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Etihad To Upgrade ORD To B77W And Other Changes  
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2989 posts, RR: 25
Posted (4 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 12127 times:

According to the GDS, EY will replace the Daily A345/A346 service with a B77W thus eliminating F class on AUH - ORD from 1st August 2011. A346s seat 286 pax and the B77W will have around 440 passengers.

Other changes include:

* AUH - BOM will get First class from 1st Jan 2011 on a consistent basis with a daily 3 class A332 from 1st Feb 2011

* AUH - DAC will be a mix of B77W and A332 as opposed to daily A332 from IATA S11.

* AUH - NRT will switch from daily A332 to daily A345.

* AUH - PEK - NGO to go from 5 weekly to daily in IATA W11


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 12108 times:

Some people - in the cheap seats perhaps - might suggest that the 77W is a downgrade from the A345/6!  

[Edited 2010-12-21 02:07:15]

So an A346 and an A332 spare in the system - where are they getting the 77W capacity from? What's being downgraded?


[Edited 2010-12-21 02:58:40 by SA7700]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2989 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 11992 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):

So an A346 and an A332 spare in the system - where are they getting the 77W capacity from? What's being downgraded

MNL, MAN I believe.



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 3):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):

So an A346 and an A332 spare in the system - where are they getting the 77W capacity from? What's being downgraded

MNL, MAN I believe.

Interesting - MAN going to A346 or back to A332?



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2989 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 11951 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 4):
Interesting - MAN going to A346 or back to A332?

MAN would go from daily B77W to daily A332 from 1 Aug 2011.



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User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 11921 times:

Interesting. I live in AUH, and mostly envision connecting coach pax from ORD on the nonstop. I have only taken their JFK flight though. I am sure EY does well on ORD. I don't believe any other Persian Gulf carriers fly there. Excuse me, in these parts they say "Arabian Gulf." I can see the need for more coach seats and fewer premium seats.

User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2597 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 11523 times:

The 2011 delivery B77Ws will be 3 class, so F will remain on the ORD route.

User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 11482 times:

When does NRT-AUH switch to the A345?

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 11482 times:

Both seatexpert.com and seatguru.com show a 378-pax config for EY's 77W... is this 440-pax thing new? that must feel like sardine class

you need to pack 3-4-3 in economy with 30" pitch plus some 2-4-2 so-called business class seat in order to have a 2-class config on the 77W


User currently offlineCharlieNoble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 11431 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 1):
Some people - in the cheap seats perhaps - might suggest that the 77W is a downgrade from the A345/6!

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, from the Sardine's perspective.

But I imagine a definite upgrade for the bean counters.


User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1644 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 11378 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 8):
Both seatexpert.com and seatguru.com show a 378-pax config for EY's 77W... is this 440-pax thing new? that must feel like sardine class

you need to pack 3-4-3 in economy with 30" pitch plus some 2-4-2 so-called business class seat in order to have a 2-class config on the 77W

I believe the 378 configured 77W is the three class configuration that Etihad is taking delivery of soon. Though to compensate for the added First Class cabin, the've gone 3-4-3 in Economy. 440 is on the two class bird.



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2989 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 11150 times:

Quoting TR1 (Reply 7):
When does NRT-AUH switch to the A345?

1st August 2011

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 10):
I believe the 378 configured 77W is the three class configuration that Etihad is taking delivery of soon. Though to compensate for the added First Class cabin, the've gone 3-4-3 in Economy. 440 is on the two class bird.

AUH - ORD will be a 2 class operation only.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 11134 times:

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 10):

I believe the 378 configured 77W is the three class configuration that Etihad is taking delivery of soon. Though to compensate for the added First Class cabin, the've gone 3-4-3 in Economy. 440 is on the two class bird.

hmmmm that's a pretty high density if it's 378 for 3-class.... these days most carriers' 744 don't even haev 378 in a 3-class config... the 77W averages 280-320 i think


User currently offlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 613 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 11124 times:
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Quoting ojas (Reply 11):
AUH - ORD will be a 2 class operation only.

Is EY having a hard time filling the premium seats? Their 77Ws only offer 28 seats in Business Class. That's pretty light in terms of premium seating. Any additional insight?


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 10570 times:
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Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 3):
Quoting ojas (Reply 3):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):

So an A346 and an A332 spare in the system - where are they getting the 77W capacity from? What's being downgraded

MNL, MAN I believe.

Interesting - MAN going to A346 or back to A332?

Daily A332 + 5 weekly A346.


Why make a hullaballoo over only the 4th EY lounge only to downgrade the service?


