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NZ 744 Stuck At LHR - Photo's  
User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 26
Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 28516 times:
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A couple of pics of ZK-NBT at LHR just after 11am on Saturday 18th December.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 28184 times:
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What affect is the LHR storms having on B744s schuedules and LAX/HKG flights for tonight and tomorrow?

User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 28005 times:
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Details on the Air NZ website. Tonights flights will leave AKL as scheduled; but may terminate in HKG and LAX if conditions at LHR don't permit landing.

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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5601 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 27815 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 2):
Tonights flights will leave AKL as scheduled; but may terminate in HKG and LAX if conditions at LHR don't permit landing.

Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).

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User currently offlineFiestaFlight From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 27800 times:

No idea the situation now, but I've got co-workers stuck in HKG the past 18 hours. On Facebook he made it sound like at least 1 flight had left for LHR only to return to HKG after the closure occurred. Not sure if it was CX or BA.

They just left the airport for a hotel in Kowloon. Apparently, some carriers had put up passengers into rooms shared with strangers at HKG airport hotel(s). Grim.


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 27687 times:
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Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).

The trains might be still running but based on previous experience from when I lived in Brussels they are also probably pretty much booked out solid , in any case from my understanding operations at CDG, BRU , AMS and FRA are also facing major disruptions .



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User currently offlineyodobashi From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2007, 229 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26580 times:

NZ039 from HKG to LHR yesterday (19th) left HKG on time and diverted to PIK (13:20 local arrival) of all places. To the best of my knowledge, A/C is still parked here!

EDIT: seconds after posting, I heard something 'heavy' take off (20th, 05:22 local), given limited ops at PIK, I can only think it was that repositioning to LHR ....

[Edited 2010-12-19 21:25:40]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19275 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 26429 times:

The irony is that it's SUMMER in Kiwiland!

User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 26349 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).

The trains may be running, but literally EVERYTHING that goes through a city with an airport is booked up until at least christmas. Plus, with the major delays found in continental Europe, there is a strong possibility that these a/c get stuck in FRA, CDG, BRU or AMS for the next week. I know the AF A380 to JFK left with not a seat empty and not one bag onboard, I assume other airlines are facing similar chaos. Adding to that would only bring more misery.



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User currently offlineswiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 26286 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 2):
Details on the Air NZ website. Tonights flights will leave AKL as scheduled; but may terminate in HKG and LAX if conditions at LHR don't permit landing.

Currently sat in the KoruClub and this is still what they are saying. Have been advised we may go to Manchester.


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25683 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
The irony is that it's SUMMER in Kiwiland!

It's supposed to be summer here ...not much evidence of it at the moment Doc .



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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25649 times:

I believe EY is ferrying pax from/to via MAN. EK had one of their LHRs into LGW. There should be one UL 343 stuck at LHR too. And another at FRA, if they had not called it back.


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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25607 times:

I believe one NZ 777 ended up in MAN at some point.

User currently offlineswiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 25542 times:

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 12):
I believe one NZ 777 ended up in MAN at some point.

AFAIK that was yesterdays NZ2


User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 25413 times:
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Quoting swiftski (Reply 13):
AFAIK that was yesterdays NZ2

I thought that NZ 2 was still a 744 , I 'm guessing that it would have been the NZ38/39 HKG service that ended up in MAN if it was a 772 .

[Edited 2010-12-19 22:59:45]


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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 25009 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
Quoting swiftski (Reply 13):
AFAIK that was yesterdays NZ2

I thought that NZ was still a 744 , I 'm guessing that it would have been the NZ38/39 HKG service that ended up in MAN if it was a 772 .

The screens here in HKG show NZ038 as coming in from MAN at 19:00 this evening.


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 24735 times:

Now that LHR is open ( till 1200, with 25 movements per hour ), which of these frames will go out ?


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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6394 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24632 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
The irony is that it's SUMMER in Kiwiland!
Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 10):
It's supposed to be summer here ...not much evidence of it at the moment Doc .

Indeed, less than 200m visibility here right now.. But then again AKL never gets snow so that'll never be a major problem for NZ.



