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Heavy Snow Forecast SE England Tonight.  
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3232 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 21502 times:

A quick heads up, heavy snow is forecast for the SE England, Include LHR and LGW.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10209

As you run the map forward the time line has it arriving at 03:00 and then most the the day, as usual Gatwick looks to be the main target.
Keep safe and warm.  


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User currently offlineSpeedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 916 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 21400 times:

Well its started snowing here 3 miles west from LHR about 1pm for a good 2 hours and has settled already.
All BA Shorthaul flights from 7pm have been cancelled which includes me.
Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow  



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User currently offlinedowntown273 From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 21327 times:

Not England, but all flights have been cancelled all day long in BFS and BHD.

User currently offlineblooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 21157 times:

Not looking good at LGW!

Quote:
Current conditions at London / Gatwick Airport, United Kingdom (EGKK) 51-09N 000-11W 0M (EGKK)
Last updated Dec 17, 2010 - 01:50 PM EST / 2010.12.17 1850 UTC
Temperature: 14 F (-10 C)
Relative Humidity: 92%
Wind: from the SSW (210 degrees) at 3 MPH (3 KT)


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 21080 times:
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These are the TAFs for the London area:

LHR at 1659: 1718/1824 29010KT 9999 FEW040 BECMG 1718/1721 VRB05KT PROB30 1721/1806 6000 TEMPO 1806/1810 4000 -SHSN BKN008 BECMG 1810/1813 06012KT 4000 -SN BKN008 TEMPO 1811/1819 1200 SN BKN004 PROB30 TEMPO 1812/1818 0300 +SN VV/// PROB30 1819/1824 VRB04KT BKN003=


LGW at 1659: 1718/1824 VRB03KT CAVOK PROB30 1720/1803 3000 BR TEMPO 1803/1806 2000 SHSN BKN008 SCT015CB BECMG 1806/1809 03012KT 4000 -SHSN BKN006 TEMPO 1809/1821 1000 SN BKN002 PROB40 TEMPO 1810/1819 0200 +SN VV/// BECMG 1821/1824 VRB03KT BKN002=

LTN at 1657: 171657Z 1718/1818 27007KT 9999 FEW040 PROB30 1721/1805 0200 FZFG OVC001 PROB30 TEMPO 1805/1812 3000 SHSN BKN004 TEMPO 1812/1818 1200 SHSN BKN004=

STN at 1657: 1718/1824 27007KT 9999 FEW040 PROB30 1721/1806 2000 BR BKN004 PROB30 TEMPO 1806/1812 3000 SHSN BKN008 TEMPO 1812/1820 1200 SHSN BKN008=


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User currently offlinegc2 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 20594 times:

That's alright we'll take 'em all at STN like we did yesterday, bring 'em on! 

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 20430 times:
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BA have cancelled all their operations at LHR between 1000 to 1700 whilst they will operate only long-haul from LGW from 1000 to 1700

[Edited 2010-12-18 00:21:18]

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26954 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 20362 times:

BHD still closed was a very cold night here last night -10c . The next update will be at Midday but it doesnt look good. Getting to the airport from around the province is very hard also.

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5197 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 20343 times:

Does anyone know if eurostar is operating still?

User currently offline747438 From UK - England, joined Jan 2007, 838 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20139 times:

It's rather heavy and settling at home now, which is not far from the 27L threshold. Not looking good

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20077 times:

Roads were clear about 5 minutes ago, and as with 747438, im not that far from 27L. Its coming down thick and heavy (or was a minute ago) I foresee LHR having to maybe shut later if it continues like this.

User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4121 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20021 times:

Was -12 degrees when I left my house near Gatwick at 3am this morning, and now there's so much snow that I can't get home. Interestingly, the airport seems to have remained open, despite easyJet and BA's standard blanket cancellations.

User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4121 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 20009 times:

I guess I spoke too soon:

"Weather and travel update - 10.10

Gatwick's runway is currently closed due to heavy snow with no departing or arriving flights. We are expecting significant snowfall for much of today (Saturday 18 December)."


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19988 times:

Quoting planesarecool (Reply 12):
Gatwick's runway is currently closed due to heavy snow with no departing or arriving flights. We are expecting significant snowfall for much of today (Saturday 18 December)."

Was about to say. My mate is meant to be flying as crew on a VS flight to BGI and he is stuck with the closed runway at the moment.


