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New Airplanes We Waited For In 1998  
User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9971 times:

A couple of years ago I started a thread on airplanes we waited for in 2000.

New Airplanes We Were Waiting For In 2000 (by OyKIE Jul 31 2008 in Civil Aviation)

Since I became a member here at Airliners, I am close to 2000 posts and its soon time for the Christmas holiday, so I thought I should celebrate this with a new thread on planes we waited for in 1998.

What did the world look like in 1998, and what kind of new airplanes were offered to airlines? What kind of planes happened and what kind of planes never took off?

This was the year after Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas. Boeing announced that the MD-80 and MD-90 production would end its production after completing unfilled orders.


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The MD-11 was first announced to continue production, but in June 1998 the MD-11 was cancelled as well.


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Regional Jets ruled, and everybody who was anybody wanted a regional jet.

Sales were good this year, and breaking many sales record.

Here is my list of some of the planes that I remember. Feel free to make contributions:

AASI Jetcruzer 500
This plane was supposed to be a high speed low cost airplane, with speeds up to 318kts. At late 1998 more than 150 airplanes were sold. Problems with the airplanes noise, high stall speed and center of gravity supposedly killed the airplane.


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AEA Explorer
In 1998 the AEA Explorer 350R flew for the first time. The plane was designed to fill the gap between the Cessna 206 and Cessna Caravan. The Australian airplane is still in production as the Explorer 500. Other than that I have not been able to find out much more.

Airbus

A318
The A318 was launched at the Farnbough airshow 1998. The A318 had until then been known as the A319M5 as it was 5 fuselage frames shorter than the A319. The AE317 and AE316 that was a conjuction between Airbus AVIC of China and Singapore Technologies was terminated shortly after. The PW6000 was being developed and offered promising performance for the A318.


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A319CJ
Airbus rolled out the A319 corporate jetliner in 1998. Range with 10 passengers were 6300Nm. Airbus highlighted the A319CJ benefit compared to the BBJ in that the plane was a minimum change development that could easily be converted to a jetliner.


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A330-200
The A330-200 was certified in 1998, and was designed to replace the A300-600R as well as competing against the 767-300ER.


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A330 1998 rumors
Prior to the A330-200 launch in 1995 Airbus was looking into a further stretch (The A330-400) as well as an even shorter A330-100.

A340-8000
The A340-800 was an 8000 Nautical mile A340-200 with 275 tons MTOW. Only one was built in 1998.


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A340-500&600
The promising Next generation A340-500 and -600 was launched in 1997. The A340-600 would give Airbus an early 747 replacement and near 747-400 competitor. Airbus claimed the A340-600 would offer better economics than the 747-400 pr seat. 20% better fuel burn and 13% better direct operating cost. The A340-500 with a design range of 8500Nautical mile would be the world’s longest ranging airplane.


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A340ST Mega Transporter
In 1998 Airbus looked into the possibility to make an A340 Mega transporter to carry A3XX components.

A3XX
The most ambitious aircraft was the all new A3XX ( later known as the A380) that had been under development work since 1994. Airbus was hoping for a launch customer soon.


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Ayres LM200 Loadmaster was a uniqe twin engine utility transport designed after specifications from FedEx. The Loadmaster would be around 20 meters and carry 4 LD3 containers and a load of 4 tonne. The Load Master would have a range or 1630Nm. What happened to this plane I do not know. But it never took to the skies.

BAE
The early success of the RJ70,85 and 100 made BAE seriously considering further improvements the the 146/RJ line.


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Boeing

The MD-95 was re-launched as the 717-200. At the time Boeing said the marked for 100 seaters was very promising. The 717 was to enter service in 1999.


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The shorter 80 seat 717-100 as well as the 120 seat 717-300 was under study.

737NG
1998 marked the start of a new era of 737. With the 737-700 certified in November 1997, the 737-600 and 737-800 followed closely. Already in 1998 the 737-800 was the highest selling member of the NG 737 with the 737-700 following closely. The original 737-900 was launched back in 1997 with an order from launch customer Alaska.


