights are graveyard hours

That's a tad simplistic: per randomly selected dates (16th Feb out, 18th Feb back), Cebu Pacific has the following flights from Manila to Singapore and back. Clearly, most are not "graveyard hours".

Manila-Singapore:

0625-0950
1010-1335
1330-1655
2030-2355

Singapore-Manila:

0040-0405
1035-1400
1420-1755
1740-2100



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User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 970 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

Not directly related to AirAsia Philippines, but thought it would be worth mentioning that AirAsia Indonesia is launching flights from Jakarta (CGK) to Manila in September.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...asia-launch-jakarta-manila-flights

It's not clear from the article whether the new route will go to NAIA or Clark.I suppose it would make the most sense to serve an airport where AirAsia is already present. AirAsia (Malaysia) is already serving Clark from Kuala Lumpur (KUL) and Kota Kinabalu (BKI).

If AirAsia Indonesia will launch flight to NAIA and the new AirAsia Philippines will be based out of Subic, they would end up in a situation where they use 3 different airports around Manila. Wouldn't it make the most sense to use the same airport ie Clark?

EBGflyer



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 4):
Not directly related to AirAsia Philippines, but thought it would be worth mentioning that AirAsia Indonesia is launching flights from Jakarta (CGK) to Manila in September.

That article is 1.5 years old yet still no flight.

Hope they choose Clark, if not, then Subic.



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User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 970 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 5):
That article is 1.5 years old yet still no flight.

haha, I should have spotted that. My bad! I guess Cebu Pacific will be alone on this route a little while longer.



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Well, Cebu Pacific has already reached a quasi monopole position in the Philippines.
They will certainly have a very close look at Air Asia´s activities since this is the first time they will face a competitor with sufficient funds to withstand attacks from C.P.
Despite the initial small operation of AAP Cebu Pacific will have to stop treating it´s customers Ryanair-like !
C.P. can do this only as long as they have a quasi monopole on their routes ...
I don´t think AAP will go into a price war but initially avoid going head-on with 5J unless there´s enough "space" for both of them.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
That's a tad simplistic: per randomly selected dates (16th Feb out, 18th Feb back), Cebu Pacific has the following flights from Manila to Singapore and back. Clearly, most are not "graveyard hours".

... talks were about Cebu-Singapore flights - not Manila-Singapore !
Actallly 5J likes to cancel their CEB-SIN/HKG non-stops for whatever reason they consider "sufficient" (ops/low loads/etc.). Had to experience it myself and was rerouted via MNL ...
So, 5J´s international flights ex CEB have two downsides: unreliable and horrible dep./arr. times
Next time i´ll give Airphilexpress a try !

Regarding AAP´s proposed base i´m a bit sceptic for Subic since it´s even less accessible from Manila than Clark. But maybe Subic´s airport makes an "irresistible offer" (package deal including upgrading the road connection towards Manila in relatively short time - o.k. let me dream a bit   )

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 2):
Hmm, it's getting very crowded on the LCC scene to/within the Philippines - although this is still good news in the sense that the only foreign LCC to operate there at present is jetStar. What with Cebu Pacific, Airphil Express, Zest Airways, and Southeast Asian Airlines, one has to wonder where this will all end up.

Since when is SEAIR a LCC ??? I´m aware they just teamed up with Tiger Airways and got two A320 wet-leased for initial CRK-SIN flights but i think it has to be seen how they fare. I´m very sceptic this venture will last very long - especially when AAP is up and plying the bread and butter routes ...
The rest (= majority) of SEAIR´s ops is "strictly not LCC" anyways !



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User currently offlineptrjms From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2742 times:

Could see it coming for sure, I wonder if they will ever do a Vietnam or Cambodia airasia?? Will be very interesting to see this company in 10 years time and where they are at.
best of luck to them  


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Quoting MHG (Reply 7):
... talks were about Cebu-Singapore flights - not Manila-Singapore !
Actallly 5J likes to cancel their CEB-SIN/HKG non-stops for whatever reason they consider "sufficient" (ops/low loads/etc.). Had to experience it myself and was rerouted via MNL ...
So, 5J´s international flights ex CEB have two downsides: unreliable and horrible dep./arr. times
Next time i´ll give Airphilexpress a try !

Let us know how it works out; I'll be right behind you!
 
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 6):
Since when is SEAIR a LCC ??? I´m aware they just teamed up with Tiger Airways and got two A320 wet-leased for initial CRK-SIN flights but i think it has to be seen how they fare. I´m very sceptic this venture will last very long - especially when AAP is up and plying the bread and butter routes ...
The rest (= majority) of SEAIR´s ops is "strictly not LCC" anyways !

Ok, if you say so. And I will try and book a seat with them in business class next time.  


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 970 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 9):
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 6):
Since when is SEAIR a LCC ??

You quoted me for something I didn't write!!!



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