User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19946 times:

According to Sky News Gatwick has closed its runway until 3pm

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...Hit_Britain_Throughout_The_Weekend

If you look at the video you can see how heavy the snow is!



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19838 times:

I would say we have had about 3 or 4 cm in the past hour and if anything its getting heavier here.

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19817 times:

I think LHR may be closed. There is no Engine noise outside at all, and the planefinder app shows everything holding.

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19808 times:
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Flightradar24 showing a flow of inbouds to LHR. BHX is closed, MAN is as well.

User currently offlineU2380 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19710 times:

BA have further cancelled operations at LHR between 10am and 5pm according to Sky news and a AFP report.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...e-Weekend/Article/201012315858408?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...bf8b8a556a4326e7339cba65f297e00.21

[Edited 2010-12-18 03:55:15]

EDIT- According to BBC news, all terminals but T5 are operational and both the runways are cleared.


[Edited 2010-12-18 04:10:13]

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19668 times:
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MAN open again. BHX closed till 1300. EK15 has diverted to GLA instead of going to LGW (was on BHX arrivals)

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19555 times:

EGLL 181150Z 08009KT 0400 R09L/0500 R09R/0550 +SN VV/// M00/M01 Q0989 SNOCLO

Flyingfox posted this in another thread.


User currently offlineSpeedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 916 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19503 times:

GOOD GRIEF!! I have just woken up and made the mistake of opening my curtains....
As I said previously, I live 3 miles West from LHR.... Oh My Goodness...

Good Luck LHR. I'm not going near a Terminal Building today...



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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19467 times:
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Few coming into MAN . NCL has bagged 4 BA. SNN and DUB getting some diversions.

User currently offlinetayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19467 times:

...parents just boarded QF29 to LHR, wonder if they'll get there (sched midday sunday GMT) or get held up in HKG.

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19444 times:

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 21):
Good Luck LHR. I'm not going near a Terminal Building today...

You know you want to  
Quoting tayser (Reply 23):
...parents just boarded QF29 to LHR, wonder if they'll get there (sched midday sunday GMT) or get held up in HKG.

Depends what happens in the next couple of hours really. We got a good 3 or 4 inches in about 3 hours right next to the airport and more is expected later.