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BBJ
The first Boeing Business Jet rolled out in 1998. Boeing had plans to offer the BBJ with winglets developed by aviation partners. The early 737-800 tests showed positive performance improvement.


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747

With the 747-500X and -600X dropped the year before Boeing in 1998 was looking at a more modest development with a stretched 80 meter 747. The new version could be launched in 199 Boeing believes. As I noted in my earlier thread the new iteration would be known as the 747X and 747X stretch.


757-300
It would take 19 years from Boeing launched the original 757 until Boeing flew the first major change in the 757-300. First flight was in August 1998. With 40% more cargo and 20% more seats than the 757-200 this version offered very good CASM. In fact 10% lower seat/mile cost compared to the original 757. It also introduced a new interior based on the 737NG.


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767-200ER
Nothing really happened except that Continental ordered some. Prior to this order the last 767-200ER was delivered in 1994.


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767-400ER
Launched in 1997 with engineering help from the, then independent MDC. The 767-400ER introduced wheels, tyres and brakes from the 777 as well as cockpit displays. The raked wingtip was also first introduced on this airplane.


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777-200X study
Boeing’s initially offered a 777-100Xthat was supposed to have a 8635Nmrange. This was dropped, and Boeing started the 777-200X study. It would keep the 777-200 fuselage length, but with a 8500Nm range. This would later turn into the 777-200LR


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777-300
The original 777 was meant to replace early 747 airplanes. Compared to early 747, the 777-300 burns 1/3 less fuel and 40% lower maintenance cost. The 777-300 entered service in 1998.


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777-300X
With the 777-200X study, Boeing also studied the 777-300X. The range would grow from initial 5720Nm to more than 6400Nm. The 777-300X evolved into the 777-300ER


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Bombardier

BRJ-X
Bombardier BRJX, or "Bombardier Regional Jet eXpansion" was projected as a plane for 80-120 passenger. The plane was supposed to have 2+3 seating and aimed at being a DC-9 replacement. The BRJ-X program was shelved and later turned into the CSeries.

CRJ-700
Production of the CRJ-700 started in late 1998. BBD raised the windows 12CM, the floor I lowered to give more headroom.


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Q400
The Q400 first flew in 1998. Even though the Regional jets were king at the time, Bombardier insisted that fast turbo props and regional jets fulfilled each other. The Q400 was designed to break even with just 29 passengers. The q for quiet introduced more comfort and reduces noise.


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Embraer

ERJ-135
The Embraer 135 first flew in 1998 and was an easy shrink from the Embraer 145. Few other airplane had sold as good as the ERJ-135 prior to EIS.


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Fairchild

328Jet
The 328Jet first flight was in 1998, and the prototype was based on the second 328 turboprop. The business case for regional jets seemed very good in 1998. A corporate jet version, the Envoy 3 was also being offered.


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428Jet
Also on the drawing board was a stretch of the beautiful 328Jet. This name was to reflect the seating capacity of 32-44 passenger. Up ten seats from the 328Jet.

528Jet, 728Jet and 928Jet
In 1998 Fairchild launched a very promising design that was named the 528JET, 728Jet and 928Jet. These airplanes would have covered a seat range from 55 passengers up to 95 seats. With comfortable 5 across seating the initial sales was very strong.


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End note

As you can see 1998 gave us a glimpse of the future. Many designs that are state of the art today (In service), like the A330-200/300, A340-500/600, A380-800 and 777-200LR/300ER, was on the drawing board in 1998. But not everything turned out as we expected. It will be interesting to look back at 2010 in 2020-25.


Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
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User currently offlinetsugambler From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9849 times:

Nice thread! It's interesting to look back at things from before I was interested in the world of aviation.

User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9797 times:

Great thread! Wow...I remember the Jetcruzer...that thing was so heavily marketed.