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User currently offlinezkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24179 times:

hopefully everything will start to get back on track today. great Pic's tho just shows people how rubbish English weather is. and ZK-OKG (772) was sent to MAN on the 18 Dec which was the inbound HKG_LHR flight.


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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23644 times:
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Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/20/uk-snow-chaos-continues

...Eurostar was recommending that passengers cancel or postpone their journeys after weather caused a huge backlog over the weekend. More than a thousand travellers, including hundreds of Britons, were stranded at Gare du Nord station in Paris last night after at least eight rail services were cancelled by Eurostar, which switched to a contingency timetable after France was also hit by severe weather....

They may be running , but it doesn''t look as though they can clear their own backlog , let alone clear the backlog of airline pax stranded .



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User currently offlineLHRNUE From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23644 times:

I've just looked out of my office window. Southern runway ist still covered in snow. Northern runway has only limited number of movements. Can not see that LHR is close to normal operation today.

User currently offlinesexyadonis From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23460 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 10):
It's supposed to be summer here ...not much evidence of it at the moment Doc .

.. neither here in SYD! Hahahaha!

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User currently offlineUnclekoru From New Zealand, joined Oct 2009, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23418 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
The irony is that it's SUMMER in Kiwiland!
Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 10):
It's supposed to be summer here ...not much evidence of it at the moment Doc .

Indeed, less than 200m visibility here right now.. But then again AKL never gets snow so that'll never be a major problem for NZ.

Vis was no lower than 3000m today at AKL, still not a great day.

Edit to add that vis reduced to less than 1km as I typed the above message.

Anway back to the topic...  embarrassed 

[Edited 2010-12-20 00:41:56]


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User currently offlineA320boy From UK - England, joined Jun 2010, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22735 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).

Also they don't have crew in these stations, so that means aircraft would be stuck there till crew have had minimum rest, plus whats the logistics involved in say moving 300+ people from LHR to AMS, BRU or FRA in each direction. Plus even if you positioned the crew from LHR to one of these european airports, you cant position and operate such a long sector on same day (Im guessing) and the inbound crews are LHR based so they are on the way home too, they wont be able to operate straight back out as they will be due days off.

So may be operationally sensible to terminate in LAX or HKG. If they are going to divert anywhere, at least an airport in the UK would be a better option (Although PIK is a long coach ride away!)


User currently offlineAI151 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 303 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 21588 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
Why don't NZ (&QF, for that matter) terminate these flights in AMS, BRU, FRA or CDG? At least the pax then have a chance to reach the UK by train, which are still running (according to this mornings news).

I heard that Eurostar don't have any seats left until after Christmas due to the backlog of passengers. I'd try and fly into other airports like MAN or LGW which is near fully operational. The main problem at LHR being that most of the aircrafts are now frozen due to the ice. There's only so much de-icing that can be done at one time.



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25 EGTESkyGod : Just seen the NZ 747 taxiing past on Sky News... departure shortly I think.
26 A320boy : BA have advised its staff that southern runway will now not re open till Wednesday morning, -7 at moment and 15cm snow due tonight, Be prepared for mo
27 Post contains links purplebox : No it's not -7.0 - it's -0.5... http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/heathrow_latest_weather.html[Edited 2010-12-20 06:19:21]
28 777ER : ZK-NBT has just departed LAX enroute to AKL operating NZ6880 It was summer till the Australians sent their rain storms over When flying into AKL last
29 NZ107 : It didn't look perfect from the ground! I couldn't even see the end of my street.
30 777ER : NZ1 from LHR has just landed at LAX Couldn't see anything for the whole flight till we touched down due to the cloud levels. LAX isn't any better also
31 767er : We are having an atrocious summer. Woke up yesterday morning and SYD it was 14c Off to LA tomorrow on NZ102/6 - pelting with rain in LA.
32 777ER : I'm in LAX right now after arriving from AKL. don't expect any better weather because a storm watch has been issued for the next few days
33 ikramerica : Well it's Monsoon season here in Los Angeles. The most rain I've seen here since 2000 or so. 4th day and counting. And this isn't even the BIG storm.
34 ZK-NBT : Good to see NBT at LHR! Hehe. Hopefully the snow clears so all can get home!
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