25 leeds19 : Looks Like Newcastle is about to get EK39 Div from BHX a B77W.
26 lhr380 : LHR just sent out a twitter message saying both runways closed until at least 1600
27 psimpson : LHR inbounds diverted to Paris CDG on airnav radarbox ACA858 B763 C-FMWQ, ACA854 A333 C-GFAJ, AAL78 B763 N377AN, DAH2054 A332 7T-VJW & MSR777 A333
28 Post contains links and images tayser : www.melair.com status for QF29 just blanked out... expecting the call anytime now
29 Post contains images lhr380 : You wont be getting any call, flight left at 0013
30 lhr380 : Heathrow have just send this message out on their twitter site
31 Speedbirdie : Ooo, The sun has just come out at here! Is it going to get better? Edit... As I wrote that, I got a message from BA saying the Entire Shorthaul progra
32 Post contains images sergy2k : Surely it's time to divert in this case? Both Aeroflot flights are still holding whilst everyone else has diverted?
33 Speedbirdie : I have also been watching these 2 planes for an hour or so now...
34 CO 757-300 : i was supposed to fly to ARN last night on BA. flight was cancelled before the snow even began. i guess they didn't even want to bother sending planes
35 theginge : Eurocontrol are advising the following on the CFMU pages: CRITICAL SITUATION IN EGLL AOs ARE RECOMMENDED NOT TO PLAN TO GO TO EGLL FOR THE REMAINDER O
36 lhr380 : Looks like there is a VS 340 stuck on one of the taxiways between T5C and T3!!!! Live footage from BBC News.................... Snow all around it, st
37 alasdair1982 : The BBC News helicopter is showing a VS A346 stuck on the taxi way for 27L, god help those poor punters onboard if there are any! EDIT: A passenger on
38 Speedbirdie : Plane Finder app says its G-VOGE from Miami.... Nasty! Looks like they are in good spirits!!
39 RP TPA : All of those London passengers who were dreaming of a white Christmas must be cursing right now.
40 lhr380 : They sure do look like it, waving out of the windows!
41 avion660 : Amazing! The crew waving to the news helicopter, windows open!. Great shots from the chopper
42 Post contains links and images lhr380 : From BBC News (Taken on Iphone) Im sure there is meant to be a runway there![Edited 2010-12-18 06:16:34]
43 RP TPA : 3 Air Canada inbounds from yesterday diverted to CDG.....AC858 from YYZ, AC850 from YYC, and AC854 from YVR.
44 Speedbird555 : Looks like AFL 239 is finally heading elsewhere! AMS?
45 Post contains images U2380 : Great Shots from the BBC News Helicopter, hard to tell the difference between the taxiways and runways. Interesting to see all the aircraft on the apr
46 lhr380 : It is shocking to see. Nice to see the BA 777 (MMS) getting de-iced and slowly going greener and greener.
47 EI320 : Fantastic shots there LHR380, thanks for posting. You could be forgiven for thinking that an airport doesn't even exist in the third shot!
48 Aeolus : Hey, where can you get aviation weather (METAR, TAF, GFA...) in the UK and Europe? Looking calm here in the SW of England. Not very bad at least (1400
49 Post contains links david_itl : Try here remember it's EGLL for LHR, EGKK for LGW, EGSS for STN, EGGW for LTN, EGBB for BHX, EGNX for EMA,EGCC for MAN.
50 sergy2k : Nope…just changed places! Seriously, how much fuel would he have on board? They've been holding for nearly 3 hours I think.
51 U2380 : Oh yes definitely. I can only imagine the disruption for everyone invloved on one of the busiest weekends of the year for UK Air travel.
52 B747forever : Gosh! How much fuel can the A320 hold? If it has been holding for 3 hours it has spent over 7 hours in the air (4hour flight time from Moscow). I fee
53 theginge : Think max for an A320 is about 20 tonnes so can stay in the air for over 7 hours if it has to.
54 Barnesy2006 : AFL239 Still holding!! Surely it would be best to divert into Europe at this point.
55 B747forever : But seriously, 7hours! They have been holding for so long that they could have made it back to Moscow if they wanted to.
56 Speedbird555 : Or LGW as runway there just re-opened.
57 lhr380 : From LHR Twitter Site From BA Twitter Site
58 B747forever : There are a few BA birds in a pattern over Holland probably waiting until 4pm.
59 Barnesy2006 : That would be a good option but it has just entered the hold again.
60 EHAM : NOTAM EHAM EHAM NOT AVBL AS COMMERCIAL ALTN. ONLY FOR EMERGENCIES INCLUDINGMEDICAL ON 30 MIN PRIOR NOTICE. 18 DEC 14:06 2010 UNTIL 19 DEC 12:00 2010.
61 irobertson : I'm sorry, this is ankle deep snow. Why is it that Heathrow does not have snow removal vehicles and procedures in place? This amount of snow is neglig
62 B747forever : AFL 239 is heading for Belgium. Have they given up?[Edited 2010-12-18 07:39:00]
63 Speedbird555 : Looks like they've given up at last! Can imagine the pax on board aren't too happy right now!
64 Post contains images keegd76 : Both BHD and BFS are open and operating but the snow is still falling so that probably won't last long. Then the problem is either the airport you ar
