Erikr From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 110 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
According to the Delta April timetable, Delta flies a potentially large number of people from Atlanta to Florida each day. For example, flights to Fort Lauderdale included 5 L-1011s and 4 767s each day. To Orlando, 2 L-1011s, 2 MD-11s, and 4 767s, and 4 777s each day.
Why all the large wide bodies? Is there really much of a demand?
Mlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1445 times:
Trunk-hub simplicity. The demand probably exists as Delta's somewhat large presence in Orlando is complemented by their hub in ATL for existential time-sensible connections to the rest of the DL route network.
Sounds strange, but NW does the same thing in MKE with 4 daily DC-10-40 flights (N132JC here today!) back and forth between MKE and MSP....that's in addition to their -9 flights, 727 flights and A320 flights...occasionally the 6AM is not a -9 but a 757. MKE has the unique pleasure of hosting every NW aircraft type, save the DC9-10 and the 747...though it occasionally (once every 3 months) will show in the form of a 744 operating as flight 83. Flight 83 originates in MKE and continues on to NRT with a gauge change, but once in a great (and blessed) while, the 744 begins in MKE and ends in NRT after the stop in MSP.
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Flying lsd From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1405 times:
Florida is just one of the world popular tourist state with a lot of sunshine and beaches all year long.
Orlando with 100.000 rooms hotels is very attractive with Walt Disney World and others theme parks.
DL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2102 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1391 times:
Yes, the demand is there. FLL and MIA are some of the hardest flights to nonrev on because the flights are always full especially on Sun/Mon/Thu/Fri and sometimes on Sat. Just to South Florida's (Greater Miami) airports MIA, FLL, and PBI, DL has 30 daily nonstops to ATL, 22 of which are wide body flights. Now that's a lot of lift!
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19368 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1357 times:
Don't forget ATL is very conveniently located close to FL. If this wasn't so, then DL wouldn't be so effective in the FL market. Remember, the marketing mix's four P's: Price, Product, Place, Promotion.
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Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1261 times:
From YYZ-ATL expect an MD-88 with meal service offered in both directions, usually a hot meal during B-fast and Dinner hours. Expect the 767-400 on the leg to FLL. Just a beverage service on that flight as it id only 1 hr or so in duration.
Chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
Not only the fact that it keeps the planes airborne making $$, but it also builds crew time up. The 777 and 764 crews usually fly a bunch of those trips to build expirience, time, landings etc...The demand does have a big part as well, but mainly keeping planes up in the air, and crew time.
Really no different than UA sending 747s on domestic service, as well as 777 domestic service, both of which are still happening (I think?)
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33663 posts, RR: 71
Reply 19, posted (13 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1211 times:
Chrisair, yes, UA still uses 772s on a lot of domestic hub routes (SFO-DEN, LAX-DEN, IAD-SFO, ORD-DEN, ORD-SFO, ORD-LAX, MIA-DEN, MIA-LAX, MIA-ORD), although they have domestic-configured 772s for high-capacity routes (MIA-DEN and MIA-LAX use domestic 772s), unlike other airlines.