User currently offlinejetblue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9300 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 2):
MNL, MAN I believe.
MNL is now 12x Weekly, all on the 77W, I believe. It used to be 77W + A332

AUH-MNL

EY 424 0240 B77W M-T-W-F-SUN
EY 428 1015 B77W DAILY

---------------------

MNL-AUH

EY 421 0115 B77W DAILY
EY 423 1910 B77W M-T-W-F-SUN

[Edited 2010-12-21 16:41:28]

[Edited 2010-12-21 16:42:07]


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User currently offlinessides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9291 times:

Quoting AABB777 (Reply 13):
Is EY having a hard time filling the premium seats? Their 77Ws only offer 28 seats in Business Class. That's pretty light in terms of premium seating. Any additional insight?

Probably so. Business O&D from Chicago to Abu Dhabi is likely pretty light. This isn't IAH-DXB, where the front cabins go out full twice a day. This flight is clearly geared toward connecting pax, most likely VFR to the subcontinent and southeast Asia.



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User currently offlineThunderB From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9203 times:

You probably will see some of the 77W being used by VAustralia in the near future, on behalf of EY. This will augment their new alliance...

User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 week ago) and read 9156 times:

While I do like the the sight of a 77W over the A34X, it is too bad they cut the F. I was wanting to take a flight on the ORD-AUH route, but with 10 across Y, might not want that. 440 also on a 77W seems a bit cramped for my style, might need to find a reason to go out there before August.

User currently offlinektachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1811 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8657 times:

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
AUH - NRT will switch from daily A332 to daily A345

This route is currently operated 5x weekly. So will it receive an upgrade and increase in frequencies or either or?

AUH-PEK-NGO to daily? That would be wonderful news for us on the NGO side!!! I hear its currently hard for pax to get seats on these flights because there are many pax flying PEK-AUH.



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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8577 times:

378 is the two class 77W. Three class config will have lower seats than that.
If EY did seat 440 on two class, you'll bet that EK would have done that. Even EK manages only 364 pax in the three class 77W.



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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8130 times:
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Quoting KFlyer (Reply 20):
If EY did seat 440 on two class, you'll bet that EK would have done that.

EK do 426 and 442 seat versions of 2 class 77W. EY's MAN ops are on the 440 seat 77W (several services have had over 400 passengers on board)


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

David, sorry my bad. Should've checked before posting. I thought the EK 77W was limited to 424. But nevertheless, a 400+ pax 77W likely cannot make UAE-ORD anyway.


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User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 725 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Etihad's B77W's have been reconfigured to 412 from 378 so no idea where a 440 number has come from.

Next years 2 new B77W will be 2 class and 412 configuration.

B77W to Chicago is NOT confirmed even though it may appear in some system. During the winter the B77W could comfortably fly AUH-ORD but if the flight is not re-timed from what it is now then the flight will have problems in the UAE summer.

The B77W is scheduled to continue to MAN in the northern 2011 summer schedule.

Even now the 2011 summer schedule has not been finalised so nothing is written in stone yet,



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User currently offlineparapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1664 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7630 times:

Bit off topic but there does seem to be a movement to "packing 'em in". Those who are suggesting that the next 77W revamp will have thinner walls so that 10 across can be accomodated with "standard" 17 something" seats may well be on to something. Looks like the future for poor old (like me) "Y" class! Certainly will (in general) be the same (9 across) for the 787 too. This is not really (10 across) a trick that the 350 can play interestingly enough.(well can with 16" seats- But !!)

25 KFlyer : Ejazz, could you please share the details of the new config with us ? Can't see it at any of the seat map sites.
26 Post contains links ojas : Sorry for the confusion. The new configuration of EY's B77W is 412 seats (28/384) http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/e...perienceetihad/Pages/OurFlee
27 airlinefreak1 : Thanks for the info guys That's great news that MAN might go 12 weekly ! Any idea about the timings of the second flight. ? Loads to MAN must be doing
28 LondonCity : KL's 77Ws accommodate 425 pax in a two-class layout (including Economy Comfort as the seating here is also 3-4-3 with the same legroom as Y).
29 david_itl : Got it wrong. Its on the MAN website in the timetables now: From 1st August: EY15/16 operates Mon, Tues, Wed, Fri, Sun. Arr = 0615 dept 0925. This is
30 Viscount724 : [/quote] Not the same legroom. Economy Comfort seats are 34 inch pitch, 3 inches more than the 31 inch pitch in the rest of the Y cabin. The whole poi
31 GlobalCabotage : ORD-AUH gets a ton of low yielding traffic to the sub-continent area. 77W makes sense for this route, but as mentioned above, how will this work in AU
32 ojas : Typo over here, it is 5 weekly and not daily.
33 777way : EY Cargo have launched freighter service to Kochi, India.
34 TurkishWings : EY's AUH-IST flights are showing A 330-200 as of end of April.. Can anyone confirm? Is this change seasonal?
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