65 lhr380 : Irobertson, you have made the a comment that annoys a lot of people. Your have compared Canada, a country that is used to snow, and a lot of it to th
66 vfw614 : Was booked on CGN-LHR today. After cancellations of 2 of the 3 flights on the route yesterday and a massive delay of the third decided not to go this
67 richcandy : Correct but London does not often get much snow, some times more than a year goes past without any snow. As a result the airport operator does not th
68 Flying Belgian : Malaysia 4 from KUL is in a holding pattern over the Belgian Coast.
69 Post contains images olle : I was stucked into a TAM airplane in Frankfurt last week night between 8 and 9 of december. They did not let us of the airplane for 8 hours and then w
70 U2380 : It's the same across the UK in all areas not just aviation. It's not seen necessary to invest large amounts of money in something that only ever happ
71 Post contains images btblue : My mate has been sat on the Qantas A380 (destinaton Singapore) since 10.45 this morning...crew are now about to run out of hours apparently but hoping
72 Flyingfox27 : The Aeroflot flight which held for so long has now landed in Brussels.
73 Post contains links Auchmithie : http://www.thebasource.com reporting: BA675 from Istanbul operated by A320 G-EUUV diverted to Newcastle. BA154 from Cairo operated by Boeing 747-400 G
74 lhr380 : I see there not being much of a long haul sched tomorrow. Hopefully there will be a decent shorthaul though as nearly all flights were cancelled
75 Post contains links VV701 : You answered your own question: Heathrow simply does not get snow "multiple times a year". Indeed if you read the history of British winters at: http
76 irobertson : Well it's all good to live in the past, but how many days has Gatwick and Heathrow had to close this year alone and it's only December? How about last
77 SonomaFlyer : The time it would take to get the necessary equipment and training for LHR and LGW would be at least a year if not more. Before they even think about
78 alasdair1982 : UAE15 appeared to have initially been diverted to GLA, turned back above Hamilton outside Glasgow, circled for a bit over the Solway Firth and Cumbria
79 CaptainMeeerkat : I think irobertson is right, this 'cold snap' has come now two years in a row. Here, in Ireland, it is the same story. We are totally unprepared for
80 gkirk : Just wish it was still daylight, would have been a sight to see over the Solway...
81 Post contains links Auchmithie : Add from www.thebasource.com: BA242 from Mexico City operated by Boeing 747-400 G-CIVD diverted to Shannon. BA288 from Pheonix operated by Boeing 747-
82 lofty : Great diverts to GLA and EDI which not that many days a go where closed due snow.
83 lhr380 : LHR runways still closed. Northern runway is to open at some point according to LHR twitter site
84 U2380 : Two Years of (more regular) snow really isn't a long enough period of time to determine whether or not we have a slight change in our climate, provid
85 lofty : BA have learnt from the past since the last spell, Rigs, Ramp staff trained to use the rigs, remote de-icing pans (Jedi South) with a 2nd for Small ai
86 alasdair1982 : The BA 747, 767 and 777 may be stuck at GLA tonight and tomorrow judging by the BBC forecast! I wonder what the photo opportunites are like...
87 CaptainMeeerkat : Heathrow airport is a hub, one of the largest in the world. Whether it comes once every six months, or once every six years is irrelevant. London is
88 Slinky09 : If, as LHR did today, you get upto 20 cm of snow falling in four hours over hundreds of acres of tarmac then it's going to close. It's simple, that s
89 Post contains links alasdair1982 : Passenger account of the VS flight that stopped on the taxi way at LHR. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12027554
90 longhauler : Wouldn't that be great? Then the horrors of the last month would be a non-issue. But in reality, if you make the investment ... use it or not, does i
91 dxing : That's just ridiculous, there's not even a plow truck out in front of the airplane trying to clear the snow. It's not like you have to buy a truck wi
92 lhr380 : You have to justify the cost. This would raise fees at the airport as they would need the investment to purchase this all.
93 Post contains images readytotaxi : Courtsey of Flightradar24.com Saturday evening 18:25 over SE England, almost like the Iceland Volcano days.
94 Post contains images readytotaxi : Looks like the FedEx will land at STN after how many holding loops?
95 sw733 : My colleague is on this plane...she phoned me to say they have been told to expect a looonnnnggg stay in Newcastle!
96 CO 757-300 : my friend has been sitting on VS7 all day, texting me... but they have now canceled it and are unloading the aircraft. i feel really sorry for all the
97 gkirk : This has now left Newcastle and is Now over Leeds on it's way to LHR...