One I'll add is the Cirrus SR-20/22, an airplane certified in 1998 that would stand to revolutionize general aviation in a few years with a mainstream composite construction and glass cockpit.


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[Edited 2010-12-21 09:09:51]


I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9139 times:

Quoting tsugambler (Reply 1):
Nice thread! It's interesting to look back at things from before I was interested in the world of aviation.

Thank you! I find it always interesting to read historical articles about what was expected and branded.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 2):
One I'll add is the Cirrus SR-20/22, an airplane certified in 1998 that would stand to revolutionize general aviation in a few years with a mainstream composite construction and glass cockpit.

Thank you for adding the Cirrus. That plane should really have been mentioned. I had it in my raw drawing, but it slipped. I still see the Cirrus as a revolutionary airplane, and it is already 12 years  



Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8557 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter):
A340ST Mega Transporter
In 1998 Airbus looked into the possibility to make an A340 Mega transporter to carry A3XX components.

There have been several iterations of the Mega Transporter from time to time.But since the A380 entered service, there have been no news. Do any Airbus insiders know if there are still planes to fly the A380 parts into Toulouse?




Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 8116 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter):
Ayres LM200 Loadmaster was a uniqe twin engine utility transport designed after specifications from FedEx. The Loadmaster would be around 20 meters and carry 4 LD3 containers and a load of 4 tonne. The Load Master would have a range or 1630Nm. What happened to this plane I do not know. But it never took to the skies.

Ayres filed for CH. 11 in 2001 and its' assets were picked up by Thrush Aircraft, who only intended to continue to manufacture the Thrush line of agricultural a/c. The Loadmaster was canceled around that time.

It wasn't a twin-engine a/c in the standard sense, as the two engines were going to power a single prop.

[Edited 2010-12-23 14:13:04]

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4516 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8017 times:

This is one of the best threads I've seen in a long time. Thank you for posting it.

I remember the Fairchild Dornier 728 Jet! Oh man, I can't believe that never got off the ground. I remember being so excited for that plane back then. At least we have the Embraer 170 family which has similar looks.

As for the 757-300, I remember back then being very happy to see a new model of the 757 being offered. In 1998 I was heavily into nostalgic aviation books and airlines of the past, and was literally in love with the 727 and 757 aircraft. I didn't want to see 757 production end anytime soon.

At the time, the 753 was considered the most efficient airliner ever built. I had hoped that this would translate into many orders for at least a decade to come. Alas, that did not happen. To this day, when I hear anyone mention 757 "fleet replacement" I cringe. It's hard enough seeing 727s getting broken up in the desert, let alone adding my other favourite plane to that sad sight.

1998 was surely an exciting year. That was also the year that I bought a flight simulator for the very first time, and the year that I joined Airliners.net under my original username. (I changed accounts in 2003). Great memories!


Here is my contribution, although small:

In 1998 I first picked up an issue of FLYING Magazine, which described this new plane from Hawker called the Hawker Horizon. Much, much later, it became the Hawker 4000. But the Hawker Horizon, with its beautiful looks, captured my interest in business jets for the very first time. I cut out images of the Hawker Horizon and stuck them on my wall. I still have those images to this day.

Hawker Horizon c.1998



Hawker 4000


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User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7863 times:

We were waiting for the A320 NEO with those amazing efficient Pratt & Whitney's PW8000 geared turbofans.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ans-pw8000-first-run-for-1999.html

and Boeing is going to use the GP7000 engines for 747 stretches and a beefed up 767.

Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter):
777-200X study

Yes, maybe it was going to have an APTU, a kind of 2.2 engined aircraft..



User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7125 times:

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 6):
Here is my contribution, although small:

Not at all! Thank you. A very nice plane.I would imagine more planes had been built if it was not for the financial crisis?

Quoting keesje (Reply 7):
those amazing efficient Pratt & Whitney's PW8000 geared turbofans.

I remember them. Hard to believe that it has been 12 years already. The A318 with PW6000 problems might have delayed PW's breakthrough?



Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
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