98 gkirk : Looks like the BA675 may now be heading into Leeds/Bradford?!?[Edited 2010-12-18 11:14:01]
99 Post contains images readytotaxi : Finally a take off from Gatwick.
100 lhr380 : From LHR Twitter
101 Speedbird555 : Wow...BAA guy appreaing on BBC saying that LHR closed for night! Nothing in/out until tomorrow at the earliest.
102 longhauler : The cost of doing business, I guess. I talk with passengers all the time, and I am amazed how they tend to avoid LHR due to the high fees already. Th
103 alasdair1982 : Shannon have just informed BA178 that the only UK airport available is Belfast. So can anyone provide a rundown of where airlines other than BA ended
104 LX138 : You know its not as easy as that. The airstrips need spraying with anti-icer, there are challenges with staffing, and resources are assigned to parts
105 MasterBean : Kemble Airfield is closed with 6 whole inches of snow. Finally it has snowed in the West Country/Cotswolds so yipee for that. There's a good 4.5 inche
106 Post contains images readytotaxi : Will the BA call centre close at 20:00 as usual. Web site says VERY HIGH call levels resulting in long delays. Bet those poor staff could use a break
107 Post contains links readytotaxi : http://www.heathrowairport.com/# That's it folks, LHR has left the building!
108 oly720man : I suppose there are worse places to be if you get diverted, but surely that wasn't the primary diversion airfield for a flight from Canada???
109 CO 757-300 : i'm sorry but this is an absolute embarrassment. it's almost comical.
110 FlyLondon : It is a sad state of affairs, unfortunatly a result of our national culture, summed up by those serving up predictable excuses for amateurism. Sadly w
111 Post contains images readytotaxi : Maybe the last one in. Maybe they wished they had stayed in Male.
112 sw733 : Yeah it looks like it has now gone into Leeds...how odd that it would leave Newcastle just to shoot down to Leeds and spend the night there.
113 padster : Maybe LBA is a better bet to spend the night with more snow due for NCL, also maybe they were running out of gate space for Heavies ...
114 Post contains links Danny : Good to see that some people in UK still have a sober view on this. LHR is one of the most important international hubs and should be prepared for sn
115 onlysmarties : Hi would anyone be able to tell me were vs018 from newerk has diverted 2 only as wanna know were my brothers ended up now was due in at 20:00 cheers
116 oa260 : Very true and BAA have given out letters to passengers telling them they are going to close the Terminals tonight and throw people out into the cold!
117 Post contains images readytotaxi : 100&10 % agree with that.
118 AwyrCymru : Was watching VS018 on flightradar24.com and was over Amsterdam at 37000ft when I last checked and started its decent soon after - so I guess its land
119 LN-KGL : At least one of the British airports seems to have learned a lesson from last Winter's snow, and it is Manchester Airport. They have revised their sn
120 readytotaxi : The BAA are going to force people out of the building? Someone cal the PM. Hope the Media capture this one tonight.
121 padster : Landed at Hannover at 21.35 ..
122 tommy212 : Air Asia X D72008 just diverted into BHX and for those interessted its 9M-XAC the Oakland Raiders livery
123 U2380 : I don't think it's a representation of the British society at all, it's just a difference in opinion on how money is spent. However, it's not accepta
124 LX138 : There must be a valid reason for closing the terminals? Otherwise it would be madness. What would Cheryl Cole think!?
125 onlysmarties : Thanks for vs18 info guys yeah hannover
126 Post contains images RP TPA : At least this happened during the slow season, where not many passengers were affected.
127 Post contains images leezyjet : BAA have spent over £3 million on new equipment to clear snow, which is quite a sizeable investment. Unfortunately all of you saying it's just snow,
128 padster : So in the great British tradition ... "ladies and gentlemen ... we have the wrong type of snow on the runway ! "
129 Post contains images PlaneWasted : We in the colder countries also have this kind of snow in the beginning and the end of the winter when the temperatures are higher. So no excuse.
130 btblue : My mate Is bedding down in heathrow for the night, on the floor likely as no hotels with availability. Finally disembarked QF32 around 6.30pm - almost
131 LipeGIG : I'm at DFW at this time, and AA just cancel DFW-LHR tonight.
132 lofty : I have worked at BAA airports first at LGW then EDI and now LHR, I have never heard of them shutting the terminals over night. As the guy from the BAA
133 Giancavia : "we just dont get alot of snow" is the crappest excuse ever .. we keep getting snow year after year, We cant even keep our bloody roads open because t
134 Post contains links VV701 : It happens everywhere. Last winter it happened here and flights were cancelled at LHR and LGW. As to the year before that? Sorry. No snow - at least
135 longhauler : That's right. Two years ago, Toronto had a "perfect storm" that caused no end of trouble. 25 cm of snow overnight, then another 80 cms of snow over t
136 GoBoeing : I've always been very impressed with de-ice procedures and snow removal at Canadian airports. Toronto is my favorite. Things don't come to a grinding
137 Schweigend : At IAH today, CO34 to LHR a/c 016, was scheduled to leave at 15:50 and eventually pushed back around 10pm with a full pax load. ETA 12:40 -- they mus
138 CO 757-300 : my new flight today has been cancelled. the twitter states "If you've just logged on - there are no arrivals and only a handful of departures at Heath
139 richcandy : Hi I have just watched BBC News channel and the interviewed someone from BAA. I personally don't think that the guy came across that well. However my
140 Post contains links AA 777 : Looks like CO 34 is heading back to IAH. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...4/history/20101218/2150Z/KIAH/KIAH
141 lxlgu : Looks like diversions to unusual spots for this morning-Sunday BA 012 FROM SINGAPORE-DIVERTED TO ATHENS BA 028 FROM HONG KONG-DIVERTED TO ATHENS CX 25
142 Post contains links and images readytotaxi : A couple of links for you. http://www.heathrowairport.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12030233 Would not want to be at LHR anytime soon. A big thumb
143 AirGabon : What about CDG situation this Sunday morning. All the 4 runways are closed until tomorrow! Any news regarding diversions?
144 Flyingfox27 : I have a few books on Air Disasters volumes 1 2 and 3 and in the earlier ones theres so many snow/ice related crashes that if they were to happen in t
145 kaitak : I'm in Jersey and can't even move my car out of my driveway! The snow sure looks beautiful, but I feel for people who are planning to travel today; I
146 Schweigend : Looks like 016 came back to IAH around 2:30am Central, after making a turnaround somewhere over western Virginia, following the same path back home.
147 KFlyer : So exactly which airports are closed right now ?
148 nasula : Isn't that why de-icing procedures are in place? I believe even the aircraft manufacturers define procedures for flight operations in icing condition
149 Post contains links readytotaxi : Here is a link for you, and Happy Birthday on this your joining day. http://www.charlesdegaulleairport.co.uk/flights/departures/
150 Speedbird2155 : So you are admitting that Toronto, which gets lots of snow every year for months, struggled just 2 years ago, with a "perfect storm". Yet you, and ma
151 mdavies06 : Was there any snowfall overnight in the London area? If not then it has been almost 24 hours since there was any snow fall. The snowfall was only abou
152 david_itl : It's not just the runways that you need to think of. It's taxiway system and the build up of ice - focus on the main ones in use then it's the apron i
153 mdavies06 : An interesting quote from a Bloomberg source: As much as 15 centimeters (six inches) of snow fell in southwest England, forcing the closure of Heathro
154 david_itl : Definitely interesting quote. Not only did the snow fall in relatively large amounts for England, it also moved two airports lock, stock and barrel 1
155 Post contains images btblue : Just a few pics I've had through from a friend. He's flying out in the QF flight to Singapore, finally and luckily. From what he's saying, the whole e
156 AirNZ : What shortcoming, or how exactly is it comparing apples to oranges in giving a scale of an area? Are you perhaps not aware (or ignoring for effect) t
157 nasula : Just an question from one who doesn't know the detail: Do the runways and taxiways normally get de-iced? It seems that in more arctic operations, the
158 747438 : I think it will be an interesting late shift in T3 today.
159 david_itl : LAA102 diverting to MAN. Which makes a change from seeing mainland Europe and Ireland get all the diversions.
160 ltbewr : I know from local news here in NY City that a number of flights from the USA to the UK, Ireland and some mainland Europe airports are either cancelled
161 Post contains images readytotaxi : The QF32 just went over my house outbound, first noise I have heard for ages,couldn't see it,low cloud. At least there is another parking space at LH
162 Post contains images oa260 : Yeah Sky News just showed the QF A380 take off live
163 btblue : Aghhh I missed it! Just saw a bit in on the news as it flew into clouds... He's lucky to get away. Reckon the economy class seat will feel like busine
164 Post contains links readytotaxi : Just took a look at LHR departures,they got three off the ground and VS021 Washington is boarding, after that nothing else it seems is planned to leav
165 david_itl : EK1 is apparently due into MAN today after it ended up at CDG. Flightradar24 showing A6-EDJ UAE3D coming up eastern England. But approaching MAN is SQ
166 oa260 : BAA are not allowing Sky News cameras in to try to cover up the chaos ! The PR guy for BAA is a bit of an idiot when pressed on the exact situation he
167 readytotaxi : WOW, these have just popped up on the departure board for tonight at Heathrow. BA179 NEW YORK 18.00 BA025 HONG KONG 18.40 BA239 BOSTON 19.15 BA059 CAP
168 lhr380 : Good on BAA. We all know the press want juicy stories and people like to exaggerate. People were well looked after in the terminals last night with f
169 oa260 : Whilst people interviewed on the phone and sneaked out mobile footage paints a different story. Did you see the letter handed to passengers by BAA st
170 lhr380 : Ok, your in charge. Get the info to all your people at the same time so the same thing is happening, and get this to ALL the passengers, hotac all th
171 alasdair1982 : XM5233, AA141 to JFK, CX 254 and CX256, BA009 to BKK and SYD and SQ321 are all "scheduled". MH001 is "delayed" until 09:25.
172 oa260 : Id use common sense and plan like two weeks ago when even then the weather was bad! How do you explain other airports in Continental Europe cope with
173 boeing boy : AA 141 to JFK is still cancelled.. so the BAA departure feed isn't accurate.
174 cpqi : There were earlier comments on this thread about snow preparation. Ok, I have no freedom of speech on this matter as I am a Brit living in Brazil 4 de
175 lhr380 : So 2 weeks ago you would plan for 4" of snow to fall in 90 minutes at LHR, something that has not happened before!! Im pretty sure there were a few C
176 oly720man : BA156 / G-VIIG seems to be just about to land at LHR (from flightradar24)
177 Post contains links oa260 : Same excuses year after year you should know ! Tell them to get a PR guru that knows what they are talking about before going on national TV and cont
178 readytotaxi : I would imagine they will close,staff need to go home and sleep ready for the next day,these lounges are not geared to 24 ops, can not see an airline
179 CO 757-300 : i think it is always worth mentioning that BA's website has been down for re-bookings for over 10 hours. as i have been up since 6:45 trying to find o
180 lhr380 : No, they will have closed. Airside in T3 and T5 closes overnight. Only T1 stays open. There would have been no way to keep the lounges open overnight
181 oa260 : In the company where I work if service levels drop they offer staff overtime and incentives to stay on . Same should apply at airports in emergency s
182 Speedbird2155 : Given that BA published and the media clearly reported which flights were operating, I find it hard to believe that people are queuing to find out wh
183 oa260 : Transits ? Its entirely feasable that several hundred transit passengers are stuck at LHR? If you are based in England and you are due to fly then I
184 Post contains links david_itl : Hope VV701 doesn't mind me lifting this out of this thread "Snow only fell in the southeast of England between 1990 and 2002 in 1994. It did not snow
185 lhr380 : In T5 staff were going round with trolleys asking if people wanted food and drink while waiting to be served by staff. Which my airline is doing. But
186 oa260 : is LHR not secure 24/7? Cant see that makes a difference , TBH. Sky News interviewing head of Monarch who has made the comparason between LGW and LHR
187 lhr380 : Did LGW not close for 2 days the other week. Or did I imagine that? Im sure also LGW has 1 runway, and LHR has 2 and is bigger with more stands and g
188 oa260 : And is the interntional gateway and a hub so makes it even more important to be prepared for all weather's even if it only happens once every few yea
189 lhr380 : I give up.. Cant be bothered anymore. Wanting all terminals to stay open airside overnight. HA
190 Post contains images readytotaxi : Is this a site error? Flightradar4.com is showing G-VIIR a gatwick based 777-200 as BA794 to HEL.
191 Auchmithie : BAW4MB is BA2285 LGW-MBJ.
192 btblue : Really? I heard a completely different story from a passenger on the delayed qantas flight. No blanket and Poor communication. If your message is con
193 Flyingfox27 : Looks like it might not be over yet, check out BBC Weather site, shows lots of snow for the South Coast and London area for Monday Afternoon onwards.
194 SKORD : It astounds me that people expect staff in general, who these days in this industry are quite poorly paid,and get few if any perks, to work 24/7 to de
195 lofty : The BAA have asked the British Red Cross to help in the past as a ex Volunteer I have sat around LHR overnight awaiting calls to help. I guess the pr
196 planesailing : I was at LGW for 16 hours yesterday Saturday, through to Sunday. I only work 4 hour shifts. Two of us stayed. Only two. Unfortunately, I was one of o
197 planesailing : I was replying with my comments whilst you wrote this. I could not agree more with your comments. People want their hands held, they want everything
198 Post contains images AirNZ : Why should BAA take notes.....it was the Red Cross who provided the beds, not BRU? I do sympathise with your difficulty, but if you 'understand' the
199 oa260 : Do they not need permission to enter BAA property? Can someone just go in and organise these things? It needs planning and permission. It should be p
200 Giancavia : lmao@comparing these paltry snow falls to natural disasters. Britain needs to step up its game when it comes to dealing with snow.. its as simple as t
201 Candid76 : While this is a particularly severe weather event which rarely happens in the UK, certainly the south of the UK (although it appears that we may have
202 ju068 : At the Larnaca Airport (LCA) there are three Brtish Airways planes, one Boeing 747-400 and two Boeing 777-200 (one has the title 'flying the flag'). C
203 planesailing : I think you are living in a dream land. Everybody these days seems to expect everything to be done for them, it is about time people took some respon
204 mcdu : Heathrow should adopt the slogan. " Either Ash or Snow, Heathrow is a no go" From the photos it doesn't appear to be so bad that ops would be so disru
205 LJ : It's probably the same as with AMS. The Red Cross provides the beds on the request of the airport. In turn the airport facilitates this by providing
206 nasula : I'm just an aviation fan and frequent flyer. Thus I can only base my "knowledge" on observation and deduction. I've seen runways in HEL and ARN with
207 david_itl : Seems there's another pre-arranged diversion tomorrow into MAN: EY017 in from FRA at 0910.
208 Post contains images DanTaylor2006 : I don't usually wade into these threads, but I just had to quote your reply because it is 10000% spot on. Excellent post. Oh and good on you for work
209 CaptainMeeerkat : So just as you are prepared for any eventuality, so too should BAA at one of the world's busiest gateways. I spend six months every year in Russia, a
210 Post contains images btblue : Maybe they should have put their snow tyres on.
211 XXXX10 : It seems a lot of PAX are claiming that they are not getting enough information. There does however seem to be all the information you need on the var
212 CaptainMeeerkat : How many pax stuck at the airport have access to the web?? And if they do, who pays for it?? The airlines are not at fault, the relevant airport auth
213 XXXX10 : Not disputing that, my reply was more about the complaints of lack of information. One of the problems is that whilst the airports are privately owne
214 CaptainMeeerkat : Yes you are right of course, some people indeed have no sense of rationality and logic.
215 Post contains links U2380 : Heathrow are providing free wi-fi at the moment, admittedly you need to have a laptop/phone/etc to be able to access the wi-fi, but it's at least som
216 XXXX10 : Many passenger will have phones with some sort of internet access (GPRS, 3G etc), I would imagine that anyone with a mobile phone would be able to cal
217 planesailing : I see where this thought comes from, but we are talking about an individual being prepared to pass though the conditions, if you transfer the same me
218 XXXX10 : Totally agree I also suspect that when passengers say 'they're not telling us anything' they actually mean 'they're not telling us what we want to he
219 Post contains images CaptainMeeerkat : I agree with you and admire that you have a spirit of 'can do, will do', but you expect the airlines to get their shovels out and start clearing snow
220 XaraB : Small correction; AMS has operated at reduced capacity friday and yesterday (don't know about today, though), but stopped accepting diversions yester
221 cpqi : Well AirNZ an planesailing a lot of comment. Let me preface my comments with two statements: Firstly I have travelled to over 40 countries for my work
222 B777ER : You really need to quit and go somewhere else to work. Your obviously burned out and it shows. Company does not need people like you.
223 tayser : finally got to speak to my parents - apparently QF29 took off from HKG, and 4 hours into the journey to LHR they double backed to HKG. QF have put the
224 vfw614 : Realistically, airline websites are often not particularly helpful. I was booked on a LHR flight on LH for saturday and after having checked various
225 Post contains links readytotaxi : Just as things are slowly improving there is a change of sleet tonight and early morning fog at Heathrow. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/.../se/h
226 Foilcat : from Man airport website, i see these additional flights to HKG from MAN, can anyone confirm the situation there? CX's pax flight returns to MAN Tuesd
227 Candid76 : Both of tonight's CX flights are currently at MAN, they are BHKV and BHXC. There is a rumour of a 773 which may well be CX2252 tomorrow. Flights are o
228 btblue : "all eggs in one basket" indeed. Totally agree with you. This could apply to many of the airlines affected.
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